Yet AGAIN, Israel Tortures Prisoners.

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#1 thotoz
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http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2519072.ece

Every week or so I search up Israel on Google News, and it's hilarious. I don't know how the U.S. can be allied with such a nation.. 

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As opposed to those law abiding and totally respectable nations over there?

There's a lot of sad stuff going on in that area, no nation is innocent.  All of them do some pretty horrible stuff.

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#3 masterfreund
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Wow, thats kind of weird
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#4 Aznsilvrboy
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I'm not really surprised, I'm sure the U.S does something along these lines elsewhere in the world (or gets someone else to do it for them).
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#5 BEAN_LARD_MULCH
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As opposed to those law abiding and totally respectable nations over there?

There's a lot of sad stuff going on in that area, no nation is innocent. All of them do some pretty horrible stuff.

duxup

Indeed, I wonder if this is the 1 in 5000 cases that arnt revealed or the one in 90000 

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#6 Silver_Dragon17
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A little thing called "War" my friend.
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#7 LJS9502_basic
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I doubt it's limited to just the one country....
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Wow, I guess this is the first time this ever happened :roll:. Yet no one cares when Muslim extremists decapitate prisoners.
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Wow, I guess this is the first time this ever happened :roll:. Yet no one cares when Muslim extremists decapitate prisoners.postulio14

the extremists just behead the people, thats not painful

israelis don just shoot em, they torture em slowly.. 

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I don't know how the U.S. can be allied with such a nation..

thotoz

Because their military kicks ass. 

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If there's someone in the mid east that we're allied with that we shouldn't be, it's Saudi Arabia.
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[QUOTE="postulio14"]Wow, I guess this is the first time this ever happened :roll:. Yet no one cares when Muslim extremists decapitate prisoners.thotoz

the extremists just behead the people, thats not painful

israelis don just shoot em, they torture em slowly..

I think it is safe to say that the Muslim jihadists don't just behead them, they probably torture most of their prisoners.

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#13 SaintLeonidas
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Who care, if a US soldier was captured by insurgents, your telling me they are treated nicely? Nope, how many people have been kidnapped and beheaded?
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[QUOTE="postulio14"]Wow, I guess this is the first time this ever happened :roll:. Yet no one cares when Muslim extremists decapitate prisoners.thotoz

the extremists just behead the people, thats not painful

israelis don just shoot em, they torture em slowly..

Beheading not painful?~?!?!?!?!?!? You realize they aren't doing beheadings with a guillotine, no that's far too advanced. they use machetes and saw off their heads, it's not over in a quick second.

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A little thing called "War" my friend.Silver_Dragon17
Oh. I see. Then war should be outlawed until people agree to be a little more civil about it.
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[QUOTE="thotoz"]

[QUOTE="postulio14"]Wow, I guess this is the first time this ever happened :roll:. Yet no one cares when Muslim extremists decapitate prisoners.MTBare

the extremists just behead the people, thats not painful

israelis don just shoot em, they torture em slowly..

Beheading not painful?~?!?!?!?!?!? You realize they aren't doing beheadings with a guillotine, no that's far too advanced. they use machetes and saw off their heads, it's not over in a quick second.

yeah, they say some of the blades used were dull and they had to saw the heads off, and the people were screaming as they were slowly decapitated.

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[QUOTE="MTBare"][QUOTE="thotoz"]

[QUOTE="postulio14"]Wow, I guess this is the first time this ever happened :roll:. Yet no one cares when Muslim extremists decapitate prisoners.SaintLeonidas

the extremists just behead the people, thats not painful

israelis don just shoot em, they torture em slowly..

Beheading not painful?~?!?!?!?!?!? You realize they aren't doing beheadings with a guillotine, no that's far too advanced. they use machetes and saw off their heads, it's not over in a quick second.

yeah, they say some of the blades used were dull and they had to saw the heads off, and the people were screaming as they were slowly decapitated.

I'm betting also that lots of times they kill and/or torture prisoners by other means too, if they are willing to video tape decapitating people, who knows what atrocities they could come up with. 

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[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]A little thing called "War" my friend.quiglythegreat
Oh. I see. Then war should be outlawed until people agree to be a little more civil about it.

