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#1 Jaysonguy
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I'm shocked at how many people take someone's allegiance to the Republicans or Democrats so lightly.

The idea that we can all agree to disagree is wrong

These people are trying to change your country in a way you don't want. Yet people actually associate with family members who vote against them, and friends? These people actually have friends that do not vote the way they do.

It's horrible how lightly this is taken.

After next Tuesday there will be people who's idea for America was squashed by others. Think about that, they saw what you want America to be and they said no. And at the end of the day you're going to associate with these people?

I wish more people would wake up and understand that people are either with you or they're against you, there is no middle ground.

It's not like all voters are in government and need to reach across party lines. You have no need to associate with people who do not see your vision for America. Your main job is to cultivate as many people as possible so your dream of America is realized.

People are going to go to family get togethers over this holiday and break bread with people who personally stopped them from helping America.

EDIT: I'm not talking about not supporting the president. I'm talking about cutting everyone out of your life who does not share the same political affiliations you do

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#2 MattUD1
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I hate Palin and want her nowhere near the White House. Happy? Enough hate for you?
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#3 Kuhu
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This topic is going to be good...
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#4 comp_atkins
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because we're all still americans.

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#5 dave123321
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I demand anarchy. Let us go to the streets , let us destroy the hearts of those that mock us. DIE! DIE! DIE!
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#6 TenP
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I get angry at the people I disagree with occasionally, but it's nothing personal.
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#7 Jaysonguy
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because we're all still americans.

comp_atkins

Yes

With two completely different views on how it should go forward.

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#8 MattUD1
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[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]

because we're all still americans.

Jaysonguy

Yes

With two completely different views on how it should go forward.

And yet we haven't had many periods in history where groups of people take drastic action as soon as a new president sworn in. The only exception is 1861.
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#9 deactivated-5901ac91d8e33
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The two parties are too similar for anything like that to happen.
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#11 comp_atkins
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[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]

because we're all still americans.

Jaysonguy

Yes

With two completely different views on how it should go forward.

i think the majority of people, both republicans and democrats are moderates. in the long run the country is always going to walk a path down the center. it'll leave left or lean right for periods of time but always swings back towards the middle.

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#12 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"]

because we're all still americans.

MattUD1

Yes

With two completely different views on how it should go forward.

And yet we haven't had many periods in history where groups of people take drastic action as soon as a new president sworn in. The only exception is 1861.

What drastic action?

Not talking to your grandparents anymore? Breaking off bonds with a few friends?

That's so hard?

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#13 MattUD1
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[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"]

because we're all still americans.

Jaysonguy

Yes

With two completely different views on how it should go forward.

And yet we haven't had many periods in history where groups of people take drastic action as soon as a new president sworn in. The only exception is 1861.

What drastic action?

Not talking to your grandparents anymore? Breaking off bonds with a few friends?

That's so hard?

Seriously, did you not see the date?
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#14 yucky_straw
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[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"]

because we're all still americans.

Jaysonguy

Yes

With two completely different views on how it should go forward.

And yet we haven't had many periods in history where groups of people take drastic action as soon as a new president sworn in. The only exception is 1861.

What drastic action?

Not talking to your grandparents anymore? Breaking off bonds with a few friends?

That's so hard?

Hard? No. Stupid? Yes.

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#15 Sunsha
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I hate how the people in my area are so simple and closed minded. They're all like "omg Obama is a Muslim!" Which apparently is scary or something...because religion certainly affects how well you can be president.
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#16 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"]

because we're all still americans.

MattUD1

Yes

With two completely different views on how it should go forward.

And yet we haven't had many periods in history where groups of people take drastic action as soon as a new president sworn in. The only exception is 1861.

What drastic action?

Not talking to your grandparents anymore? Breaking off bonds with a few friends?

That's so hard?

Seriously, did you not see the date?

Yeah........you're going to have to elaborate a bit

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#17 Ninja-Hippo
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There's a principle in America of "i didnt vote for him, but he's my president and i support him". The idea is that once the election is over, you put your preferences aside and support the president. Otherwise nothing would ever get done amongst a sea of disagreement and resentment.

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#18 Jaysonguy
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There's a principle in America of "i didnt vote for him, but he's my president and i support him". The idea is that once the election is over, you put your preferences aside and support the president. Otherwise nothing would ever get done amongst a sea of disagreement and resentment.

