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#1 Warhawk_
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That one famous scene in the movie where it is always parodied is being removed from youtube. Here is a picture for example of what I mean

And the story;

Popular Hitler 'Downfall' parodies removed from YouTube; company cites copyright infringement

NEW YORK - Adolf Hitler for years a vessel of frustration in a popular Internet meme, has been quieted.

"Downfall," a German film released in 2004 about Hitler's last days, has been adopted for wildly popular YouTube parodies that have spanned mock rants about topics as varied as playing Xbox video games to Kanye West to Apple's new iPad.

Every spoof is from the same scene in the film: A furious, defeated Hitler played by Bruno Ganz, unleashes an impassioned, angry speech to his remaining staff, huddled with him in his underground bunker.

The scene takes on widely different meaning when paired with English subtitles about, say, a late-season collapse by the New York Mets. Most any subject could be - and was - substituted, made even funnier by the scene's intense melodrama, artful staging and timely cutaways.

It was the meme that refused to die - until it did.

On Tuesday, the clips on YouTube, many of which had been watched by hundreds of thousands, even millions, began disappearing from the site. Constantin Films, the company that owns the rights to the film, asked for them to be removed, and YouTube complied.

Martin Moszkowicz, head of film and TV at Constantin films in Munich, said the company had been fighting copyright infringement for years. Jewish organizations have also complained about the tastefulness of the clips, he said.

"When does parody stop? It is a very complicated issue," Moszkowicz said. "So we are taking a simple approach: Take them all down. We've been doing it for years now. The important thing is to protect our copyright. We are very proud of the film."

Abraham Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League, said the league was "delighted."

"We find them offensive," said Foxman of the videos. "We feel that they trivialize not only the Holocaust but World War II. Hitler is not a cartoon character."

Moszkowicz disputed the idea that all the attention to "Downfall," which grossed $5.5 million at the U.S. box office and was nominated for a best foreign language film Oscar, had helped the film.

"We have not been able to see any increase in DVD sales," he said. "There is no correlation between Internet parodies and sales of a movie, at least not that I am aware of."

Moszkowicz said he didn't know why the videos were only recently taken down and suggested that it could have been "something on the YouTube end."

YouTube, which is owned by Google, declined to comment Wednesday about the takedown of the videos.

Some have argued that, being parodies, the videos are protected under "fair use," the legal doctrine that holds that the use of some creative works for purposes such as parody and education may be considered "fair."

The site's policy about content that infringes on copyright is that it will remove videos if the copyright holder requests it. Using "Content ID" technology, the site is able to digitally search through its enormous archives and automatically remove any videos in violation.

That's a process that typically takes days or weeks.

However, YouTube promotes the ability to monetize such videos and allow the copyright holder - if it chooses to allow the user-uploaded videos to remain - to earn a percentage of advertising from the clips. YouTube claims that the majority of the more than 1,000 media companies using its Content ID technology opt for this route.

"Content ID has created an entirely new economic model for rights holders," YouTube said in a statement.

Many Hitler clips were still online Wednesday, and new parodies were popping up featuring Hitler ranting about his removal from YouTube.

For years, the meme has held an unusually steadfast position in Internet culture. While most online parodies come and go overnight, new "Downfall" spoofs have been continually created for years. It's not known exactly how many have existed but estimates run in the hundreds.

They have served as a kind of soapbox for real and mock anguish, a way to comically vent about anything and everything.

The film's director, Oliver Hirschbiegel, told New York magazine in January that he was constantly sent the parodies and he very much liked them.

"The point of the film was to kick these terrible people off the throne that made them demons, making them real and their actions into reality," Hirschbiegel told the magazine. "I think it's only fair if now it's taken as part of our history and used for whatever purposes people like. If only I got royalties for it, then I'd be even happier."

The loss was felt across the Web on Wednesday as if a grand, beloved tradition had been stifled.

In one of its most commented-on posts, the blog Techcrunch lamented that a voice had been lost, writing: "Memes on the Internet don't get any better than the Hitler one."

Link to the article: http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/100421/entertainment/us_hitler_youtube_meme

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#2 SgtKevali
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This is BS. I love those videos. They made me actually watch Downfall. Ironically the Youtube fascists are cracking down.

