Your thoughts on my High School Policies....

My school is a good school, but sometimes, I think their policies are just plain stupid. I take pride in what I believe in. Note: My views may differ from yours. I would really like to hear from you people on what you think.

Basically, my school recently incorporated this program called "Sweeps" in which a student is essentially swept, because they didn't get to class on time. Which sounds like a great idea, right? Not so, not even close. Students are sent to a room to stare at a blank white wall. If they do not go down to the "Sweeps" room, then it is counted as a ditch. Which, makes sense. However, I don't think the students really get anything out of it. Other they can stare at a wall for a whole hour. They can still go after school to get the stuff they missed. Students go to school to learn, not to be in a classroom doing absolutely nothing. Apparently, my school district has seem to forget the whole meaning of school. Now, if students are causing problems in class, then thats adifferent story. They are disrupting and those are the people who should be sent to Sweeps.

This is my viewpoint on ONE of my high school policies. I am not trying to look like a kid who has nothing better to do and just post complaints. I am a legitimate A+ student who is enrolled in Advanced Placement. If you have different views from me, then great, and I want to hear them. Especially from adults :)

What do you mean, "swept?" Taken out of class to go to another room to stare at a wall? We used to get a detention if we were late so many times. I always thought only 5 mins between each class was tough. Trying to hit up the bath room and make it across the school was impossible sometimes.

That punishment seems a little harsh.

Why not just have the late students do twice the homework for that particular day of class? That sounds like a better deterrent than having them stare at a blank wall.

What do you mean, "swept?" Taken out of class to go to another room to stare at a wall? We used to get a detention if we were late so many times. I always thought only 5 mins between each class was tough. Trying to hit up the bath room and make it across the school was impossible sometimes.

That punishment seems a little harsh.

subyman

I thought this was going to be a dumb complaint. Like at my school we have to wear lanyards with ID cards attached to them, everyone complains when it's really not a big deal.

In your case, I agree. That doesn't really help the student, if the problem is that they are concerned with people disrupting the class, then make them wait outside until you are finished instructing everyone else. It's not that hard of aconcept.

To try to look at it from the school's side, I can see the concern with disrupting the class. Make a rule that after 5 minutes (or whatever the time between classes is at your school) the teacher closes the door and starts the lesson, if the student is late then they wait outside (make sure they know that they are NOT allowed to knock, otherwise they get "swept") when the teacher is done instructing or taking attendance, then they let the kids in from outside. Any students late after that can go to the "sweep" room.

In my opinion if the school wanted to do this "sweep" thing, then they should do it like I described. Other then that it is unfair that you may make one mistake in going to a class and lose a period of learning.

Jeez, at least in In School Suspension (tardy, troublemakers, etc all in the same room), I could read my textbooks...sounds like a waste of time. BranKetra

I thought this was going to be a dumb complaint. Like at my school we have to wear lanyards with ID cards attached to them, everyone complains when it's really not a big deal.

In your case, I agree. That doesn't really help the student, if the problem is that they are concerned with people disrupting the class, then make them wait outside until you are finished instructing everyone else. It's not that hard of aconcept.

To try to look at it from the school's side, I can see the concern with disrupting the class. Make a rule that after 5 minutes (or whatever the time between classes is at your school) the teacher closes the door and starts the lesson, if the student is late then they wait outside (make sure they know that they are NOT allowed to knock, otherwise they get "swept") when the teacher is done instructing or taking attendance, then they let the kids in from outside. Any students late after that can go to the "sweep" room.

In my opinion if the school wanted to do this "sweep" thing, then they should do it like I described. Other then that it is unfair that you may make one mistake in going to a class and lose a period of learning.

Silos911

This is ridiculous. And by sweep he means they take people who are tardy and give them detention. I agree with you. This sucks. Complain. You're paying for your education (directly, or indirectly through taxes) so make sure your voice is heard. Adam_the_Nerd

Better than my high school's policy. If you reach three tardies in a class, your overall class grade will be marked down 2%. Every subsequent tardy after your third is another 2% lost.

we have a similar thing at my school but its called lockout. yes it is stupid but i never go to it and they never say anything to me...so its pointless

Its funny you say that, because my School has the exact same policy

You only get 2 minutes between classes, and level that in with the crowdiness of the halls (i'm serious, just imagine a full concert hall, only with snotty High School kids) and you get a pretty flawed policy. And if you get swept twice in a week, you get a 3 day suspension :|

Sounds like what my high school did. It forced people to get to class on time. Because if you got "swept" It was seen as an unexcused absence. And if you had an unexcused absence in a class, you are responsible of the material you missed. It was fair to me because I was never late to class without an excuse.mrmusicman247

Students go to school to learn

That's the whole point imo. It's hard for a student to argue that this is unfair and prevents learning when he/she can't even be bothered show up to class on time.

