Yob culture in britain

The british govt has introduced a mosquito device in towns and nears shopping malls:lol:Basically they emit a high pitched frequency sound that only youths (teens) can hear. Apparently this is to disperse them if they are in a group and stop them causing trouble. Any thoughts on this, personally i feel that youths in britain are starting to feel victimised.

Do you have a similar problem in your country, because in britain their is a big debate going on about yob culture and how to deal with it.

Actually I feel like I should clarify about the mosquito device. It was brought in a few years ago by private shop owners to disperse crowds of youths, the government is now under pressure to ban it. Anyway the yob culture over here is pretty bad its just not a good idea to go out on a friday or saturday night as youll probably get stabbed and for some weird reason firemen are now getting attacked which is just plain ridiculous.braindead_hero

Yes you are right, i have met a lot of good and bad people and i was no angel myself once. But i never did the sort of crazy things some youths are doing now its crazy.

Yeah, I believe we are officially the single most watched and monitored country in the world. Not sure if its true but doesn't seem that far off. We apparently are watched more than people living under a dictatorship. Oh well especially with ID cards being inroduced I'm just glad that the government are so god at keeping all our personal details safe and never lose 8million bank details on a child benefit disc with no encryption just a password.

Yeah, I believe we are officially the single most watched and monitored country in the world. Not sure if its true but doesn't seem that far off. We apparently are watched more than people living under a dictatorship. Oh well especially with ID cards being inroduced I'm just glad that the government are so god at keeping all our personal details safe and never lose 8million bank details on a child benefit disc with no encryption just a password.

braindead_hero

Apparently their are more cctv cameras in Britain than in the rest of Europe put together, dont know if this is true for a fact. But it shows the paranoia in this country.

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Yeah, I believe we are officially the single most watched and monitored country in the world. Not sure if its true but doesn't seem that far off. We apparently are watched more than people living under a dictatorship. Oh well especially with ID cards being inroduced I'm just glad that the government are so god at keeping all our personal details safe and never lose 8million bank details on a child benefit disc with no encryption just a password.

stephenc360

Apparently their are more cctv cameras in Britain than in the rest of Europe put together, dont know if this is true for a fact. But it shows the paranoia in this country.

I don't think its paranoia, I think its just good sense.

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Yeah, I believe we are officially the single most watched and monitored country in the world. Not sure if its true but doesn't seem that far off. We apparently are watched more than people living under a dictatorship. Oh well especially with ID cards being inroduced I'm just glad that the government are so god at keeping all our personal details safe and never lose 8million bank details on a child benefit disc with no encryption just a password.

mattyftm

Apparently their are more cctv cameras in Britain than in the rest of Europe put together, dont know if this is true for a fact. But it shows the paranoia in this country.

I don't think its paranoia, I think its just good sense.

Yes it does make good sense i guess, a lot of troublemakers get caught on CCTV, it never ceases to amaze me when you see idiots holding up a store little knowing they are being viewed on camera. And they dont even bother to cover their faces.

[QUOTE="braindead_hero"]

Yeah, I believe we are officially the single most watched and monitored country in the world. Not sure if its true but doesn't seem that far off. We apparently are watched more than people living under a dictatorship. Oh well especially with ID cards being inroduced I'm just glad that the government are so god at keeping all our personal details safe and never lose 8million bank details on a child benefit disc with no encryption just a password.

stephenc360

Apparently their are more cctv cameras in Britain than in the rest of Europe put together, dont know if this is true for a fact. But it shows the paranoia in this country.

I also think Im right in saying that Britain has the most extnsive record of its own citizens DNA?

i think in london you are picked by a CCTV camera every 7 seconds!

I think the mosquito thing is a good idea, and people who disagree with it are being a bit silly... saying this device "isnt fair" is stupid, the people (generally teens) vandalising the area arent being fair either.skinnypete91

when part of a group is bad to you, you must punish the entire group. not exactly good logic.

I personally wouldn't call it good sense, more a massive infringement on civil liberties. It doesn't make us any safer it just makes it easier fot the government to hand out ASBOs which don't really do anything, besides rewarding yob culture with a badge of honor.braindead_hero

Yes again you are right, where my brother works they call him ASBO as a nickname and he has never done anything:lol: the whole thing the govt has introduced is now seen as a joke.

I think it is wrong. If They are doing something illegal - call the police. If they are not, just leave them be.mattyftm

Yeah but why waste a lot of police time if a short high pitched buzz can disperse a troublesome crowd? Makes sense to me...

[QUOTE="skinnypete91"]I think the mosquito thing is a good idea, and people who disagree with it are being a bit silly... saying this device "isnt fair" is stupid, the people (generally teens) vandalising the area arent being fair either.Hewkii

when part of a group is bad to you, you must punish the entire group. not exactly good logic.

Well if you dont want to be targeted as a troublemaker, then dont hang around with people making trouble? That is good logic...

Well if you dont want to be targeted as a troublemaker, then dont hang around with people making trouble? That is good logic...

skinnypete91

though that depends on the range of these devices.

