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#1 Ghost120x
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I don't know much about karma so correct me if I'm wrong.

So if you do bad things, bad things will happen to you? But I believe life itself is full of random good days and bad days, so how do you know if something bad happened to you was a result of karma or was it just a typical random bad day you had.

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#2 CRS98
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Karma only exists to people who believe in it. They interpret the actions and forthcoming and call it karma.
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#3 dracula_16
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I think karma has more to do with how others treat you-- it doesn't protect you from spontaneously bad situations. If I think about rainbows and butterflies, will that prevent my house from being broken into? of course not. If I'm polite and considerate of others, I do believe that others will return the favor. In a general sense of the word, I think karma has some truth in it.

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#4 worlock77
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Quite possibly the most misunderstood concept in the world. The world "karma" simply means "action". It's not some mystical judicial force supernaturally dishing out punishments and rewards, it's quite simply the very natural concept of cause and effect. If you act like a dick people will treat you like a dick. That's karma. Orchestrate an attack that kills thousands of people and you get hunted down and shot like a rabid dog. That's karma. Find somebody's wallet, return it with all contents in tact and they reward you with the $50 that was in the wallet for your honesty. That's karma.

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#5 cheese_game619
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It's no different than praying and believing that does something or dancing around your campfire singing songs and clapping sticks. Then they all wonder why bad things happen to good people and vice versa. Actions have consequences and bad and good things will happen to everyone. It doesn't even out.
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#6 ChampionoChumps
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As for the common Westerners belief in karma, it is but a placebo effect. As for the traditional belief of karma, it is completely true and valid. Treat others like you would like to be treated, that's the same thing but in Western culture.
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#7 XilePrincess
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If you do bad things, bad things WILL happen to you, but likely not because of 'karma', but because of who you are as a person. Eg: Person is a huge d-bag to everyone, treats people like crap and acts like an arrogant ass. Eventually all the people he treated badly no longer wanted to be around him, and now he spends all of his time alone because he has no friends. Is that karma? No. It's the inevitable coming back to bite you. Do unto others is certainly real, if you treat people nicely you will likely be treated nicely in return. If you don't, well... Helping grandmas across the street and volunteering with the orphans and the sickly will not make you immune to cancer or aids. Not poking fun at teenage preggos will not make you immune to a whoopsababy. And if you beat your wife on a regular basis, it is not guaranteed that you'll die in an excruciatingly painful accident.
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#8 worlock77
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If you do bad things, bad things WILL happen to you, but likely not because of 'karma', but because of who you are as a person. Eg: Person is a huge d-bag to everyone, treats people like crap and acts like an arrogant ass. Eventually all the people he treated badly no longer wanted to be around him, and now he spends all of his time alone because he has no friends. Is that karma? No. It's the inevitable coming back to bite you. Do unto others is certainly real, if you treat people nicely you will likely be treated nicely in return. If you don't, well... Helping grandmas across the street and volunteering with the orphans and the sickly will not make you immune to cancer or aids. Not poking fun at teenage preggos will not make you immune to a whoopsababy. And if you beat your wife on a regular basis, it is not guaranteed that you'll die in an excruciatingly painful accident.XilePrincess

Actually that is karma. That is exactly what karma is.

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#9 Bloodseeker23
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It does not exist.
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Whats their to think or say? She's a *****.
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#11 stevoqwerty
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If you believe in karma, it'll happen to you. Don't believe it? Then you won't think of things that happened to you as result of karma.

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#12 XilePrincess
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Actually that is karma. That is exactly what karma is.

worlock77
Well, yes, but no as well. The Do Unto Others thing is, but if you kicked sand in your brother's eyes when you were a kid and told him santa wasn't real, that's not the reason you have kidney stones. The westernized use of the word "karma" seems to always lean towards somebody saying because you did ____, a completely unrelated event happened to you that is bad, when in reality it's more like if you beat a guy to death, you go to jail. Bad things happen when you do bad things, but related bad things, not random crap like people seem to like using the word karma to describe.
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#13 ChampionoChumps
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This thread is further proof of the misinformation of karma. People should seriously learn about things before they refute them. I think worlock, dracula, and myself are the only ones who actually know what it is :lol:

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#14 krunkmastax
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Karma is what you put out....you get back. XilePrincess basically described it in part in her first post.
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#15 pygmahia5
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Karma only exists to people who believe in it. They interpret the actions and forthcoming and call it karma.CRS98
couldn't agree more!
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#16 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Actually that is karma. That is exactly what karma is.

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Well, yes, but no as well. The Do Unto Others thing is, but if you kicked sand in your brother's eyes when you were a kid and told him santa wasn't real, that's not the reason you have kidney stones. The westernized use of the word "karma" seems to always lean towards somebody saying because you did ____, a completely unrelated event happened to you that is bad, when in reality it's more like if you beat a guy to death, you go to jail. Bad things happen when you do bad things, but related bad things, not random crap like people seem to like using the word karma to describe.