Better than my policy. If you reach three tardies in a class, your grade will be marked down 2%. Every subsequent tardy after your third is another 2% lost.monkeytoes61

I've experienced a Policy like that ever since I was in middle school (I'm in my third year of college now.) My thoughts? Meh. I was always on time for class anyway so I never had a problem with it. It is pretty strict though.

Better than my policy. If you reach three tardies in a class, your grade will be marked down 2%. Every subsequent tardy after your third is another 2% lost.monkeytoes61

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]Better than my policy. If you reach three tardies in a class, your grade will be marked down 2%. Every subsequent tardy after your third is another 2% lost.Davyvfr

I've experienced a Policy like that ever since I was in middle school (I'm in my third year of college now.) My thoughts? Meh. I was always on time for class anyway so I never had a problem with it. It is pretty strict though.

Lionheart08

take it up with the principal, or tell your parents and have them talk to the principal

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

I've experienced a Policy like that ever since I was in middle school (I'm in my third year of college now.) My thoughts? Meh. I was always on time for class anyway so I never had a problem with it. It is pretty strict though.

Davyvfr

Trust me, the only way you'll ever get swept is if you go out of your way to goof off and not make it to class. That or your teacher acts like a major hardass if you show up a minute late.

Also I hate to be that guybut the whole "sweeps" policies is to also get students ready for college, where depending on the professor, they will mark you absent if you show up too late.

take it up with the principal, or tell your parents and have them talk to the principal

Microwin

[QUOTE="Davyvfr"][QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

I've experienced a Policy like that ever since I was in middle school (I'm in my third year of college now.) My thoughts? Meh. I was always on time for class anyway so I never had a problem with it. It is pretty strict though.

Lionheart08

Trust me, the only way you'll ever get swept is if you go out of your way to goof off and not make it to class. That or your teacher acts like a major hardass if you show up a minute late.

Also I hate to be that guybut the whole "sweeps" policies is to also get students ready for college, where depending on the professor, they will mark you absent if you show up too late.

Also I hate to be that guybut the whole "sweeps" policies is to also get students ready for college, where depending on the professor, they will mark you absent if you show up too late.

Lionheart08

Our school has such strict policies but nobody actually enforces them. For example, the other day in English we did a presentation of Macbeth while completely out of dress code and with plastic weapons (clearly not allowed) right in front of the principal. The administration at our school is so epic.

What do you mean, "swept?" Taken out of ****to go to another room to stare at a wall? We used to get a detention if we were late so many times. I always thought only 5 mins between each ****was tough. Trying to hit up the bath room and make it across the school was impossible sometimes.

That punishment seems a little harsh.

subyman

[QUOTE="subyman"]

What do you mean, "swept?" Taken out of ****to go to another room to stare at a wall? We used to get a detention if we were late so many times. I always thought only 5 mins between each ****was tough. Trying to hit up the bath room and make it across the school was impossible sometimes.

That punishment seems a little harsh.

Rattlesnake_8

I don't understand what sweeps meant? Is it skipping?

Basically, my school recently incorporated this program called "Sweeps" in which a student is essentially swept, because they didn't get to class on time. Which sounds like a great idea, right? Not so, not even close. Students are sent to a room to stare at a blank white wall. If they do not go down to the "Sweeps" room, then it is counted as a ditch. Which, makes sense. However, I don't think the students really get anything out of it. Other they can stare at a wall for a whole hour. They can still go after school to get the stuff they missed. Students go to school to learn, not to be in a classroom doing absolutely nothing. Apparently, my school district has seem to forget the whole meaning of school. Now, if students are causing problems in class, then thats adifferent story. They are disrupting and those are the people who should be sent to Sweeps.

This is my viewpoint on ONE of my high school policies. I am not trying to look like a kid who has nothing better to do and just post complaints. I am a legitimate A+ student who is enrolled in Advanced Placement. If you have different views from me, then great, and I want to hear them. Especially from adults :)

Davyvfr

I think schools need to chill out. If your 5 minutes late to class every now and then it shouldnt matter at all. None of this "sweep" or detention BS.

We used to have only 4 minutes inbetween classes, thank god I graduated, Im out of the stupidity of high school.

Also, I hate Phys ed. Hate gym for life!!!

My school policyhad asimilar one to that except it was called TOR (Time Out Room) and yes it was a High School.