Ninja-Hippo

Great, I'm not talking about supporting the president.

I'm talking about distancing yourself from all that voted for him.

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#19 duxup
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I think your understanding about how democracy and the government works is a bit off the mark. It is never winner take all in terms of who governs and enforcing their will.
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#20 Ninja-Hippo
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

There's a principle in America of "i didnt vote for him, but he's my president and i support him". The idea is that once the election is over, you put your preferences aside and support the president. Otherwise nothing would ever get done amongst a sea of disagreement and resentment.

Jaysonguy

Great, I'm not talking about supporting the president.

I'm talking about distancing yourself from all that voted for him.

I think you completely missed the point, to be honest. The idea is that it doesnt matter who you voted for any more; a president has been elected and everyone is expected to put their partisan bias aside.

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#21 Patatopan
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You should never hate people for their beliefs, hell, you should never hate anyone in the first place.
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#22 tocklestein2005
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'Even if I disagree with you, I will listen to you.' - Barack Obama

Just because someone doesn't agree w/ my political decision doesn't mean I should hate them. That is the stupidest thing I've ever read on here.

Isn't there enough f***ing hate in this world?!

Learn to respect other people's opinions, you dumb f***.

yucky_straw

yea, what he said.

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#23 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Jay you do know this line of thought is a Fascism at its finest? This was the platform to Hitler that your either with us or against us.
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#24 Engrish_Major
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It is probably beneficial to have people around you that think a different way than you do. Even Kennedy had Republicans around him. Would you rather a president only work with a bunch of yes-men? (kind of like the current one)
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#25 Ninja-Hippo
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The last line of yucky_straw's post = epic irony. :P
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#26 GabuEx
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I think your understanding about how democracy and the government works is a bit off the mark. It is never winner take all in terms of who governs and enforcing their will. duxup

I think this whole topic is pure facetiousness. :P

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#27 duxup
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[QUOTE="duxup"]I think your understanding about how democracy and the government works is a bit off the mark. It is never winner take all in terms of who governs and enforcing their will. GabuEx

I think this whole topic is pure facetiousness. :P

The lack of association with a particular party leads me to believe so, at least I hope so, but you never know these days...

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#28 LosDaddie
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Jay you do know this line of thought is a Fascism at its finest? This was the platform to Hitler that your either with us or against us.sSubZerOo

I thought you were referring to GWB with that "your either with us or against us" line.

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] Jay you do know this line of thought is a Fascism at its finest? This was the platform to Hitler that your either with us or against us.LosDaddie

I thought you were referring to GWB with that "your either with us or against us" line.

Well it is.. The recent republican party has basically imposed fascist thought in the ideas of "patriotism" is never to be critical to the government or you country. That if you are, you are infact a tratior, coward etc etc.. This guys logic in the beginning is just that, and if we were to go down that path, it would destroy the United States as we know it.

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#30 sieg6529
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Something I hate during this election? The distortion of facts from both sides. Obama wanting kindergardners to learn about sex ed, or McCain wanting to throw all the immigrants out. It's all a bunch of crap. Neither of these guys will deliver on half of the things they've promised, and they will probably end up doing only what is necessary to be re-elected in 2012. I've already voted, but it was (once again) for the candidate with whom I disagree the least.
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#31 GTZ2k3
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I hate Presidential election years because everyone becomes obsessed with one figure head position while countless corrupt senators and representatives get free passes because our media doesn't think they'll draw in viewers. I bet most Americans can't even name the senators and reps their district voted in.

Also, they agree on most topics any way. I want a candidate that says he intends to screw the economy further and increase American military policing (overtly, not through stupid policy). There's a unique candidate!

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I'm glad Hitler came up.

So if Hitler was going up against someone else you'd be ok for everyone that voted for Hitler?

At the Thanksgiving day table you'd lean over and say "Could you pass the corn? Oh and it's ok you voted for Hitler in the last election Uncle Jim, I'm sure my friend Fred Menglestein would think so too if he wasn't killed"

The idea that friends and family can be so opposite to your views and then you associate with them in crazy.

It's not like all voters work in the government. A few people who vote also are in Congress or the Senate. THEY have an excuse, everyone else does not.