The example you cite there demonstrates your utter lack of understanding of the term. And it's funny how you're disagreeing with me about it, when I've describes precisely the cause-and-effect concept that you say exists instead of karma. Karma is cause-and-effect.

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#17 Deihjan
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I definitely believe that you get what you deserve, whether it be karma or something different. Sometimes life is unfair, but then there are days where everything goes just the way you want it to, everyone notices you, your hair is fabulous and your skin flawless. Those days make me think that life has so much more than what we understand.
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#18 cheese_game619
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[QUOTE="XilePrincess"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Actually that is karma. That is exactly what karma is.

worlock77

Well, yes, but no as well. The Do Unto Others thing is, but if you kicked sand in your brother's eyes when you were a kid and told him santa wasn't real, that's not the reason you have kidney stones. The westernized use of the word "karma" seems to always lean towards somebody saying because you did ____, a completely unrelated event happened to you that is bad, when in reality it's more like if you beat a guy to death, you go to jail. Bad things happen when you do bad things, but related bad things, not random crap like people seem to like using the word karma to describe.

The example you cite there demonstrates your utter lack of understanding of the term. And it's funny how you're disagreeing with me about it, when I've describes precisely the cause-and-effect concept that you say exists instead of karma. Karma is cause-and-effect.

Guy has a Buddhist statue for an avatar, I think he knows his ****.

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#19 CreasianDevaili
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Karma exist for the people who think the good things that they do attract good people/things to them over time. It also exists to the people who do not have enough for that cup of coffee AND skin mag from the newstand but watch some guy steal a ladies purse. Doing good things can attract the wrong people and get you killed and stealing a purse might land you money to take someone on a date, leading to wonderful years of happiness.
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#20 Ghost120x
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Thanks for the info. Now I am informed and slightly less ignorant when it comes to karma.

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#21 Overlord93
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Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't the popular interpretation of karma incorrect? I heard it somewhere. Anyway, I don't know enough about it really. Only what I've learnt from My Name is Earl....and I have my doubts that that interpretation is particularly accurate >_>
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#23 worlock77
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Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't the popular interpretation of karma incorrect? I heard it somewhere. Anyway, I don't know enough about it really. Only what I've learnt from My Name is Earl....and I have my doubts that that interpretation is particularly accurate >_>Overlord93

Yes, as I've explained in this thread.

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#24 Overlord93
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[QUOTE="Overlord93"]Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't the popular interpretation of karma incorrect? I heard it somewhere. Anyway, I don't know enough about it really. Only what I've learnt from My Name is Earl....and I have my doubts that that interpretation is particularly accurate >_>worlock77

Yes, as I've explained in this thread.

Yeah I read that, it makes a lot more sense, and seems like a much more understandable concept than the popular interpretation.
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#25 jimmyjammer69
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I think Xile about nailed it.

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#26 VaguelyTagged
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so how karma explains the fact that chicks get attracted to those who treat them bad or simply d-bags.

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#27 punkpunker
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i belive the 'my name is earl' type karma.

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#28 Inger1
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I wish karma existed but I know from personal experience that it doesn't.

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#29 theone86
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I don't know much about karma so correct me if I'm wrong.

So if you do bad things, bad things will happen to you? But I believe life itself is full of random good days and bad days, so how do you know if something bad happened to you was a result of karma or was it just a typical random bad day you had.

Thoughts?

Ghost120x

That's an oversimplification. Karma doesn't mean if you do good things good things WILL happen to you, it means good things are more likely to happen. Basically, and I should note that this is also an oversimplification albeit a more accurate one, if you do positive things and take a positive outlook you will affect the people around you in a positive way (which is empirically true). This will cause the people around you to have a more positive outlook (also empirically true) and thus make it more likely that they will in turn affect you in a positive way. The more people acting in a positive manner, the more they affect people around them in positive ways, and the more likely they themselves will be to receive positive actions from others.

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#30 theone86
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so how karma explains the fact that chicks get attracted to those who treat them bad or simply d-bags.

VaguelyTagged

Well, first off you're making a false correlation between fat women and attraction to d-bags, that's actually true for a lot of women regadless of weight. This can be explained in part by a few factors. One, women create their idealized mates based in part on their fatherfigures. If they had a distant or hard to please father, then they may have subconcsicous desires that lead them into abusive relationships. They could also have negative self-images from the media, and therefore think that they might not be able to do any better. Or they may be infatuated with physical appearance and under the impression that they canchange attractive d-bags, again this can be the result of environment. In all these cases, someone else's negative actions adversely affect the women in question, which you could look at as bad karma.

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#31 Jackc8
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I don't really believe in karma, but when somebody does something bad and then a few days later you find out that something bad happened to them, well...it's satisfying. And believing that if you do good things, then good things will happen to you - at least you do good things and there's nothing wrong with that.

