I do really well in math b so far btw. but not so good at writing essays.
i have trouble thinking of ideas or generating them then putting it on paper. how do you know how make your ideas flow or what to write about on paper?
Writing essays?
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I do really well in math b so far btw. but not so good at writing essays.
i have trouble thinking of ideas or generating them then putting it on paper. how do you know how make your ideas flow or what to write about on paper?
realistic44
It's simple, each paragraph is its own idea. Just type and B.S. your way through it and you'll end up with a great essay.
Intro (hypothesis)
contention 1 (idea #1)
contention 2
contention 3
conclusion
done!
[QUOTE="realistic44"]I do really well in math b so far btw. but not so good at writing essays.
i have trouble thinking of ideas or generating them then putting it on paper. how do you know how make your ideas flow or what to write about on paper?
Hot-Tamale
It's simple, each paragraph is its own idea. Just type and B.S. your way through it and you'll end up with a great essay.
Intro (hypothesis)
contention 1 (idea #1)
contention 2
contention 3
conclusion
done!
Pretty much this. Each idea is one paragraph, and an easy way to organize a paragraph is like so: -Announce your idea -Explain it -Give an examplelol at my school i take "advanced" english and when i hav an assignment i do it in the last 4 days and always get A's
id write your paper for 200 dollars
Never start writing an essay without an outline.Paladin_KingI usually skip that step...
[QUOTE="Hot-Tamale"][QUOTE="realistic44"]I do really well in math b so far btw. but not so good at writing essays.
i have trouble thinking of ideas or generating them then putting it on paper. how do you know how make your ideas flow or what to write about on paper?
Mochyc
It's simple, each paragraph is its own idea. Just type and B.S. your way through it and you'll end up with a great essay.
Intro (hypothesis)
contention 1 (idea #1)
contention 2
contention 3
conclusion
done!
Pretty much this. Each idea is one paragraph, and an easy way to organize a paragraph is like so: -Announce your idea -Explain it -Give an example You should explain your example too and say how it supports your ideaone other thing. Many people/teachers/whatever give this ridiculous construct of the "five paragraph essay." One intro, one conclusion, and three paragraphs in between. This is total nonsense that needs to be stopped right now, asap.Paladin_KingTrue it is pointless, no pioint limiting the amount of paragraphs between the intro and conclusion ,basically it should be.
- Intro
- Contentions
- Conclusion
.
Or in some cases
-intro
-For
-Against
-Conclusion
[QUOTE="Paladin_King"]Never start writing an essay without an outline.muthsera666I usually skip that step... If you haven't had your ass handed to you yet, you will eventually. And if you never do, something is seriously wrong with whatever institutions you pursued your education at.
Never start writing an essay without an outline. First thing is to figure out what exactly you're arguing. For example, if you were writing an essay on Frankenstein, maybe the point you're going to try to prove through your essay is that Victor Frankenstein dislikes heterosexual relationships. First point in your outline then, is your introduction "Thesis: Victor Frankenstein dislikes heterosexual relationships." The first thing to do on your outline is to summarize your main point in one or two sentences, max. Nothing too general, yet nothing too complicated. Keep this at the top of your outline. This is what every paragraph should try to prove or discuss. That's point one on your outline and is what you'll state in your first paragraph, or "introduction." After that, plan out what to say in each following paragraph, "the body paragraph." Thesis/Introduction: Victor Frankenstein Dislikes Women Essay 1: Victor Frankenstein's dead mother and the lack of mothers in the book. Mothers as evidence of heterosexual sex/relationships Paragraph 2: Victor and the monster work together to kill off the women of the text Paragraph 3: The creation of the monster = pro-creative sex between two men...removing the biological role of women Paragraph 4 etc, until you've gone through each of your points/paragraphs After that's done, map out your conclusion. The thing about conclusion paragraphs is that high school teachers will generally tell you that a conclusion paragraph is just repeating what you said in your introduction. THIS IS UTTERLY WRONG. The first sentence in the conclusion CAN and maybe should be a repetition of your thesis statement, but the conclusion should be open ended. It should bring in larger issues related to your essay's argument that leave room for future discussion. For instance, keeping with the Frankenstein issue, maybe a conclusion would be to speculate why Victor doesn't like heterosexual relationshpis, or why Mary Shelley wrote this book this way. You don't have to prove anything in a conclusion...just bring up new areas to be discussed that are linked to your essay, bring up issues that your essay's argument ultimately suggests or leads to. That's the key to a great conclusion and a great conclusion can raise your mark on an essay substantially. But yeah, it's all in the planning. By the time you type the first word of your essay, half if not more of your mark has already been decided based upon your planning, preparation, and ideas.Paladin_King
Amazing. For English I have to write an essay based on the quote: "Don't ever tell anybody anything, or you'll start to miss everybody" said by Holden Caulfield in the Catcher and the Rye. You've helped heaps, I'm actually going to write some of that down in my note taking book :D. Now I just have to think of the points I'm going to make...