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I'm glad Hitler came up.

So if Hitler was going up against someone else you'd be ok for everyone that voted for Hitler?

At the Thanksgiving day table you'd lean over and say "Could you pass the corn? Oh and it's ok you voted for Hitler in the last election Uncle Jim, I'm sure my friend Fred Menglestein would think so too if he wasn't killed"

The idea that friends and family can be so opposite to your views and then you associate with them in crazy.

It's not like all voters work in the government. A few people who vote also are in Congress or the Senate. THEY have an excuse, everyone else does not.

Jaysonguy

You have no clue what your talking about :| Hitler was a direct product from fascism the very thought your trying to defend.. Hitler killed every one who disagreed with him :| .. Perhapes you should read up on history before you make your self completely ignorant.

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#34 Jaysonguy
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I'm glad Hitler came up.

So if Hitler was going up against someone else you'd be ok for everyone that voted for Hitler?

At the Thanksgiving day table you'd lean over and say "Could you pass the corn? Oh and it's ok you voted for Hitler in the last election Uncle Jim, I'm sure my friend Fred Menglestein would think so too if he wasn't killed"

The idea that friends and family can be so opposite to your views and then you associate with them in crazy.

It's not like all voters work in the government. A few people who vote also are in Congress or the Senate. THEY have an excuse, everyone else does not.

sSubZerOo

You have no clue what your talking about :| Hitler was a direct product from fascism the very thought your trying to defend.. Hitler killed every one who disagreed with him :| .. Perhapes you should read up on history before you make your self completely ignorant.

So you'd be ok with people who voted for Hitler (There should be a question mark here but it's not showing up lol)

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

I'm glad Hitler came up.

So if Hitler was going up against someone else you'd be ok for everyone that voted for Hitler?

At the Thanksgiving day table you'd lean over and say "Could you pass the corn? Oh and it's ok you voted for Hitler in the last election Uncle Jim, I'm sure my friend Fred Menglestein would think so too if he wasn't killed"

The idea that friends and family can be so opposite to your views and then you associate with them in crazy.

It's not like all voters work in the government. A few people who vote also are in Congress or the Senate. THEY have an excuse, everyone else does not.

Jaysonguy

You have no clue what your talking about :| Hitler was a direct product from fascism the very thought your trying to defend.. Hitler killed every one who disagreed with him :| .. Perhapes you should read up on history before you make your self completely ignorant.

So you'd be ok with people who voted for Hitler

Hitler is a extreme case, you are actually suggesting that you should disassociate your self among other things with people you have political disagreements for. Furthermore Hitler on his voting base was popular not because his anti semetism or other such rhetoric, but people felt he would bring back the former glory of the German empire, which was in deep depression.. Due to not just depression during that time, but the treaty of Versailes which made them bankrupt.

But the point of the matter is your strategy is unamerican, your philosophy is fasicst.

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#36 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

I'm glad Hitler came up.

So if Hitler was going up against someone else you'd be ok for everyone that voted for Hitler?

At the Thanksgiving day table you'd lean over and say "Could you pass the corn? Oh and it's ok you voted for Hitler in the last election Uncle Jim, I'm sure my friend Fred Menglestein would think so too if he wasn't killed"

The idea that friends and family can be so opposite to your views and then you associate with them in crazy.

It's not like all voters work in the government. A few people who vote also are in Congress or the Senate. THEY have an excuse, everyone else does not.

sSubZerOo

You have no clue what your talking about :| Hitler was a direct product from fascism the very thought your trying to defend.. Hitler killed every one who disagreed with him :| .. Perhapes you should read up on history before you make your self completely ignorant.

So you'd be ok with people who voted for Hitler

Hitler is a extreme case, you are actually suggesting that you should disassociate your self among other things with people you have political disagreements for. Furthermore Hitler on his voting base was popular not because his anti semetism or other such rhetoric, but people felt he would bring back the former glory of the German empire, which was in deep depression.. Due to not just depression during that time, but the treaty of Versailes which made them bankrupt.

But the point of the matter is your strategy is unamerican, your philosophy is fasicst.

Oh I see, you'd do what I'm saying but only if it bothers you enough.

So you'll just cherry pick back and forth?

