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#1 mig_killer2
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here in america, we care more about paris hilton or anna nicole smith than iraq and darfur

your thoughts

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#2 Kikouken
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ok, that's sad.
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#3 AlexKidd5000
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i dont watch the news and dont give a crap about celebrities.
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#4 _Margulis_
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here in america, we care more about paris hilton or anna nicole smith than iraq and darfur

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#5 ArmoredAshes
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no kidding? Alot of people are also willing to trade freedom for security...but what else is new.
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#6 mig_killer2
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[QUOTE="mig_killer2"]

here in america, we care more about paris hilton or anna nicole smith than iraq and darfur

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_Margulis_

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most people in america
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[QUOTE="mig_killer2"]

here in america, we care more about paris hilton or anna nicole smith than iraq and darfur

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He is talking about himself but doesn't want to be alone.

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#8 GettingTired
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Speak for yourself.

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#9 skullkrusher13
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[QUOTE="mig_killer2"]

here in america, we care more about paris hilton or anna nicole smith than iraq and darfur

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women ages 12-66

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#10 LJS9502_basic
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That's not true....
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#11 Yagami-Iori
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All I have to say on this... the meek have inherited the Earth.... and they're apparently stupid also.
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#12 DeLurk
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That's the media for you..
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#13 deactivated-59d151f079814
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He is talking about our media.
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#14 Travo_basic
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sad, but true
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#15 deactivated-583e5f64e0a7e
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That's a vast generalization, and completely false.
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#16 emagdnim_7
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I'm not surprised. Although, I am curious about where you got your information. Was it from a poll or just a general observation.
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#17 MichaeltheCM
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yeah thats pretty freaking sad. its b/c we have generally a stupid (uneducated or very poor education) population (im an American btw)
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#18 r11011b
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I'm an American, and the last thing on Earth I care about are these so-called celebrities.
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yeah thats pretty freaking sad. its b/c we have generally a stupid (uneducated or very poor education) population (im an American btw)MichaeltheCM

Apparently since he made a baseless assumption and people are agreeing with him....

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#20 brainiac24
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I flip on the TV and browse the news networks everyday. CNN? Please. No one cares about Paris Hilton and some wrestler dude that killed his family then killed himself. Fox? Even worse. The extreme right-wingers are pathetic. I watch O'Reilly just to laugh at him. MSNBC? More of the same. The only good news network I've watched is BBC news, and they're British. If you really want to know about what happens in the Middle East, watch the English Al Jazeera. Nevermind, the CIA will watch you if you subscribe.

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Like someone said above, speak for yourself.
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That's a vast generalization, and completely false.LukeAF24

If it was false, then there should be strikes everywhere asking to end war.

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#23 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LukeAF24"]That's a vast generalization, and completely false.marcocat

If it was false, then there should be strikes everywhere asking to end war.

In keeping with the topic....that doesn't necessarily follow. It's a flawed conclusion.

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#24 EboyLOL
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I don't ever recall fitting into this category :(

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[QUOTE="LukeAF24"]That's a vast generalization, and completely false.marcocat

If it was false, then there should be strikes everywhere asking to end war.

Some people support the war you know.

And I don't think Congress really cares about protesters..

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American universities are considered the best in the world. The rest of the world has good schools too, but not as many. (Cambridge,Oxford,Tokyo)
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[QUOTE="MichaeltheCM"]yeah thats pretty freaking sad. its b/c we have generally a stupid (uneducated or very poor education) population (im an American btw)LJS9502_basic

Apparently since he made a baseless assumption and people are agreeing with him....

Gernerally speaking, yes, Americans care more about what the latest celebrity scandle is than who won the French prime minister elections or other major world news. If you need proof just turn on the news. You're likely to see something along the lines of:

"In other news the death toll in Darfur has risen to X. Now stay tuned for more coverage about who Anna Nicole Smith's baby daddy is, including an interview with some of her friends about who they think it might be, after commercial break!"

Or did you think that nothing happened elsewhere in the world during the month the press spent covering the Paris Hilton prison debacle?

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My point is Americans generally aren't stupid. However, I do believe that U.S. media is manipulative.
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#29 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="MichaeltheCM"]yeah thats pretty freaking sad. its b/c we have generally a stupid (uneducated or very poor education) population (im an American btw)gameguy6700

Apparently since he made a baseless assumption and people are agreeing with him....