I think schools need to chill out. If your 5 minutes late to class every now and then it shouldnt matter at all. None of this "sweep" or detention BS.

We used to have only 4 minutes inbetween classes, thank god I graduated, Im out of the stupidity of high school.

Also, I hate Phys ed. Hate gym for life!!!

Shmiity

It seens like a good oportunity, get yourself swept, go to the room and smoke some pot. You'd be amazed how it makes white walls fun!

If you were late in my school you couldn't go to class, you were barred outside. I came late every wednesday 8) , returned home to sleep. My officialbreak day!

My school do that at my school, at times. However, if your in really bad trouble, you'll go to a different location (like a Detention school somewhere else) for that. If you did something bad, but nothing really really bad, you'll go to ISS (In School Suspension) in school. I think it's stupid, even though IM SPECIAL ED SO HA (lol, just joking).

I think the Policies are dumb.

It's a method of discipline and brainwashing similar to regime. Regiment doesn't belong in school. The military does it to deprive combatants. It's psychological conditioning. Just like prisoners they must do what they say when they are told or they face harsh punishment because they are only free to do whatever they told to do. It works on most people, because they weak and easy to break. Mist don't even realize their behavior is being modified. Kids don't know, they just trust adults.

NO public service should have the right to mold citizens. That's why in the United States they got rid of the pledge of allegiance and all of that other regimentedbrainwashing BS.

It doesn't effect me because I'm no longer in school, but if nobody pays attention to what their government is teaching their children they may be brainwashed beyondsimple repair by the time someone notices.

I went to a public school. The Berea City Schools. Every Berea School I went to was full of... uh.. nerds. Most of the kids did extra credit and read the text books cover to cover. Nobody cared about the few that didn't follow the rules or do their work. They were disregarded.

Isn't "staring at walls" what high school revolves around anyway?

madman608

mmmm... yeah. Even the teachers do it. I rememberfirst thing after the bell rang "Turn to page__and read to page __" . Then they would just sit there and stare into their book never turning a page orstare at the wall and actlike theywere watchingus while some chump teacher's assistant did all of the teacher's work.

But Teachers and professors are glorified babysitters and instructors. The only difference is a professor is paid more. You figure the professormust be a blabber mouth to keep his job. Where as a public school teacher is an under paid city employee.

Private grade schoolsare much different though, but only the rich kidsgo tothose schools. It's a status thing anyway. No matter how much you pay or don't pay the books have the same information.

I don't know why anyone would want to be an educator in the first place. It's far easier to become a firefighter or police officer. An academy that doesn't even last a year and both jobs pay more.

My school did something like that too, called a Tardy Sweep. They only did it sometimes though and it seemed to be about every 2-3 weeks, since during lunch time you were allowed to leave the campus to do whatever and if you were late coming back they'd send you off to OCI (On Campus-Intervention). I remember they did a tardy sweep during the morning once and sent everyone who got caught home. Stupidest rule ever

Thank goodness I graduated from there and don't have to deal with that anymore!

I think its totally pointless and it seemed to only be there so security guards at my school could go on a power trip

I remember I go 45 minutes detention for wearing the wrong shoes once...

But detention at my school is usually at lunch time or after school, not during class time.

My schools has also implemented a "Sweeps" policy. Where do you go to school TC? Its fairly annoying for 5th period where i don't do anything so i just go to my old history teachers classroom, hang out for 10 minutes till the sweep is done and then just go out again so i can read my books in peace.

You get punished for not turning up to class? It was always taken up with parents at my school

To try to look at it from the school's side, I can see the concern with disrupting the class. Make a rule that after 5 minutes (or whatever the time between classes is at your school) the teacher closes the door and starts the lesson, if the student is late then they wait outside (make sure they know that they are NOT allowed to knock, otherwise they get "swept") when the teacher is done instructing or taking attendance, then they let the kids in from outside. Any students late after that can go to the "sweep" room.

In my opinion if the school wanted to do this "sweep" thing, then they should do it like I described. Other then that it is unfair that you may make one mistake in going to a class and lose a period of learning.

Silos911

That's stupid. You're saying that someone opening the door is SO disruptive that they should receive punishment of some vague level for it? I think excessive tardyness should be punished, 'cause it's just stupid, but I never was doing work in a class, saw the door move, and hopped out of my chair like a Yorkie wagging it's cute little stub, possibly losing bowel control and yipping. Never happened.

Excessive tardyness punishment, someone said something 'bout lowering your grade past 3 times that you're tardy, that's an amazing idea. Especially if they can't recover the grade through makeup work.