Huh? I'm saying he's complaining about something that is to be expected in a war between countries that has been going on since the time of Christ! What are you talking about?

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[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]A little thing called "War" my friend.Silver_Dragon17

Oh. I see. Then war should be outlawed until people agree to be a little more civil about it.

Huh? I'm saying he's complaining about something that is to be expected in a war between countries that has been going on since the time of Christ! What are you talking about?

I was kind of joking, but anyway, you shouldn't be okay with something simply because it happens. That's just silly and passive. And I know both of those very well. Death and suffering happen all the goddamn time. That doesn't mean I'm cool with either. I'm not. I don't see why anyone should be jaded about torture.
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#20 Silver_Dragon17
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[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]A little thing called "War" my friend.quiglythegreat

Oh. I see. Then war should be outlawed until people agree to be a little more civil about it.

Huh? I'm saying he's complaining about something that is to be expected in a war between countries that has been going on since the time of Christ! What are you talking about?

I was kind of joking, but anyway, you shouldn't be okay with something simply because it happens. That's just silly and passive. And I know both of those very well. Death and suffering happen all the goddamn time. That doesn't mean I'm cool with either. I'm not. I don't see why anyone should be jaded about torture.

I'm not jaded about it either, but there is no such thing as a country that doesn't torture prisoners in a war. Especially this war. There's nothing we can do about it. I'm saying it is to be expected because that's what war is, not because I'm "cool" with it.

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#21 Choga
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Is this a surprise to you?
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Is this a surprise to you?Choga

Yeah, really. What do you expect, Israel is a tiny country in the middle of the humongous middle-east, and is surrounded by nutters/terrorist factions that want them all dead. Id be a little hostile too. 

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[QUOTE="Choga"]Is this a surprise to you?Taegukki

Yeah, really. What do you expect, Israel is a tiny country in the middle of the humongous middle-east, and is surrounded by nutters/terrorist factions that want them all dead. Id be a little hostile too.

Isreal shouldnt be there in the first place.  

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#24 Greatgone12
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No nation over there has done nothing wrong. FACT.

They're all guilty, so singling out one is pretty misinformed. 

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[QUOTE="Taegukki"]

[QUOTE="Choga"]Is this a surprise to you?Choga

Yeah, really. What do you expect, Israel is a tiny country in the middle of the humongous middle-east, and is surrounded by nutters/terrorist factions that want them all dead. Id be a little hostile too.

Isreal shouldnt be there in the first place.

exactly. zionists rule the U.S...they have a strong influence on U.S's foreign policy and the media.

MUSLIMS WERE AT PEACE WITH JEWS BEFORE ISRAEL EXISTED 

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#26 Greatgone12
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[QUOTE="Taegukki"]

[QUOTE="Choga"]Is this a surprise to you?Choga

Yeah, really. What do you expect, Israel is a tiny country in the middle of the humongous middle-east, and is surrounded by nutters/terrorist factions that want them all dead. Id be a little hostile too.

Isreal shouldnt be there in the first place.

Well, they were kicked out of Europe. I don't see Israel shouldn't exist. Is it so the other greedy countries in the Middle East can take the land? There'll be more war. What's so wrong about giving Israel a smal piece of land?
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#27 thotoz
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No nation over there has done nothing wrong. FACT.

They're all guilty, so singling out one is pretty misinformed.

Greatgone12

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that is true, but at the end of the day, what is the difference between the zionists and the muslim extremists? 

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[QUOTE="Taegukki"]

[QUOTE="Choga"]Is this a surprise to you?Choga

Yeah, really. What do you expect, Israel is a tiny country in the middle of the humongous middle-east, and is surrounded by nutters/terrorist factions that want them all dead. Id be a little hostile too.

Isreal shouldnt be there in the first place.

:| Yes, they should.

