You must prove that God exists... (year old thread please LOCK)

It is a common misconception that atheists must be able to prove that God does not exist. Actually, the burden falls on religious persons to prove that God does exist, for the simple reason that, if you claim ANYTHING to exist, then you must be able to prove its existence.

If any religious person disagrees with this, then we establish that the burden is on people to disprove something's existence. Therefore, I claim: that there are UFOs with aliens in them; that there is a Death Star in a far-away galaxy; that Darth Vader himself came to visit me, and then left; that there is a flying spaghetti monster; that the ancient Greek gods (i.e. Zeus, Hera, etc.) exist; that the ancient Egyptian gods exist; that the Norse gods exist; that I can use 'the force' (by the way, don't say that you can just ask me to do it, and my refusal is proof--I might just not feel like it ;)); that I am a god (same logic as with 'the force'); and that I know how to build a Death Star.

Now, disprove that 8). If you can't, then it's true 8).

EDIT: This thread is over a year old and has been bumped. Moderators, please lock it.

Impossible to prove a negative.

The bible contradcits itself hundreds of times.And it doesnt count as evidence...but if we are to beleive it is the word of God.Looks like he is incompetent and a megalomaniac that condones rape,genocide and slavery.

The bible is one proof...Steameffekt

No, that's circular reasoning-using the so-called 'word of God' to prove God's existence. I'm sorry, but The Bible proves nothing.

It's impossible to prove evolution that we came from monkeys so this thread fails.

It's impossible to prove evolution that we came from monkeys so this thread fails.

ScreamDream

It's impossible to prove evolution that we came from monkeys so this thread fails.

ScreamDream

Where in this thread to I mention evolution, and how does that tie into the existence of God? I'm sorry, but your reasoning fails.

[QUOTE="ScreamDream"]

It's impossible to prove evolution that we came from monkeys so this thread fails.

chessmaster1989

Where in this thread to I mention evolution, and how does that tie into the existence of God? I'm sorry, but your reasoning fails.

Then what do you believe in Chessmaster?

Burden of proof falls on whoever makes a claim about the existence or nonexistence of God.MattUD1

You cannot prove or disprove God.DrSponge

[QUOTE="DrSponge"]You cannot prove or disprove God.lucky326

It is a common misconception that atheists must be able to prove that God does not exist. Actually, the burden falls on religious persons to prove that God does exist, for the simple reason that, if you claim ANYTHING to exist, then you must be able to prove its existence.

If any religious person disagrees with this, then we establish that the burden is on people to disprove something's existence. Therefore, I claim: that there are UFOs with aliens in them; that there is a Death Star in a far-away galaxy; that Darth Vader himself came to visit me, and then left; that there is a flying spaghetti monster; that the ancient Greek gods (i.e. Zeus, Hera, etc.) exist; that the ancient Egyptian gods exist; that the Norse gods exist; that I can use 'the force' (by the way, don't say that you can just ask me to do it, and my refusal is proof--I might just not feel like it ;)); that I am a god (same logic as with 'the force'); and that I know how to build a Death Star.

Now, disprove that 8). If you can't, then it's true 8).

[QUOTE="DrSponge"]You cannot prove or disprove God.lucky326

The bible is one proof...Steameffekt

Since the Bible was written by man, this logic fails.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

It is a common misconception that atheists must be able to prove that God does not exist. Actually, the burden falls on religious persons to prove that God does exist, for the simple reason that, if you claim ANYTHING to exist, then you must be able to prove its existence.

If any religious person disagrees with this, then we establish that the burden is on people to disprove something's existence. Therefore, I claim: that there are UFOs with aliens in them; that there is a Death Star in a far-away galaxy; that Darth Vader himself came to visit me, and then left; that there is a flying spaghetti monster; that the ancient Greek gods (i.e. Zeus, Hera, etc.) exist; that the ancient Egyptian gods exist; that the Norse gods exist; that I can use 'the force' (by the way, don't say that you can just ask me to do it, and my refusal is proof--I might just not feel like it ;)); that I am a god (same logic as with 'the force'); and that I know how to build a Death Star.