Gernerally speaking, yes, Americans care more about what the latest celebrity scandle is than who won the French prime minister elections or other major world news. If you need proof just turn on the news. You're likely to see something along the lines of:

"In other news the death toll in Darfur has risen to X. Now stay tuned for more coverage about who Anna Nicole Smith's baby daddy is, including an interview with some of her friends about who they think it might be, after commercial break!"

Or did you think that nothing happened elsewhere in the world during the month the press spent covering the Paris Hilton prison debacle?

Again...generalizations never fit. I don't care about celebrities...my family doesn't....my friends don't...my coworkers don't. Who are these people that only care about celebrities? Facts not opinion.....

As for the news...they put that crap on to fill time. The important news is still reported. With 24 hour news channels now I'd imagine it's a job to keep finding different spins on events.

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#30 Watch_Me_Xplode
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That's what's so great about this country. :P
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#31 mig_killer2
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[QUOTE="gameguy6700"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="MichaeltheCM"]yeah thats pretty freaking sad. its b/c we have generally a stupid (uneducated or very poor education) population (im an American btw)LJS9502_basic

Apparently since he made a baseless assumption and people are agreeing with him....

Gernerally speaking, yes, Americans care more about what the latest celebrity scandle is than who won the French prime minister elections or other major world news. If you need proof just turn on the news. You're likely to see something along the lines of:

"In other news the death toll in Darfur has risen to X. Now stay tuned for more coverage about who Anna Nicole Smith's baby daddy is, including an interview with some of her friends about who they think it might be, after commercial break!"

Or did you think that nothing happened elsewhere in the world during the month the press spent covering the Paris Hilton prison debacle?

Again...generalizations never fit. I don't care about celebrities...my family doesn't....my friends don't...my coworkers don't. Who are these people that only care about celebrities? Facts not opinion.....

As for the news...they put that crap on to fill time. The important news is still reported. With 24 hour news channels now I'd imagine it's a job to keep finding different spins on events.

just turn on the news. during the anna nicole smith thingy, you heard nothing about the war in iraq.

Michael moore who was supposed to talk to larry king about the healthcare issue got bumped for some rich spoiled white girl who went to prison for violating the terms of her probation

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#32 wavebrid
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i kow.. i agree this is so amazing ;) sad place to leave really...
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#33 _Margulis_
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[QUOTE="marcocat"]

[QUOTE="LukeAF24"]That's a vast generalization, and completely false.LJS9502_basic

If it was false, then there should be strikes everywhere asking to end war.

In keeping with the topic....that doesn't necessarily follow. It's a flawed conclusion.

You're a flawed conclusion. :|

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#34 MuSiC-pLaYeR
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Because alot of stuff going on in Iraq is held information. My bother tells me alot of stories about his friends in Iraq and I never hear some of the stuff on television.
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#35 mig_killer2
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Because alot of stuff going on in Iraq is held information. My bother tells me alot of stories about his friends in Iraq and I never hear some of the stuff on television.MuSiC-pLaYeR
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#36 ConManWithGun
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wrong, only the media cares more, since we reporters are all tired about hearing about people dying we have to spice it up and get more ratings, which means talking about that crap since thats what our audience apparently wants to hear, but no one really cares more
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#37 Godly_Cure
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Never noticed and I don't believe it.
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#38 MuSiC-pLaYeR
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Actually my whole family doesent want war to end. Think about it if we take ourselves out of the war then all those people who died, died for no reason. Iran will take over Iraq and we had people die for no reason. We need to get done what we went in there to do. I dont care if we drop a nuke we cant let our soldier die in vein.
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[QUOTE="gameguy6700"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="MichaeltheCM"]yeah thats pretty freaking sad. its b/c we have generally a stupid (uneducated or very poor education) population (im an American btw)LJS9502_basic

Apparently since he made a baseless assumption and people are agreeing with him....

Gernerally speaking, yes, Americans care more about what the latest celebrity scandle is than who won the French prime minister elections or other major world news. If you need proof just turn on the news. You're likely to see something along the lines of:

"In other news the death toll in Darfur has risen to X. Now stay tuned for more coverage about who Anna Nicole Smith's baby daddy is, including an interview with some of her friends about who they think it might be, after commercial break!"

Or did you think that nothing happened elsewhere in the world during the month the press spent covering the Paris Hilton prison debacle?

Again...generalizations never fit. I don't care about celebrities...my family doesn't....my friends don't...my coworkers don't. Who are these people that only care about celebrities? Facts not opinion.....