ISRAEL AND JERUSALEM FACTS

1. ISRAEL BECAME A STATE IN 1312 B.C., TWO MILLENNIA BEFORE ISLAM;

2. ARAB REFUGEES FROM ISRAEL BEGAN CALLING THEMSELVES "PALESTINIANS" IN 1967, TWO DECADES AFTER (MODERN) ISRAELI STATEHOOD;

3. AFTER CONQUERING THE LAND IN 1272 B.C., JEWS RULED IT FOR A THOUSAND YEARS AND MAINTAINED A CONTINUOUS PRESENCE THERE FOR 3,300 YEARS;

4. FOR OVER 3,300 YEARS, JERUSALEM WAS THE JEWISH CAPITAL. IT WAS NEVER THE CAPITAL OF ANY ARAB OR MUSLIM ENTITY. EVEN UNDER JORDANIAN RULE, (EAST) JERUSALEM WAS NOT MADE THE CAPITAL, AND NO ARAB LEADER CAME TO VISIT IT;

5. JERUSALEM IS MENTIONED OVER 700 TIMES IN THE BIBLE, BUT NOT ONCE IS IT MENTIONED IN THE QUR'AN;

6. KING DAVID FOUNDED JERUSALEM; MOHAMMED NEVER SET FOOT IN IT;

7. JEWS PRAY FACING JERUSALEM; MUSLIMS FACE MECCA. IF THEY ARE BETWEEN THE TWO CITIES, MUSLIMS PRAY FACING MECCA, WITH THEIR BACKS TO JERUSALEM;

8. IN 1948, ARAB LEADERS URGED THEIR PEOPLE TO LEAVE, PROMISING TO CLEANSE THE LAND OF JEWISH PRESENCE. 68% OF THEM FLED WITHOUT EVER SETTING EYES ON AN ISRAELI SOLDIER;

9. VIRTUALLY THE ENTIRE JEWISH POPULATION OF MUSLIM COUNTRIES HAD TO FLEE AS THE RESULT OF VIOLENCE AND POGROMS;

10. SOME 630,000 ARABS LEFT ISRAEL IN 1948, WHILE CLOSE TO A MILLION JEWS WERE FORCED TO LEAVE THE MUSLIM COUNTRIES;

11. IN SPITE OF THE VAST TERRITORIES AT THEIR DISPOSAL, ARAB REFUGEES WERE DELIBERATELY PREVENTED FROM ASSIMILATING INTO THEIR HOST COUNTRIES. OF 100 MILLION REFUGEES FOLLOWING WORLD WAR 2, THEY ARE THE ONLY GROUP TO HAVE NEVER INTEGRATED WITH THEIR CORELIGIONISTS. MOST OF THE JEWISH REFUGEES FROM EUROPE AND ARAB LANDS WERE SETTLED IN ISRAEL, A COUNTRY NO LARGER THAN NEW JERSEY;

12. THERE ARE 22 ARAB COUNTRIES, NOT COUNTING PALESTINE. THERE IS ONLY ONE JEWISH STATE. ARABS STARTED ALL FIVE WARS AGAINST ISRAEL, AND LOST EVERY ONE OF THEM;

13. FATAH AND HAMAS CONSTITUTIONS STILL CALL FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL. ISRAEL CEDED MOST OF THE WEST BANK AND ALL OF GAZA TO THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY, AND EVEN PROVIDED IT WITH ARMS;

14. DURING THE JORDANIAN OCCUPATION, JEWISH HOLY SITES WERE VANDALIZED AND WERE OFF LIMITS TO JEWS. UNDER ISRAELI RULE, ALL MUSLIM AND CHRISTIAN HOLY SITES ARE ACCESSIBLE TO ALL FAITHS;

15. OUT OF 175 UNITED NATIONS SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTIONS UP TO
1990, 97 WERE AGAINST ISRAEL; OUT OF 690 GENERAL ASSEMBLY RESOLUTIONS,
429 WERE AGAINST ISRAEL;

16. THE U.N. WAS SILENT WHEN THE JORDANIANS DESTROYED 58 SYNAGOGUES IN THE OLD CITY OF JERUSALEM. IT REMAINED SILENT WHILE JORDAN SYSTEMATICALLY DESECRATED THE ANCIENT JEWISH CEMETERY ON THE MOUNT OF OLIVES, AN D IT REMAINED SILENT WHEN JORDAN ENFORCED APARTHEID LAWS PREVENTING JEWS FROM ACCESSING THE TEMPLE MOUNT AND WESTERN WALL.

 

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[QUOTE="Choga"][QUOTE="Taegukki"]

[QUOTE="Choga"]Is this a surprise to you?Taegukki

Yeah, really. What do you expect, Israel is a tiny country in the middle of the humongous middle-east, and is surrounded by nutters/terrorist factions that want them all dead. Id be a little hostile too.

