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#1 zpluffy
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You think it would make a difference if all police officers are required to have 4 year degree in criminal justice in terms of the quality they provide. We seen a lot of crook cops and as well as good cops that follows orders but violate our rights.

Please watch this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Ku17CqdZg

 

Do you think it would prevent things like this to happen?

And also, cops are allowed to lie almost about anything and get away with it.

If you can, try and expand you're answer besides typing down "no".

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#2 lostrib
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no

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Aren't "criminal justice" degrees one of those fake degrees that anyone can buy online from diploma mills?  I think we want less, not more of those.

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No. 

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#5 zpluffy
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pretty sure they check people's record in the computer. Diploma won't be enough

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I don't think a degree magically turns bad people into good people. I do think that we should be more selective and stop hiring people with obvious personality defects.
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#7 Necrifer
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Yes.

There would be less of them.

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#8 zpluffy
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Yes.

There would be less of them.

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considering the amount of responsibility police officers have, and the amount of power they wield over the people, hell yes I think they should have a four-year degree.

I understand cops are trained and most of my encounters with cops on and off duty have been positive, but there definitely seems to be a lack of critical thinking on their part at times.

While I do not consider a college degree a sign of intelligence outright, it is a sign of education, appreciation for culture, hard work, and different ideas.  I think cops would be more diplomatic and rational if they required a college degree.

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Please god i just want them to keep our streets safe
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considering the amount of responsibility police officers have, and the amount of power they wield over the people, hell yes I think they should have a four-year degree.

I understand cops are trained and most of my encounters with cops on and off duty have been positive, but there definitely seems to be a lack of critical thinking on their part at times.

While I do not consider a college degree a sign of intelligence outright, it is a sign of education, appreciation for culture, hard work, and different ideas.  I think cops would be more diplomatic and rational if they required a college degree.

mrbojangles25

No it isn't. As they say, C's get degrees

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#12 Squeets
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Aren't "criminal justice" degrees one of those fake degrees that anyone can buy online from diploma mills?  I think we want less, not more of those.

Oleg_Huzwog

No, any degree can be churned out from diploma mills.

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#13 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

considering the amount of responsibility police officers have, and the amount of power they wield over the people, hell yes I think they should have a four-year degree.

I understand cops are trained and most of my encounters with cops on and off duty have been positive, but there definitely seems to be a lack of critical thinking on their part at times.

While I do not consider a college degree a sign of intelligence outright, it is a sign of education, appreciation for culture, hard work, and different ideas.  I think cops would be more diplomatic and rational if they required a college degree.

lostrib

No it isn't. As they say, C's get degrees

You still need an understanding of the material to get a C in those kinds of courses.
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

Aren't "criminal justice" degrees one of those fake degrees that anyone can buy online from diploma mills?  I think we want less, not more of those.

Squeets

No, any degree can be churned out from diploma mills.

And that doesn't really mean anything. They can actually check if a degree comes from a diploma mill...
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[QUOTE="Squeets"]

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

Aren't "criminal justice" degrees one of those fake degrees that anyone can buy online from diploma mills?  I think we want less, not more of those.

PannicAtack

No, any degree can be churned out from diploma mills.

And that doesn't really mean anything. They can actually check if a degree comes from a diploma mill...

OK? I am not disputing that, I am disputing that Criminal Justice degrees are some useless "invented" degree from for-profit online schools.

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

considering the amount of responsibility police officers have, and the amount of power they wield over the people, hell yes I think they should have a four-year degree.

I understand cops are trained and most of my encounters with cops on and off duty have been positive, but there definitely seems to be a lack of critical thinking on their part at times.

While I do not consider a college degree a sign of intelligence outright, it is a sign of education, appreciation for culture, hard work, and different ideas.  I think cops would be more diplomatic and rational if they required a college degree.

PannicAtack

No it isn't. As they say, C's get degrees

You still need an understanding of the material to get a C in those kinds of courses.

Not a very good understanding, especially in curved classes

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#17 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="Squeets"]

No, any degree can be churned out from diploma mills.

Squeets

And that doesn't really mean anything. They can actually check if a degree comes from a diploma mill...