Now would these rules apply to all or would it be to each person to pick a course?

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

I'm glad Hitler came up.

So if Hitler was going up against someone else you'd be ok for everyone that voted for Hitler?

At the Thanksgiving day table you'd lean over and say "Could you pass the corn? Oh and it's ok you voted for Hitler in the last election Uncle Jim, I'm sure my friend Fred Menglestein would think so too if he wasn't killed"

The idea that friends and family can be so opposite to your views and then you associate with them in crazy.

It's not like all voters work in the government. A few people who vote also are in Congress or the Senate. THEY have an excuse, everyone else does not.

Jaysonguy

You have no clue what your talking about :| Hitler was a direct product from fascism the very thought your trying to defend.. Hitler killed every one who disagreed with him :| .. Perhapes you should read up on history before you make your self completely ignorant.

So you'd be ok with people who voted for Hitler

Hitler is a extreme case, you are actually suggesting that you should disassociate your self among other things with people you have political disagreements for. Furthermore Hitler on his voting base was popular not because his anti semetism or other such rhetoric, but people felt he would bring back the former glory of the German empire, which was in deep depression.. Due to not just depression during that time, but the treaty of Versailes which made them bankrupt.

But the point of the matter is your strategy is unamerican, your philosophy is fasicst.

Oh I see, you'd do what I'm saying but only if it bothers you enough.

So you'll just cherry pick back and forth?

Now would these rules apply to all or would it be to each person to pick a course?

What are you talking about? The reason why Hitler is so extreme is on hindsight he seemed to have murdered millions of people in the holocaust.. Cherry picking? Of course your cherry pick, life isn't simplistic, maybe if you actually read history you would realize this. Your views are simplistic and fascist, what you are suggesting though is some one who is repulican should not associatie with democrats.. It has nothing to do with Hitler having a difference in my views, its the fact that his views were racist violent, went against free will etc etc.. Now if you can't understand this, I don't know what to say.. But I hope that the United States will never become your view, because it will be a corrupt country that does not allow free thought, and is facsist in nature.

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#38 domatron23
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I can't honestly tell if you're serious or if you're just a master of satire and sarcastic black humour.

I get that feeling a lot on this site.

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What are you talking about? The reason why Hitler is so extreme is on hindsight he seemed to have murdered millions of people in the holocaust.. Cherry picking? Of course your cherry pick, life isn't simplistic, maybe if you actually read history you would realize this. Your views are simplistic and fascist, what you are suggesting though is some one who is repulican should not associatie with democrats.. It has nothing to do with Hitler having a difference in my views, its the fact that his views were racist violent, went against free will etc etc.. Now if you can't understand this, I don't know what to say.. But I hope that the United States will never become your view, because it will be a corrupt country that does not allow free thought, and is facsist in nature.

sSubZerOo

So I was right, there is a line that you have before you will not associate with voters. So you back up what I'm saying exactly.

Thank you for supporting my point, took a bit of posts to do it but I'm glad for the support.

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#40 domatron23
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

What are you talking about? The reason why Hitler is so extreme is on hindsight he seemed to have murdered millions of people in the holocaust.. Cherry picking? Of course your cherry pick, life isn't simplistic, maybe if you actually read history you would realize this. Your views are simplistic and fascist, what you are suggesting though is some one who is repulican should not associatie with democrats.. It has nothing to do with Hitler having a difference in my views, its the fact that his views were racist violent, went against free will etc etc.. Now if you can't understand this, I don't know what to say.. But I hope that the United States will never become your view, because it will be a corrupt country that does not allow free thought, and is facsist in nature.

Jaysonguy

So I was right, there is a line that you have before you will not associate with voters. So you back up what I'm saying exactly.

Thank you for supporting my point, took a bit of posts to do it but I'm glad for the support.

And how does that line apply to this particular election?

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

What are you talking about? The reason why Hitler is so extreme is on hindsight he seemed to have murdered millions of people in the holocaust.. Cherry picking? Of course your cherry pick, life isn't simplistic, maybe if you actually read history you would realize this. Your views are simplistic and fascist, what you are suggesting though is some one who is repulican should not associatie with democrats.. It has nothing to do with Hitler having a difference in my views, its the fact that his views were racist violent, went against free will etc etc.. Now if you can't understand this, I don't know what to say.. But I hope that the United States will never become your view, because it will be a corrupt country that does not allow free thought, and is facsist in nature.