Now, disprove that 8). If you can't, then it's true 8).

supa_badman

They were written by people, so they are not proof. I'm sorry, but you are the one who fails.

I don't believe that you can use the Bible as proof that God exist, also what cannot be proved cannot be disproved. Overrated_Hero

It is a common misconception that atheists must be able to prove that God does not exist. Actually, the burden falls on religious persons to prove that God does exist, for the simple reason that, if you claim ANYTHING to exist, then you must be able to prove its existence.

If any religious person disagrees with this, then we establish that the burden is on people to disprove something's existence. Therefore, I claim: that there are UFOs with aliens in them; that there is a Death Star in a far-away galaxy; that Darth Vader himself came to visit me, and then left; that there is a flying spaghetti monster; that the ancient Greek gods (i.e. Zeus, Hera, etc.) exist; that the ancient Egyptian gods exist; that the Norse gods exist; that I can use 'the force' (by the way, don't say that you can just ask me to do it, and my refusal is proof--I might just not feel like it ;)); that I am a god (same logic as with 'the force'); and that I know how to build a Death Star.

Now, disprove that 8). If you can't, then it's true 8).

They were written by people, so they are not proof. I'm sorry, but you are the one who fails.

Oh the irony. Seriously, again, why the need to change and/or challenge other's beliefs? Especially on a gaming site?Eddie5vs1

OT discussion is devoid of all things gaming related. Thus, religion is perfectly viable. We could be on a pron forum, but still discuss religion.

It is a common misconception that atheists must be able to prove that God does not exist. Actually, the burden falls on religious persons to prove that God does exist, for the simple reason that, if you claim ANYTHING to exist, then you must be able to prove its existence.

If any religious person disagrees with this, then we establish that the burden is on people to disprove something's existence. Therefore, I claim: that there are UFOs with aliens in them; that there is a Death Star in a far-away galaxy; that Darth Vader himself came to visit me, and then left; that there is a flying spaghetti monster; that the ancient Greek gods (i.e. Zeus, Hera, etc.) exist; that the ancient Egyptian gods exist; that the Norse gods exist; that I can use 'the force' (by the way, don't say that you can just ask me to do it, and my refusal is proof--I might just not feel like it ;)); that I am a god (same logic as with 'the force'); and that I know how to build a Death Star.

Now, disprove that 8). If you can't, then it's true 8).

They were written by people, so they are not proof. I'm sorry, but you are the one who fails.

[QUOTE="Steameffekt"]The bible is one proof...chessmaster1989

No, that's circular reasoning-using the so-called 'word of God' to prove God's existence. I'm sorry, but The Bible proves nothing.

It's impossible to prove evolution that we came from monkeys so this thread fails.

ScreamDream

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="supa_badman"] st thomas aquinas, st anselm, st augustine. read their books. you fail.supa_badman

They were written by people, so they are not proof. I'm sorry, but you are the one who fails.

Actually you do.

Fail.

i don't believe that wind has been scientifically explained, nor gravity, while they have theories explaining them they are not in fact, facts, therefore are they anyless real when the wind blows or i jump off a building?

[QUOTE="ScreamDream"]

It's impossible to prove evolution that we came from monkeys so this thread fails.

UNHOLY_basic

[QUOTE="Johnny_Rock"][QUOTE="supa_badman"] not unless you know how to read :roll: the books are proof :? the way they explain God, shows that God does exist. to show God exists, you dont really need solid living breathing proof.supa_badman

Actually you do.

Fail.

[QUOTE="supa_badman"][QUOTE="Johnny_Rock"]

Actually you do.

Fail.

AnObscureName

because that "chance" cannot be proven even with the estatic amount of technology and information about the universe till this date.