OK? I am not disputing that, I am disputing that Criminal Justice degrees are some useless "invented" degree from for-profit online schools.

Oh, I'm agreeing with you. Just adding a point about diploma mills.
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You think it would make a difference if all police officers are required to have 4 year degree in criminal justice in terms of the quality they provide. We seen a lot of crook cops and as well as good cops that follows orders but violate our rights.

Please watch this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Ku17CqdZg

Do you think it would prevent things like this to happen?

And also, cops are allowed to lie almost about anything and get away with it.

If you can, try and expand you're answer besides typing down "no".

zpluffy

I think you are missing something. This kid appears to go around looking to drive through checkpoints just to videotape himself supposedly standing up for his rights. While I do not know where exactly that checkpoint is, but there should have been a way to go a different route to avoid it.

One other thing, that was an ICE or Border Patrol agent and not a cop. 

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#20 zpluffy
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[QUOTE="zpluffy"]

You think it would make a difference if all police officers are required to have 4 year degree in criminal justice in terms of the quality they provide. We seen a lot of crook cops and as well as good cops that follows orders but violate our rights.

Please watch this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Ku17CqdZg

Do you think it would prevent things like this to happen?

And also, cops are allowed to lie almost about anything and get away with it.

If you can, try and expand you're answer besides typing down "no".

WhiteKnight77

I think you are missing something. This kid appears to go around looking to drive through checkpoints just to videotape himself supposedly standing up for his rights. While I do not know where exactly that checkpoint is, but there should have been a way to go a different route to avoid it.

One other thing, that was an ICE or Border Patrol agent and not a cop.

I don't entirely agree with the way those people act: filming and purposely being an a*hole. But I'm currently disputing this topic with somebody else and he thinks that by providing a 4 year degree with these ICE or Border Patrol agents, it would help minimize these conflicts of supposely taking American's rights away by asking questions, asking for search, and handling these types of people.

For me on the other hand, I believe that even though officers knew about the law, even with proper degree, they would still do what their doing because it's their SOP(Standard Operating Procedure). I just want to see what other people like gamers think about this topic.

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#21 outworld222
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There isn't any correlation between violating rights less, and earning a 4 year degree. Intent and motive is still intent and motive.

 

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#22 cain006
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I don't think they should be required to have a degree. Military service for example should be able to replace it.

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You think it would make a difference if all police officers are required to have 4 year degree in criminal justice in terms of the quality they provide. We seen a lot of crook cops and as well as good cops that follows orders but violate our rights.

Please watch this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Ku17CqdZg

 

Do you think it would prevent things like this to happen?

And also, cops are allowed to lie almost about anything and get away with it.

If you can, try and expand you're answer besides typing down "no".

zpluffy

No. Why?

Because you need a lot of policemen. The only way this would work is if you would raise their salaries like 10 times over, because that's the only way anyone with actual law degree would want to work in police.

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#24 Ne-Plus-Ultra
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If they could afford a four year degree, then they probably wouldn't become cops.

But after they become cops they can raise plenty of funds for a degree. Back in the day, when I lived in Florida, all the best drug smugglers were cops, and from the look of things, business is still in high demand.

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considering the amount of responsibility police officers have, and the amount of power they wield over the people, hell yes I think they should have a four-year degree.

I understand cops are trained and most of my encounters with cops on and off duty have been positive, but there definitely seems to be a lack of critical thinking on their part at times.

While I do not consider a college degree a sign of intelligence outright, it is a sign of education, appreciation for culture, hard work, and different ideas.  I think cops would be more diplomatic and rational if they required a college degree.

mrbojangles25

So my experience as a police officer in the military should be meaningless?

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#26 UnknownSniper65
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Most places already require a 2 year degree or an honorable discharge from the military. I don't think it would make all that much of a difference. Police Officers are becoming more professional as time goes on. Many of the guys who were hired without any college or military experience are starting to retire. I would say within the next ten to twenty years four year degrees/military service will become the norm for police officers. 

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I don't think a degree magically turns bad people into good people. I do think that we should be more selective and stop hiring people with obvious personality defects.DaBrainz
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#28 Blueresident87
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It would make no difference at all

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That would be pointless.