This is what I learned about essays. Have a fantastic beginning, a medicore middle, and a mind-blowing ending. You got to draw them in with that first paragraph. Your kinda like a caveman hunting for the perfect woman. You just got to wait and make sure you have a club big enough to knock them out the first time. Then you get to your ending and they'll be so blown away that they'll forgive you for the crappy middle paragraphs.Wilfred_OwenDepends who you're writing for. If your marker has the attention span of a chimp on crack, you're definitely right. Your intro says what you believe The middle or "body" is a place for you to prove and substantiate what you believe the conclusion is basically a place for you to show off and say "look what i just did! wasn't that cool!" and "now that i've done this, we can look at all these things in new ways!" Such a conclusion is impossible if you essentially did NOTHING and opened up NOTHING. The body paragraphs are where you prove your argument. I can say in my intro paragraph "my thesis is that every person was actually born from the rectum of a purple pig with green dragon wings, but centuries worth of illuminati shadow governments have keepen this all hidden!" Wow what a hook....but i won't back it up or prove it at all....but hey, my conclusion will rock! Conclusions only truly rock if they're a culmination of everything that came before, if not in content, in energy and focus. Any conclusion with this culmination effect will beat the crap out of any "mind-blowing ending." You're writing an essay, not an M. Night Shyamalan film.
Amazing. For English I have to write an essay based on the quote: "Don't ever tell anybody anything, or you'll start to miss everybody" said by Holden Caulfield in the Catcher and the Rye. You've helped heaps, I'm actually going to write some of that down in my note taking book :D. Now I just have to think of the points I'm going to make...dylanmcc
Hey, no problem man. I'm actually a graduate student in English lit, which is where my snobbery comes from. If you have any problems/questions with your essay, feel free to PM me. I'll try to help (provided i'm awake...i'm in the UK, timezones and such). It's been many years since i read Catcher in the Rye, but i may still be able to offer some assistance :)
I find I have trouble writing essays, when I'm not interested in the subject in question. If I happen to like the subject, I could go on forever. Best tip is to plan out your essay first. Like what's going to be in what paragraph.Marksman2200When this happens, you have to FORCE yourself to be interested, unfortunately. When reading a book you can't stand, try keeping an eye out for weird things that happen that you keep noticing. Keep an eye out for things that keep happening/repeating in the structure of the novel. You'll become interested, and the thing you're noticing you're also probably noticing because that sort of thing interests you. For instance, there's a lot of books in the English canon where female characters keep dying off (yesyes, i'm writing a Frankenstein research paper lol). Sometimes, it'll even be a repetition of a word. For instance, many books in the modern period use the word "nothing" or its synonyms a lot. Just look out for repetitions. This will keep you interested AND locate your interest. When you're done, try to find the links between what's been repeating. Try to find out WHY this keeps happening in the book. That's your essay.