Jaysonguy

So I was right, there is a line that you have before you will not associate with voters. So you back up what I'm saying exactly.

Thank you for supporting my point, took a bit of posts to do it but I'm glad for the support.

You have no clue whatyour talking about.. You are suggesting disassiociation with people who have the slightest difference in views then you such as presidential canidate.. This leads to fasicsm.. Hitler violated human rights, murdered millions of people, tortured, and did other heinous thing.. This is ALITTLE bit more ofa difference then having a disagreement with taxes.. Perhapes you should read in philosophy and realize you are using fallacies left and right..

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#42 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

What are you talking about? The reason why Hitler is so extreme is on hindsight he seemed to have murdered millions of people in the holocaust.. Cherry picking? Of course your cherry pick, life isn't simplistic, maybe if you actually read history you would realize this. Your views are simplistic and fascist, what you are suggesting though is some one who is repulican should not associatie with democrats.. It has nothing to do with Hitler having a difference in my views, its the fact that his views were racist violent, went against free will etc etc.. Now if you can't understand this, I don't know what to say.. But I hope that the United States will never become your view, because it will be a corrupt country that does not allow free thought, and is facsist in nature.

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So I was right, there is a line that you have before you will not associate with voters. So you back up what I'm saying exactly.

Thank you for supporting my point, took a bit of posts to do it but I'm glad for the support.

And how does that line apply to this particular election?

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#43 surferdude17
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The great things about America is when times are tough we come together. If some voted for Obama and some voted for McCain, but there is a major disaster we will come together.
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#44 jlh47
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

I'm glad Hitler came up.

So if Hitler was going up against someone else you'd be ok for everyone that voted for Hitler?

At the Thanksgiving day table you'd lean over and say "Could you pass the corn? Oh and it's ok you voted for Hitler in the last election Uncle Jim, I'm sure my friend Fred Menglestein would think so too if he wasn't killed"

The idea that friends and family can be so opposite to your views and then you associate with them in crazy.

It's not like all voters work in the government. A few people who vote also are in Congress or the Senate. THEY have an excuse, everyone else does not.

Jaysonguy

You have no clue what your talking about :| Hitler was a direct product from fascism the very thought your trying to defend.. Hitler killed every one who disagreed with him :| .. Perhapes you should read up on history before you make your self completely ignorant.

So you'd be ok with people who voted for Hitler (There should be a question mark here but it's not showing up lol)

hitler didn't show his true reasons until after the election...

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#45 HardQuor
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Please don't feed the troll.
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#46 deepdreamer256
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I'm shocked at how many people take someone's allegiance to the Republicans or Democrats so lightly.

The idea that we can all agree to disagree is wrong

These people are trying to change your country in a way you don't want. Yet people actually associate with family members who vote against them, and friends? These people actually have friends that do not vote the way they do.

It's horrible how lightly this is taken.

After next Tuesday there will be people who's idea for America was squashed by others. Think about that, they saw what you want America to be and they said no. And at the end of the day you're going to associate with these people?

I wish more people would wake up and understand that people are either with you or they're against you, there is no middle ground.

It's not like all voters are in government and need to reach across party lines. You have no need to associate with people who do not see your vision for America. Your main job is to cultivate as many people as possible so your dream of America is realized.

People are going to go to family get togethers over this holiday and break bread with people who personally stopped them from helping America.

EDIT: I'm not talking about not supporting the president. I'm talking about cutting everyone out of your life who does not share the same political affiliations you do

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#47 AlphaRail
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Just because you disagree with someone on one thing doesnt mean you shouldn't be friends with them, and that's what they think is best for the country, and if they are right great for them, if you're right, good for you. This is as rediculous as saying you shouldn't be friends with someone out of your religion...
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#49 GamerBoy53
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Cutting all of your friends out of your life won't make a difference. The president will still be the idiot you hate and now you are lonely.
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#50 Theokhoth
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Three cheers for widespread bipartisan bickering that won't ever get us anywhere except on the streets after the government takes away our homes while we fight about who's better! Hip-hip--*House gets stolen*