Isreal shouldnt be there in the first place.

:| Yes, they should.

ISRAEL AND JERUSALEM FACTS

1. ISRAEL BECAME A STATE IN 1312 B.C., TWO MILLENNIA BEFORE ISLAM;

2. ARAB REFUGEES FROM ISRAEL BEGAN CALLING THEMSELVES "PALESTINIANS" IN 1967, TWO DECADES AFTER (MODERN) ISRAELI STATEHOOD;

3. AFTER CONQUERING THE LAND IN 1272 B.C., JEWS RULED IT FOR A THOUSAND YEARS AND MAINTAINED A CONTINUOUS PRESENCE THERE FOR 3,300 YEARS;

4. FOR OVER 3,300 YEARS, JERUSALEM WAS THE JEWISH CAPITAL. IT WAS NEVER THE CAPITAL OF ANY ARAB OR MUSLIM ENTITY. EVEN UNDER JORDANIAN RULE, (EAST) JERUSALEM WAS NOT MADE THE CAPITAL, AND NO ARAB LEADER CAME TO VISIT IT;

5. JERUSALEM IS MENTIONED OVER 700 TIMES IN THE BIBLE, BUT NOT ONCE IS IT MENTIONED IN THE QUR'AN;

6. KING DAVID FOUNDED JERUSALEM; MOHAMMED NEVER SET FOOT IN IT;

7. JEWS PRAY FACING JERUSALEM; MUSLIMS FACE MECCA. IF THEY ARE BETWEEN THE TWO CITIES, MUSLIMS PRAY FACING MECCA, WITH THEIR BACKS TO JERUSALEM;

8. IN 1948, ARAB LEADERS URGED THEIR PEOPLE TO LEAVE, PROMISING TO CLEANSE THE LAND OF JEWISH PRESENCE. 68% OF THEM FLED WITHOUT EVER SETTING EYES ON AN ISRAELI SOLDIER;

9. VIRTUALLY THE ENTIRE JEWISH POPULATION OF MUSLIM COUNTRIES HAD TO FLEE AS THE RESULT OF VIOLENCE AND POGROMS;

10. SOME 630,000 ARABS LEFT ISRAEL IN 1948, WHILE CLOSE TO A MILLION JEWS WERE FORCED TO LEAVE THE MUSLIM COUNTRIES;

11. IN SPITE OF THE VAST TERRITORIES AT THEIR DISPOSAL, ARAB REFUGEES WERE DELIBERATELY PREVENTED FROM ASSIMILATING INTO THEIR HOST COUNTRIES. OF 100 MILLION REFUGEES FOLLOWING WORLD WAR 2, THEY ARE THE ONLY GROUP TO HAVE NEVER INTEGRATED WITH THEIR CORELIGIONISTS. MOST OF THE JEWISH REFUGEES FROM EUROPE AND ARAB LANDS WERE SETTLED IN ISRAEL, A COUNTRY NO LARGER THAN NEW JERSEY;

12. THERE ARE 22 ARAB COUNTRIES, NOT COUNTING PALESTINE. THERE IS ONLY ONE JEWISH STATE. ARABS STARTED ALL FIVE WARS AGAINST ISRAEL, AND LOST EVERY ONE OF THEM;

13. FATAH AND HAMAS CONSTITUTIONS STILL CALL FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL. ISRAEL CEDED MOST OF THE WEST BANK AND ALL OF GAZA TO THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY, AND EVEN PROVIDED IT WITH ARMS;

14. DURING THE JORDANIAN OCCUPATION, JEWISH HOLY SITES WERE VANDALIZED AND WERE OFF LIMITS TO JEWS. UNDER ISRAELI RULE, ALL MUSLIM AND CHRISTIAN HOLY SITES ARE ACCESSIBLE TO ALL FAITHS;

15. OUT OF 175 UNITED NATIONS SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTIONS UP TO
1990, 97 WERE AGAINST ISRAEL; OUT OF 690 GENERAL ASSEMBLY RESOLUTIONS,
429 WERE AGAINST ISRAEL;

16. THE U.N. WAS SILENT WHEN THE JORDANIANS DESTROYED 58 SYNAGOGUES IN THE OLD CITY OF JERUSALEM. IT REMAINED SILENT WHILE JORDAN SYSTEMATICALLY DESECRATED THE ANCIENT JEWISH CEMETERY ON THE MOUNT OF OLIVES, AN D IT REMAINED SILENT WHEN JORDAN ENFORCED APARTHEID LAWS PREVENTING JEWS FROM ACCESSING THE TEMPLE MOUNT AND WESTERN WALL.