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#32 theone86
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I don't really believe in karma, but when somebody does something bad and then a few days later you find out that something bad happened to them, well...it's satisfying. And believing that if you do good things, then good things will happen to you - at least you do good things and there's nothing wrong with that.

Jackc8

That first sentence, that could be interpreted as shamen froida (spelling's wrong, I know). Most people who believe in karma would probably say that taking pleasure in other people's misery is not good karma, whether they deserved it or not.

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I don't believe in it. At least not in the supernatural sense most people believe in.
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#34 Jackc8
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so how karma explains the fact that chicks get attracted to those who treat them bad or simply d-bags.

VaguelyTagged

I think that has more to do with being attracted to someone they see as exciting, but exciting people tend to be a-holes because that's a personality trait that comes from self-absorption and an inflated opinion of ones self. Ordinary nice guys seem boring by comparison. And it's never boring chasing after some jerk, it's an "exciting" emotional rollercoaster ride.

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#35 worlock77
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[QUOTE="VaguelyTagged"]

so how karma explains the fact that chicks get attracted to those who treat them bad or simply d-bags.

theone86

Well, first off you're making a false correlation between fat women and attraction to d-bags, that's actually true for a lot of women regadless of weight. This can be explained in part by a few factors. One, women create their idealized mates based in part on their fatherfigures. If they had a distant or hard to please father, then they may have subconcsicous desires that lead them into abusive relationships. They could also have negative self-images from the media, and therefore think that they might not be able to do any better. Or they may be infatuated with physical appearance and under the impression that they canchange attractive d-bags, again this can be the result of environment. In all these cases, someone else's negative actions adversely affect the women in question, which you could look at as bad karma.

This last sentence is good. Karma is all around us, all the time. Every single action generates karma, that is to say that ever action, whether good or ill, creates has effects, consequences. These consequences can be good, bad or both really. And you may never even be aware of the karma you generate. Often times it can be too far reaching for you to ever be personally aware. To use an example: you buy a hit new video game. This generates money for the store where you bought it, which used that money to employ the clerk, who uses his paycheck to feed his family. That's good. This purchase also generates money for the game publisher and developer, who then employ people to create the games, who then use their paychecks to feed their families. Same effect, still good. This purchase helps convince the publisher to use the same developers to create another hit game, which causes the developers to push really hard to get this next game created, which makes them work their employees 80 hours a week, which causes an employee to miss a lot of time at home, which strains his family relations, which leads to a break down of his marriage. That's not so good. But what can you do?

Do not mistake this above example - it is not a blame the player for the guy's failed marriage. It's not a blame anything post. It's simply a small demonstration of how our actions, everyone's actions, can effect the world at large. Some actions have better consequences than others. Some actions have worse consequences than others. But all actions have consequences of some kind. The entire world, every single being and thing in it, is interconnected, and all our actions generate further actions, which ripple throughout the world and effect everyone and everything else. That's karma.

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#36 delol
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Do GOOd and you will get god things .OMG Budism is asiatic chritianism:o

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#37 worlock77
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Do GOOd and you will get god things .OMG Budism is asiatic chritianism:o

delol

The "golden rule" is pretty prevelant throughout just about all cultures, and it certainly did not originate with Christianity.

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#38 NuclearNerd
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 Karma is a funny thing...
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#39 Allicrombie
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Karma = being good, good stuff happens. Being bad = you lose. Easy!
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#40 delol
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[QUOTE="delol"]

Do GOOd and you will get god things .OMG Budism is asiatic chritianism:o

worlock77

The "golden rule" is pretty prevelant throughout just about all cultures, and it certainly did not originate with Christianity.

OMFG this once i agree with you Let me say that the golden rule did not start whit budhism but whit mankind when we found that we need each other Salutes to yuo I cosider you a brother in arms even when i disagree whit your ideas

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#41 Allicrombie
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Karma can only be portioned out by the cosmos. =P
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#42 Deihjan
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Karma can only be portioned out by the cosmos. =PAllicrombie
The father of princess Celestia and Luna? :o
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#43 delol
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 Karma is a funny thing...NuclearNerd
No it is not is a very seryuos thing
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#44 SaudiFury
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Quite possibly the most misunderstood concept in the world. The world "karma" simply means "action". It's not some mystical judicial force supernaturally dishing out punishments and rewards, it's quite simply the very natural concept of cause and effect. If you act like a dick people will treat you like a dick. That's karma. Orchestrate an attack that kills thousands of people and you get hunted down and shot like a rabid dog. That's karma. Find somebody's wallet, return it with all contents in tact and they reward you with the $50 that was in the wallet for your honesty. That's karma.

worlock77
generally how i've thought of the term.
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[QUOTE="Allicrombie"]Karma can only be portioned out by the cosmos. =PDeihjan
The father of princess Celestia and Luna? :o

er yes. >.>