As for the news...they put that crap on to fill time. The important news is still reported. With 24 hour news channels now I'd imagine it's a job to keep finding different spins on events.

Hence the reason I said "generally speaking" (as in "on average", not "always"). Like I said, if you want proof that most Americans care more about celebreties than real news, just turn on the news. The thing about the news is that they put on what they know will get ratings. Darfur doesn't get good ratings. Paris Hilton going to jail does. Like I said in my example, while the important news is still reported on, the air time it gets is completely out of proportion to the coverage that celebrity scandles get.

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#40 LJS9502_basic
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You're a flawed conclusion. :|

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#41 LJS9502_basic
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Hence the reason I said "generally speaking" (as in "on average", not "always"). Like I said, if you want proof that most Americans care more about celebreties than real news, just turn on the news. The thing about the news is that they put on what they know will get ratings. Darfur doesn't get good ratings. Paris Hilton going to jail does. Like I said in my example, while the important news is still reported on, the air time it gets is completely out of proportion to the coverage that celebrity scandles get.

gameguy6700

You didn't read my entire topic....and no...MOST do not. Those who like obsess about celebrity are actually the minority.

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#42 inyourface_12
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thats the people who pay attention to the media. its called cnn. watch it sometime
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#43 MuSiC-pLaYeR
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Yo basic I agree with you on everthing these people just dont get it.
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#44 TheJustin
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here in america, we care more about paris hilton or anna nicole smith than iraq and darfur

your thoughts

mig_killer2


Speak for yourself.
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#45 dissonantblack
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that is so true. i've always wondered why.
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#46 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Well in a way he is right, these stations are like every other where they care about ratings.. And it seems showing the big huge sex scandels, celebs and other things is bringing inthose rattings the most.
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I wonder if Al-Jezeera does the same thing

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[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]

Hence the reason I said "generally speaking" (as in "on average", not "always"). Like I said, if you want proof that most Americans care more about celebreties than real news, just turn on the news. The thing about the news is that they put on what they know will get ratings. Darfur doesn't get good ratings. Paris Hilton going to jail does. Like I said in my example, while the important news is still reported on, the air time it gets is completely out of proportion to the coverage that celebrity scandles get.

LJS9502_basic

You didn't read my entire topic....and no...MOST do not. Those who like obsess about celebrity are actually the minority.

What topic? I read your post if that's what you meant. And the only proof there I saw that you offfered that most Americans don't care about celebrities was your anecdotal evidence where you cite co-workers, family, and friends. Let me repeat myself, but this time more clearly:

News stations like CNN and Fox News are businesses. They sell news. Like all businesses they obey the laws of supply and demand, because if they didn't they'd be out of business. For that reason, they only air what people will watch, since that's the only way they can get money. Thus, the fact that they're willling to devote almost their entire broadcast schedule to Paris Hilton going to jail says something about America (their market). While yes, there is a sizeable portion of Americans who don't care about celebrities, the fact of the matter is that most do. If most Americans cared about international news more than celebrities, then guess what (think back to your economics classes)? They'd fill the air time with international news. To really force this concept home, let's take another example: If most Americans cared more about farming than other news, then CNN would air lots of coverage about the latest problems facing the farming industry, harvest numbers, and crop prices.

In contrast look at European news outlets. There's barely any reproting on celeb news at all. Why? Europeans care more about real news. To illustrate my point just go to bbc.co.uk and cnn.com. Right now the headlines on the sites include:

CNN:

NFL star indicted over dogfighting
Probe: Benoit's son 'sedated' when killed
Victoria Beckham show ripped, barely watched
How Jim Morrison really died


BBC:

Bomber targets Pakistan lawyers
Russia warns UK over expulsions
Nuclear safety fears after quake
Poison threat from Ukraine train
Al-Qaeda 'stepping up US efforts'
US wants fresh Iran talks on Iraq

To give CNN some credit though at least both they and the BBC have the same top story (A jet crash in brazil killing roughly 200)

EDIT:

Ok I lied. Actually CNN's top story just changed to: "The estranged husband of a singer shot to death on stage last weekend has been found with a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head, police say."

Like I said. America cares more about celebrities.

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Thats pretty much accurate.
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#50 _Margulis_
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[QUOTE="_Margulis_"]

You're a flawed conclusion. :|

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Wonderful skills...you must be on the debate team.

I was asked to join by the leader of Debate, but I turned down the offer.