 

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The moral of the story .... don't screw with Israel. They're insane, and will kill you.

Although I do think it pretty awesome that when your soldiers are kidnapped by another nation, they immediately start bombing. That's some initiative I'd like to see from Britain and America regarding Iran.

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The moral of the story .... don't screw with Israel. They're insane, and will kill you.

Although I do think it pretty awesome that when your soldiers are kidnapped from another nation, the following day they start bombing. That's some initiative I'd like to see from Britain and America regarding Iran.

SimpJee

You cannot kill innocent people/attack a country because of a certain group of people. That's immoral. 

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I don't think Israel should have existed in the first place, but it's not like the other countries in the Middle East are innocent either...
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[QUOTE="SimpJee"]

The moral of the story .... don't screw with Israel. They're insane, and will kill you.

Although I do think it pretty awesome that when your soldiers are kidnapped from another nation, the following day they start bombing. That's some initiative I'd like to see from Britain and America regarding Iran.

thotoz

You cannot kill innocent people/attack a country because of a certain group of people. That's immoral. 

War is war.....immorality doesn't really matter in that case.  One must play to win.

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The moral of the story .... don't screw with Israel. They're insane, and will kill you.

Although I do think it pretty awesome that when your soldiers are kidnapped by another nation, they immediately start bombing. That's some initiative I'd like to see from Britain and America regarding Iran.

SimpJee

Yeah seriously, people can just push the U.S. and Britain around, but you can't mess with Israel. 

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They torture prisoners while the terrorists target civilans with bombs and missles...
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If there's someone in the mid east that we're allied with that we shouldn't be, it's Saudi Arabia.fidosim

WHAT!? Are you serious!? Where do you think all that oil comes from?! 

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#38 VigilanteArtist
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I don't know how the U.S. can be allied with such a nation.. thotoz

This should shed some light on the subject:

The Israel Lobby: The Influence of AIPAC on US Foreign Policy:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2894821400057137878

 It's a fantastic documentary, and shows just how much power the self-described "pro-Israel lobby" holds in the US. 

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[QUOTE="SimpJee"]

The moral of the story .... don't screw with Israel. They're insane, and will kill you.

Although I do think it pretty awesome that when your soldiers are kidnapped from another nation, the following day they start bombing. That's some initiative I'd like to see from Britain and America regarding Iran.

thotoz

You cannot kill innocent people/attack a country because of a certain group of people. That's immoral.

They attacked Hezbollah because they not only kidnapped 3 of their soldiers, they also shot missiles into residential areas of Israel. What did they expect, a slap on the wrist? 

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#40 thotoz
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It's hatred built up, and the Arab countries are not the "ROOT CAUSE" of the whole problem.

To know whos' wrong, go to the root cause.

 

U.S. put up the Shah of Iran (puppet of U.S., killing thousands of Iranians that protested as advice from U.S.). This started a lot of the conflict, let's see..

 

U.S. puts up Shah of Iran ---> Iranians hate the Shah --> Iranian Revolution --> Rohollah Khomeini (Shia) --> Shia in Iraq getting erupted --> Saddham fears Iranian Revolution --> Saddham (Iraq) attacks Iran --> U.S. gets Saddham --> we are stuck in Iraq --> Iran still hates us from when we helped Saddham own Iran ---> hatred built up --> we support Israel despite their harsh reaction to the conflict ---> hatred built up --> more hatred --> more hatred --> WORLD WAR 3 (more nations join in the conflict)

 

The U.S. doesn't care about the world, first they go into Iraq cause of Weapons of Mass Destruction, then they say they want achieve Democracy there, war on terror, bla bla.

The U.S. only makes allies for ITS OWN BENEFIT, they dont give a **** about the rest of the world. They are allied with SAUDI ARABIA COUGH COUGH, why?! They are allied with ISRAEL cause they have the best military in the Middle-East (and is a strong ally military wise).