I personally wouldn't call it good sense, more a massive infringement on civil liberties. It doesn't make us any safer it just makes it easier fot the government to hand out ASBOs which don't really do anything, besides rewarding yob culture with a badge of honor.braindead_hero

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[QUOTE="skinnypete91"]I think the mosquito thing is a good idea, and people who disagree with it are being a bit silly... saying this device "isnt fair" is stupid, the people (generally teens) vandalising the area arent being fair either.skinnypete91

when part of a group is bad to you, you must punish the entire group. not exactly good logic.

Well if you dont want to be targeted as a troublemaker, then dont hang around with people making trouble? That is good logic...

Sometimes its not that easy, you can have peer pressure where some people are forced in to being part of a group. Like a lot of gangs for example.

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[QUOTE="skinnypete91"]I think the mosquito thing is a good idea, and people who disagree with it are being a bit silly... saying this device "isnt fair" is stupid, the people (generally teens) vandalising the area arent being fair either.stephenc360

when part of a group is bad to you, you must punish the entire group. not exactly good logic.

Well if you dont want to be targeted as a troublemaker, then dont hang around with people making trouble? That is good logic...

Sometimes its not that easy, you can have peer pressure where some people are forced in to being part of a group. Like a lot of gangs for example.

If someone really doesnt want to do something, they wont do it. Besides, with the mosquito device, the worst that happens to them is a buzz that hurts their ears. If the police are called, they mighy end up being questioned by police... it justs seems so much simpler to deal with gangs of people like this than call the police out.

[QUOTE="braindead_hero"]I personally wouldn't call it good sense, more a massive infringement on civil liberties. It doesn't make us any safer it just makes it easier fot the government to hand out ASBOs which don't really do anything, besides rewarding yob culture with a badge of honor.mattyftm

I certainly have nothing to hide from CCTV cameras but i still dont like them. I want to walk around with out feeling like someone is watching me, waiting for me to do something wrong so they can pounce on me. They don't make me feel any safer either, they don't seem to be much of a deterrent to people who are determined to commit crimes

I think the mosquito thing is a good idea, and people who disagree with it are being a bit silly... saying this device "isnt fair" is stupid, the people (generally teens) vandalising the area arent being fair either.skinnypete91

[QUOTE="skinnypete91"]I think the mosquito thing is a good idea, and people who disagree with it are being a bit silly... saying this device "isnt fair" is stupid, the people (generally teens) vandalising the area arent being fair either.horgen123

The people who were saying it is not fair were referring to the feeling of discomfort caused by the device. I think they are wrong by saying this, because the culprits are intimidating and scaring locals.

Obviously they should avoid targeting innocent youths but that is not always possible, police do the same thing. I have been told to move away from an area because other people of a similar age to me are misbehaving, even though I am not actually with those people.

[QUOTE="horgen123"][QUOTE="skinnypete91"]I think the mosquito thing is a good idea, and people who disagree with it are being a bit silly... saying this device "isnt fair" is stupid, the people (generally teens) vandalising the area arent being fair either.skinnypete91

The people who were saying it is not fair were referring to the feeling of discomfort caused by the device. I think they are wrong by saying this, because the culprits are intimidating and scaring locals.

Obviously they should avoid targeting innocent youths but that is not always possible, police do the same thing. I have been told to move away from an area because other people of a similar age to me are misbehaving, even though I am not actually with those people.

But that is the problem with the mosquito it cant target certain individuals, besides a 34 year old has said he can hear it. People will find a way around it or just ignore it altogether.

But what about people who are under 25 and not yobs? I mean if they place it near stores then we're not going to be able to get in because of it LOL

It seems like an ok idea,it just means they will migrate to another place though,so solve one problem create another,i think the government should just put all yobs in the army,that will sort them out once and for all.

But what about people who are under 25 and not yobs? I mean if they place it near stores then we're not going to be able to get in because of it LOL

It seems like an ok idea,it just means they will migrate to another place though,so solve one problem create another,i think the government should just put all yobs in the army,that will sort them out once and for all.

blacktorn

I don't really see how giving yobs training on how to kill and handing them guns will help in anyway? Other than making less of them.

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But what about people who are under 25 and not yobs? I mean if they place it near stores then we're not going to be able to get in because of it LOL

It seems like an ok idea,it just means they will migrate to another place though,so solve one problem create another,i think the government should just put all yobs in the army,that will sort them out once and for all.

braindead_hero

I don't really see how giving yobs training on how to kill and handing them guns will help in anyway? Other than making less of them.

Bit more to the army than that,it teaches them self-discipline more than anything.

[QUOTE="horgen123"][QUOTE="skinnypete91"]I think the mosquito thing is a good idea, and people who disagree with it are being a bit silly... saying this device "isnt fair" is stupid, the people (generally teens) vandalising the area arent being fair either.skinnypete91

The people who were saying it is not fair were referring to the feeling of discomfort caused by the device. I think they are wrong by saying this, because the culprits are intimidating and scaring locals.

Obviously they should avoid targeting innocent youths but that is not always possible, police do the same thing. I have been told to move away from an area because other people of a similar age to me are misbehaving, even though I am not actually with those people.