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#3 JML897
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Why would they do this? Wasn't it kinda free advertising for the film?
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#4 samuraiguns
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lol, well just find another movie.

their lost, that was free publicity.

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#5 FUBAR24
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i find it hilarious how the films own directors loved them
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Many Hitler clips were still online Wednesday, and new parodies were popping up featuring Hitler ranting about his removal from YouTube.

Warhawk_

Lol. *Searches*

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#7 dann14v
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Unfunny meme from an interesting movie. Meh.

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#8 YoungSinatra25
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Ahh... Those videos were awesome. A few actually made me laugh...
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#9 SteveTabernacle
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The parodies are the only reason I know the film exists. Oh well. Youtube sucks a big fat one anyway, it's probably the single most user unfriendly and poorly administered website on the entire internet. As for the Jewish groups, well, you have the right to free speech, but you don't have the right not to be offended. That's how comedy works, it almost always offends someone.
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#10 scorch-62
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AW HELL NAW! There had better be another "Downfall" parody about this.
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#11 RobboElRobbo
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What a load of crap. Youtube can go screw itself. I wish they would have never sold out.

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#12 solidruss
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What a load of crap. Youtube can go screw itself. I wish they would have never sold out.

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It's not You Tube's fault, they were asked by the movie owners to remove it.They have to comply

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Excellent movie though.

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Well that sucks, I loved those things.

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I love that film.
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#16 dragon7x2k
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That sucks, those were funnier than the angry german kid, I specially liked the Blazblue one.
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*opens Youtube downloader*
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Put one up where Hitler freaks out about this.
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Someone clearly needs to make a Downfall video about this. :P

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Put one up where Hitler freaks out about this. GodofBigMacs
That would be funny, Hitler sad about losing his internet celebrity carreer
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#21 martialbullet
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Aw, I liked those D:

Also, it was a bit unnecessary to censor Hitler in the title :P

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[QUOTE="RobboElRobbo"]

What a load of crap. Youtube can go screw itself. I wish they would have never sold out.

solidruss

It's not You Tube's fault, they were asked by the movie owners to remove it.They have to comply

I realize this, but before they sold out to Google they simply did what lots of other sites do and hide from the cops. :P

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#23 coolbeans90
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That ****ing sucks. Those were freaking hilarious. **** you Youtube.

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[QUOTE="solidruss"]

[QUOTE="RobboElRobbo"]

What a load of crap. Youtube can go screw itself. I wish they would have never sold out.

RobboElRobbo

It's not You Tube's fault, they were asked by the movie owners to remove it.They have to comply

I realize this, but before they sold out to Google they simply did what lots of other sites do and hide from the cops. :P

These days lawsuit threats alone can cause all kinds of problems... heck it's one of the reasons the Terms of Use here are laid out as they are.:P

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Also, it was a bit unnecessary to censor Hitler in the title :Pmartialbullet
You would think so, but GS automatically censors it out in the title. Just like gay
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[QUOTE="RobboElRobbo"][QUOTE="solidruss"]

It's not You Tube's fault, they were asked by the movie owners to remove it.They have to comply

solidruss

I realize this, but before they sold out to Google they simply did what lots of other sites do and hide from the cops. :P

These days lawsuit threats alone can cause all kinds of problems... heck it's one of the reasons the Terms of Use here are laid out as they are.:P

Well, there's one site I can think of right now who's managed to fight off lawsuits for years and probably won't go down for years to come. If I mention it I'll get modded though. :P

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#27 solidruss
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ite I can think of right now who's managed to fight off lawsuits for years and probably won't go down for years to come. If I mention it I'll get modded though. :P

RobboElRobbo

More than likely without mentioning what you're not mentioning the site is not based in the US:P

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[QUOTE="RobboElRobbo"]ite I can think of right now who's managed to fight off lawsuits for years and probably won't go down for years to come. If I mention it I'll get modded though. :P

solidruss

More than likely without mentioning what you're not mentioning the site is not based in the US:P

'

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Yay...YouTube just got that much crappier!

Of course they would delete those videos...it's offensive...whaaa!!!!:cry::roll:

That's YouTube's loss.