1971 - When East Pakistan (allied with India, Soviets) was at war with West Pakistan, where West Pakistan lost making East Pakistan into Bangladesh, THE USA WAS HELPING WEST PAKISTAN (despite their gov't doing some negative stuff, such as indian soldiers being imprisoned until 1988 (prisoners kept from a war 17 years before!).

The U.S. obviously doesn't care for Africa. They're allied with Saudi Arabia. What do you expect?

Oh..and zionists have a strong influence on the foreign policy of U.S. + the media. Zionists run Israel. Zionists are the next (german curse word starting with "n") pretty much.

The Shah of Iran, who was USA's puppet, also said that the Jewish lobby (zionists that dont practice judaism) has too much influence in the U.S, it's true.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hQgZ3oLp_WY 

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#41 thotoz
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[QUOTE="thotoz"][QUOTE="SimpJee"]

The moral of the story .... don't screw with Israel. They're insane, and will kill you.

Although I do think it pretty awesome that when your soldiers are kidnapped from another nation, the following day they start bombing. That's some initiative I'd like to see from Britain and America regarding Iran.

Taegukki

You cannot kill innocent people/attack a country because of a certain group of people. That's immoral.

They attacked Hezbollah because they not only kidnapped 3 of their soldiers, they also shot missiles into residential areas of Israel. What did they expect, a slap on the wrist?

Wait... correct that.

Hezbollah shot 4000 missiles in Israel, killing 37. Israel can shoot 5 missiles, and kill a hundred. They can't attack the whole country cause of that.

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#43 LJS9502_basic
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Wait... correct that.

Hezbollah shot 4000 missiles in Israel, killing 37. Israel can shoot 5 missiles, and kill a hundred. They can't attack the whole country cause of that.

thotoz

So?  No one would have been killed but for Hezbollah.  You can't blame someone for being accurate because the other side isn't.:|

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#44 LJS9502_basic
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So since we attack afghanistan/iraq the terrorists have permission to attack the USA including civilians

Therefore the 9/11 attack was 100% allowed and just another part of war. So lets stop whining on 9/11 cause who cares 10 times more died in terrorist attacks in India. 

thotoz

Your timeline is incorrect...

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#45 thotoz
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[QUOTE="thotoz"]

So since we attack afghanistan/iraq the terrorists have permission to attack the USA including civilians

Therefore the 9/11 attack was 100% allowed and just another part of war. So lets stop whining on 9/11 cause who cares 10 times more died in terrorist attacks in India.

LJS9502_basic

Your timeline is incorrect...

Way before the 9/11 they hated us, bro, way before.  

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#46 thotoz
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[QUOTE="thotoz"]

Wait... correct that.

Hezbollah shot 4000 missiles in Israel, killing 37. Israel can shoot 5 missiles, and kill a hundred. They can't attack the whole country cause of that.

LJS9502_basic

So? No one would have been killed but for Hezbollah. You can't blame someone for being accurate because the other side isn't.:|

There's a difference between 40 dead and 2000 dead from Israel, these numbers aren't accurate but you get the point. 

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[QUOTE="Taegukki"][QUOTE="thotoz"][QUOTE="SimpJee"]

The moral of the story .... don't screw with Israel. They're insane, and will kill you.

Although I do think it pretty awesome that when your soldiers are kidnapped from another nation, the following day they start bombing. That's some initiative I'd like to see from Britain and America regarding Iran.

thotoz

You cannot kill innocent people/attack a country because of a certain group of people. That's immoral.

They attacked Hezbollah because they not only kidnapped 3 of their soldiers, they also shot missiles into residential areas of Israel. What did they expect, a slap on the wrist?

So since we attack afghanistan/iraq the terrorists have permission to attack the USA including civilians

Therefore the 9/11 attack was 100% allowed and just another part of war. So lets stop whining on 9/11 cause who cares a ****, 10 times more died in terrorist attacks in India.

:| Attacking civilians isnt part of war. You know who gives a **** about 911? Everyone with a shread of decency or heart, and everyone who lost a loved one in the attacks. Dont for a second think that theyre not worth a damn. Im not going to reply to any more oof youre posts, youre a very twisted and woefully misinformed person.