[QUOTE="Johnny_Rock"][QUOTE="supa_badman"] not unless you know how to read :roll: the books are proof :? the way they explain God, shows that God does exist. to show God exists, you dont really need solid living breathing proof.supa_badman

Actually you do.

Fail.

Little mind? Actually, honestly believing in fairytales and ghosts is far more pathetic than I ever could.

[QUOTE="AnObscureName"][QUOTE="supa_badman"] the world and the universe. if you think that all of this has happened by "chance" then that is a very little mind that you have.Disturbed123

because that "chance" cannot be proven even with the estatic amount of technology and information about the universe till this date.

It is a common misconception that atheists must be able to prove that God does not exist. Actually, the burden falls on religious persons to prove that God does exist, for the simple reason that, if you claim ANYTHING to exist, then you must be able to prove its existence.

If any religious person disagrees with this, then we establish that the burden is on people to disprove something's existence. Therefore, I claim: that there are UFOs with aliens in them; that there is a Death Star in a far-away galaxy; that Darth Vader himself came to visit me, and then left; that there is a flying spaghetti monster; that the ancient Greek gods (i.e. Zeus, Hera, etc.) exist; that the ancient Egyptian gods exist; that the Norse gods exist; that I can use 'the force' (by the way, don't say that you can just ask me to do it, and my refusal is proof--I might just not feel like it ;)); that I am a god (same logic as with 'the force'); and that I know how to build a Death Star.

Now, disprove that 8). If you can't, then it's true 8).

chessmaster1989

[QUOTE="Disturbed123"][QUOTE="AnObscureName"] Why could it not have been chance?AnObscureName

because that "chance" cannot be proven even with the estatic amount of technology and information about the universe till this date.

Nope, its entirely possible, but i personally believe that God existance is more persuasive than a bunch of particles forming the universe.

[QUOTE="AnObscureName"][QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

because that "chance" cannot be proven even with the estatic amount of technology and information about the universe till this date.

Disturbed123

Nope, its entirely possible, but i personally believe that God existance is more persuasive than a bunch of particles forming the universe.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

It is a common misconception that atheists must be able to prove that God does not exist. Actually, the burden falls on religious persons to prove that God does exist, for the simple reason that, if you claim ANYTHING to exist, then you must be able to prove its existence.

If any religious person disagrees with this, then we establish that the burden is on people to disprove something's existence. Therefore, I claim: that there are UFOs with aliens in them; that there is a Death Star in a far-away galaxy; that Darth Vader himself came to visit me, and then left; that there is a flying spaghetti monster; that the ancient Greek gods (i.e. Zeus, Hera, etc.) exist; that the ancient Egyptian gods exist; that the Norse gods exist; that I can use 'the force' (by the way, don't say that you can just ask me to do it, and my refusal is proof--I might just not feel like it ;)); that I am a god (same logic as with 'the force'); and that I know how to build a Death Star.

Now, disprove that 8). If you can't, then it's true 8).

Crushmaster

Are you actually being serious? why not step out that little religious bubble for a few months and realise how absolute ridiculous you sound.Im going to play your little game though...first of all jesus did not fulfill even one third of the prophecies in the OT..b) although evolution is nothing about abiogenesis...i think we can say adam and eve did not exist.And if they they did and were the first humasn created,when caine is thrown out the garden of eden this is shown to be false...woops another contradcition.Scholars in those times couldnt keep a good story going...nevermind the blatant copy and paste job they did...

[QUOTE="Disturbed123"][QUOTE="AnObscureName"] Why could it not have been chance?AnObscureName

because that "chance" cannot be proven even with the estatic amount of technology and information about the universe till this date.

You just supported the existance of God.

[QUOTE="AnObscureName"][QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

because that "chance" cannot be proven even with the estatic amount of technology and information about the universe till this date.

Johnny_Rock

You just supported the existance of God.