[QUOTE="Marksman2200"]I find I have trouble writing essays, when I'm not interested in the subject in question. If I happen to like the subject, I could go on forever. Best tip is to plan out your essay first. Like what's going to be in what paragraph.Paladin_KingWhen this happens, you have to FORCE yourself to be interested, unfortunately. When reading a book you can't stand, try keeping an eye out for weird things that happen that you keep noticing. Keep an eye out for things that keep happening/repeating in the structure of the novel. You'll become interested, and the thing you're noticing you're also probably noticing because that sort of thing interests you. For instance, there's a lot of books in the English canon where female characters keep dying off (yesyes, i'm writing a Frankenstein research paper lol). Sometimes, it'll even be a repetition of a word. For instance, many books in the modern period use the word "nothing" or its synonyms a lot. Just look out for repetitions. This will keep you interested AND locate your interest. When you're done, try to find the links between what's been repeating. Try to find out WHY this keeps happening in the book. That's your essay. Yea, I know that much. I had to do this one book this school year. I pushed and pushed, but couldn't get into it:| It literally had no plot, conflict or theme:|
[QUOTE="Paladin_King"][QUOTE="Marksman2200"]I find I have trouble writing essays, when I'm not interested in the subject in question. If I happen to like the subject, I could go on forever. Best tip is to plan out your essay first. Like what's going to be in what paragraph.Marksman2200When this happens, you have to FORCE yourself to be interested, unfortunately. When reading a book you can't stand, try keeping an eye out for weird things that happen that you keep noticing. Keep an eye out for things that keep happening/repeating in the structure of the novel. You'll become interested, and the thing you're noticing you're also probably noticing because that sort of thing interests you. For instance, there's a lot of books in the English canon where female characters keep dying off (yesyes, i'm writing a Frankenstein research paper lol). Sometimes, it'll even be a repetition of a word. For instance, many books in the modern period use the word "nothing" or its synonyms a lot. Just look out for repetitions. This will keep you interested AND locate your interest. When you're done, try to find the links between what's been repeating. Try to find out WHY this keeps happening in the book. That's your essay. Yea, I know that much. I had to do this one book this school year. I pushed and pushed, but couldn't get into it:| It literally had no plot, conflict or theme:| Well why did it not have a plot or theme? Or was its very nothingness on purpose/a theme? If you're smart, sometimes you can get mileage just from exploring your own dislike/confusion over a book. Why does the book wander without point? Why is there no plot? Why is nothing stable?
Conclusions only truly rock if they're a culmination of everything that came before, if not in content, in energy and focus. Any conclusion with this culmination effect will beat the crap out of any "mind-blowing ending." You're writing an essay, not an M. Night Shyamalan film.Paladin_King:| I was screwing around with him.
[QUOTE="muthsera666"][QUOTE="Paladin_King"]Never start writing an essay without an outline.Paladin_KingI usually skip that step... If you haven't had your ass handed to you yet, you will eventually. And if you never do, something is seriously wrong with whatever institutions you pursued your education at.
Right. Bucknell University is known for its lax standards. I am kind of disappointed in my 3.34 GPA, though.
Have you considered that I write in a logical manner and I don't need to write out a complex outline before writing? Or that I reread and edit my papers? The reason that I haven't had my ass handed to me is that I do well with the written word, and not so much exams.
Why don't you keep your self-rightuous attitude to yourself and alllow others to act in the manner that suits their interests?
I was screwing around with him.Wilfred_Owen
Sorry man. It's just that you'd be surprised what i've dealt with in the past. Many people would say exactly what you said and be dead serious about it :P
Well for one thing, the book was written in the form of multiple diary entries and letters. The only conflict was very little internal conflict, and there was absolutely nothing learned in the end. Overall, the entire book was a 300+ page book of nothingness. If you read it, you would understand me.Marksman2200
Oh I know what you mean. Epistolary novel perhaps? Or just...diary non-fiction. Either way, it's often best then to focus on the form of the novel itself. Why's it written that way, or what does that do to the novel? Chances are, it leaves things out and fragments everything, making things hard to understand. There's something there to write about (though it's no more of a pain to read :) )
Right. Bucknell University is known for its lax standards. I am kind of disappointed in my 3.34 GPA, though.Have you considered that I write in a logical manner and I don't need to write out a complex outline before writing? Or that I reread and edit my papers? The reason that I haven't had my ass handed to me is that I do well with the written word, and not so much exams.
Why don't you keep your self-rightuous attitude to yourself and alllow others to act in the manner that suits their interests?
muthsera666
Academia in general, writing papers, exams or giving presentations, is a never-ending attempt to make yourself better. You're never perfect and there's always ways you can improve or take your work up to the next level.
Assuming you care, anyhow. After all, perhaps improving isn't something that "suits your interests?" Do you believe that you're the best you can possibly be right now? That the quality of your work could not improve in any way, shape, or form?
Everyone's method can improve, and I guarantee that if you want to take it to the next level, even if it only leads to another 2-5% on your mark, however tiny the difference, planning/outlining will definitely be the way to do it. At the very least, even regardless of marks, your product will improve. Forethought and pre-game matter for anyone.
That said, I'm assuming we're speaking of essays in the humanities, since that's generally where this thread has dwelled. If we're talking science reports or something, i've no idea what i'm talking about :)
Thanks for the flame btw.