[QUOTE="thotoz"]

Wait... correct that.

Hezbollah shot 4000 missiles in Israel, killing 37. Israel can shoot 5 missiles, and kill a hundred. They can't attack the whole country cause of that.

LJS9502_basic

So? No one would have been killed but for Hezbollah. You can't blame someone for being accurate because the other side isn't.:|

Exactly. Hezbollah started it, Israel finished it. Case closed.

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#48 thotoz
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[QUOTE="thotoz"][QUOTE="Taegukki"][QUOTE="thotoz"][QUOTE="SimpJee"]

The moral of the story .... don't screw with Israel. They're insane, and will kill you.

Although I do think it pretty awesome that when your soldiers are kidnapped from another nation, the following day they start bombing. That's some initiative I'd like to see from Britain and America regarding Iran.

Taegukki

You cannot kill innocent people/attack a country because of a certain group of people. That's immoral.

They attacked Hezbollah because they not only kidnapped 3 of their soldiers, they also shot missiles into residential areas of Israel. What did they expect, a slap on the wrist?

So since we attack afghanistan/iraq the terrorists have permission to attack the USA including civilians

Therefore the 9/11 attack was 100% allowed and just another part of war. So lets stop whining on 9/11 cause who cares a ****, 10 times more died in terrorist attacks in India.

:| Attacking civilians isnt part of war. You know who gives a **** about 911? Everyone with a shread of decency or heart, and everyone who lost a loved one in the attacks. Dont for a second think that theyre not worth a damn. Im not going to reply to any more oof youre posts, youre a very twisted and woefully misinformed person.

[QUOTE="thotoz"]

Wait... correct that.

Hezbollah shot 4000 missiles in Israel, killing 37. Israel can shoot 5 missiles, and kill a hundred. They can't attack the whole country cause of that.

LJS9502_basic

So? No one would have been killed but for Hezbollah. You can't blame someone for being accurate because the other side isn't.:|

Exactly. Hezbollah started it, Israel finished it. Case closed.

I don't have a heart cause I don't care about 9/11? I do care about 9/11, but it is an overexaggerated event.

Do you not care for the people dieing in Africa?

What about all of the poor people in the world dieing?

And the natural disasters in places like India?

What about the many thousands of civilians dieing because of the U.S. being in Afghanistan or Iraq?

What about the Lebanese dieing? Palestinian? What about anyone dieing?

So we should care more for the 9/11 attack because it took place in the U.S., and the U.S. is inferior to every other race, correct? lol.

If you cared about the 9/11 attack, that means you care for people's lives. Then how can you say that it is "ok" to kill thousands of lebanese for the cost of only some Israelis? Is that not a contradiction?

Even though Hezbollah started it, Israel was killing at a 100:1 ratio (100 lives killed for the cost of 1)

Either care about all of humanity, or none. Why are there suicide bombers? If you get to the root cause of all this wreck, you come to the U.S. and its allies that started it. What's going on today, is only a build-up of all the hatred started by the U.S. and its allies.  

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Israel is dealing with a culture that is entirely different from ours. The extremist muslims don't respect civility. They don't respect kindness. They don't respect diplomacy. They don't respect tolerance. They respect power, brutality, strong will, fear, etc. They aren't like us. Unfortunately, they don't respect civility. The only civility they respect is the type of civility that comes out of the end of a gun.
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#50 thotoz
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Israel is dealing with a culture that is entirely different from ours. The extremist muslims don't respect civility. They don't respect kindness. They don't respect diplomacy. They don't respect tolerance. They respect power, brutality, strong will, fear, etc. They aren't like us. Unfortunately, they don't respect civility. The only civility they respect is the type of civility that comes out of the end of a gun. john_doe2

Which is why the U.S. needs to choose its allies, if it wants to be "liked" by the Middle-East majority (muslims). Btw, your sentence is valid, but change it to "extremist muslims and zionists".

The U.S. should declare Israel being a violator of Human Rights and withdraw its alliance. I just don't know why Israel should exist when the MAJORITY of the Jews in Israel DISAGREE with Israel existing! (note: a zionist is not a follower of judaism aka not a jew besides birth, and it is against the TORAH to have the state of israel to exist)