Yeah, apart from History Essay's I had this problem up until around October this year. I failed English and I am retaking it but I have since gone from D to a B by essentially using my History Essays as a base although I have now had to improve how I wrote those as I am now taking that further in my studies. I have yet to take those Improvements across to see if there are any benefits for me though.lucky326I did the same back at GCSE and i think i went from a C to a B, i also got better at the long exam questions by doing them like history questions
I find I have trouble writing essays, when I'm not interested in the subject in question. If I happen to like the subject, I could go on forever. Best tip is to plan out your essay first. Like what's going to be in what paragraph.Marksman2200You can also solve the problem of going off task by linking all your idea back to the title in every paragraph
[QUOTE="muthsera666"]Right. Bucknell University is known for its lax standards. I am kind of disappointed in my 3.34 GPA, though.Have you considered that I write in a logical manner and I don't need to write out a complex outline before writing? Or that I reread and edit my papers? The reason that I haven't had my ass handed to me is that I do well with the written word, and not so much exams.
Why don't you keep your self-rightuous attitude to yourself and alllow others to act in the manner that suits their interests?
Paladin_King
Academia in general, writing papers, exams or giving presentations, is a never-ending attempt to make yourself better. You're never perfect and there's always ways you can improve or take your work up to the next level.
Assuming you care, anyhow. After all, perhaps improving isn't something that "suits your interests?" Do you believe that you're the best you can possibly be right now? That the quality of your work could not improve in any way, shape, or form?
Everyone's method can improve, and I guarantee that if you want to take it to the next level, even if it only leads to another 2-5% on your mark, however tiny the difference, planning/outlining will definitely be the way to do it. At the very least, even regardless of marks, your product will improve. Forethought and pre-game matter for anyone.
That said, I'm assuming we're speaking of essays in the humanities, since that's generally where this thread has dwelled. If we're talking science reports or something, i've no idea what i'm talking about :)
Thanks for the flame btw.
I never stated that I was perfect, nor did I imply such a preposterous notion. You are absolutely correct that no one is perfect. If I get an A- on my paper instead of an A, then you're right; I don't have an interest in improving. I accept that there are areas in which I can improve. But, the amount of time it would take to improve by a small margin is not time-effective with the amount of work that is presented before me. I never said that outlining isn't useful, it's just not something that I always do. If I do construct an outline, it is simplistic and limited to generalities so that I can let the paper flow in a naturalistic manner and that I am not constricting it to an artificially conceptualized structure.
If you haven't had your ass handed to you yet, you will eventually. And if you never do, something is seriously wrong with whatever institutions you pursued your education at.Paladin_King
And for the flame, I have no idea what you're talking about. You insulted my ability to communicate my ideas in an effectual manner, as well as the University I attend. That, sir, is far more of a flame than my disagreeing with what you recommended.
Being a professional writer, I don't have this problem. I suggest making an outline to gather your thoughts in order to organize the structure of your paper.I do really well in math b so far btw. but not so good at writing essays.
i have trouble thinking of ideas or generating them then putting it on paper. how do you know how make your ideas flow or what to write about on paper?
realistic44
[QUOTE="realistic44"]Being a professional writer, I don't have this problem. I suggest making an outline to gather your thoughts in order to organize the structure of your paper.I do really well in math b so far btw. but not so good at writing essays.
i have trouble thinking of ideas or generating them then putting it on paper. how do you know how make your ideas flow or what to write about on paper?
LauraPortinari
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uhh yeah what she said.
I do really well in math b so far btw. but not so good at writing essays.
i have trouble thinking of ideas or generating them then putting it on paper. how do you know how make your ideas flow or what to write about on paper?
realistic44
Formatting and grammar, the instructors will teach you.
As for ideas.....
If it's something you like, no problem. The info should flow naturally. Just express them in a way that meets the formatting and grammar requirements starting with an outline.
If it's something that feels very dry to you, you'll have to do a lot of research first. Gather all pertinent info. Group similar info together. Then make the outline.
If you do enough essays, you can actually formulate a "cookie-cutter" outline that works every time.Â
It's simple, you just gotta be good at writing BS down. I mean man I was friends a salutatorian at my school (we had 4, they all had same GPA) and he could write a good paper really fast. You just have to be good at coming up with some BS that the teacher will like. Same with debate team, he said he didn't believe half the sh*t he said, he was just in it to win/get a good grade.
:lol: Dude, this is a forum on a website about games. Get the stick out of your ass. Somebody insulted you on the internet. Get over it.And for the flame, I have no idea what you're talking about. You insulted my ability to communicate my ideas in an effectual manner, as well as the University I attend. That, sir, is far more of a flame than my disagreeing with what you recommended.
muthsera666
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