I loved Downfall of Grammar!:cry::evil:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBO5dh9qrIQ

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Noooooo! i love those videos so much. I will make a hitler parody video to express my outrage. . .oh wait :(. . .

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBO5dh9qrIQ

JustusCF

I had mixed feeling while watching this video, on one hand it was freaking hilarious, in the other, I'll have to watch cat videos for the rest of my life.

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[QUOTE="RobboElRobbo"]

What a load of crap. Youtube can go screw itself. I wish they would have never sold out.

solidruss

It's not You Tube's fault, they were asked by the movie owners to remove it.They have to comply

No they don't.

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[QUOTE="martialbullet"]Also, it was a bit unnecessary to censor Hitler in the title :PJazz_Fan
You would think so, but GS automatically censors it out in the title. Just like gay

Indeed. That is why I had to spell the name this way because gamespot wouldn't allow the whole name.
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#35 solidruss
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[QUOTE="solidruss"]

[QUOTE="RobboElRobbo"]

What a load of crap. Youtube can go screw itself. I wish they would have never sold out.

Loco_Live

It's not You Tube's fault, they were asked by the movie owners to remove it.They have to comply

No they don't.

Umm yes they do unless they want to be hit with a lawsuit....

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Pathetic. Free publicity and the films directors loved them.
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Youtube are Nazis? Lol

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I really liked those videos...
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Youtube are Nazis? Lolalex_b52
YouTube is just saving its own ass. "Constantin Films, the company that owns the rights to the film, asked for them to be removed, and YouTube complied."
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#40 fear9204
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thats sad, someone should make a video of downfall, and the theme its hitler getting pissed about the removal of his videos
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#41 coolbeans90
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thats sad, someone should make a video of downfall, and the theme its hitler getting pissed about the removal of his videosfear9204

A guy actually posted a link to one about exactly that in this thread.

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That one famous scene in the movie where it is alwaysparodied is being removed from youtube. Here is a picture for example of what I mean

And the story;

Popular Hitler 'Downfall' parodies removed from YouTube; company cites copyright infringement

NEW YORK - Adolf Hitler for years a vessel of frustration in a popular Internet meme, has been quieted.

"Downfall," a German film released in 2004 about Hitler's last days, has been adopted for wildly popular YouTube parodies that have spanned mock rants about topics as varied as playing Xbox video games to Kanye West to Apple's new iPad.

Every spoof is from the same scene in the film: A furious, defeated Hitler played by Bruno Ganz, unleashes an impassioned, angry speech to his remaining staff, huddled with him in his underground bunker.

The scene takes on widely different meaning when paired with English subtitles about, say, a late-season collapse by the New York Mets. Most any subject could be - and was - substituted, made even funnier by the scene's intense melodrama, artful staging and timely cutaways.

It was the meme that refused to die - until it did.

On Tuesday, the clips on YouTube, many of which had been watched by hundreds of thousands, even millions, began disappearing from the site. Constantin Films, the company that owns the rights to the film, asked for them to be removed, and YouTube complied.

Martin Moszkowicz, head of film and TV at Constantin films in Munich, said the company had been fighting copyright infringement for years. Jewish organizations have also complained about the tastefulness of the clips, he said.

"When does parody stop? It is a very complicated issue," Moszkowicz said. "So we are taking a simple approach: Take them all down. We've been doing it for years now. The important thing is to protect our copyright. We are very proud of the film."

Abraham Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League, said the league was "delighted."

"We find them offensive," said Foxman of the videos. "We feel that they trivialize not only the Holocaust but World War II. Hitler is not a cartoon character."

Moszkowicz disputed the idea that all the attention to "Downfall," which grossed $5.5 million at the U.S. box office and was nominated for a best foreign language film Oscar, had helped the film.

"We have not been able to see any increase in DVD sales," he said. "There is no correlation between Internet parodies and sales of a movie, at least not that I am aware of."

Moszkowicz said he didn't know why the videos were only recently taken down and suggested that it could have been "something on the YouTube end."

YouTube, which is owned by Google, declined to comment Wednesday about the takedown of the videos.

Some have argued that, being parodies, the videos are protected under "fair use," the legal doctrine that holds that the use of some creative works for purposes such as parody and education may be considered "fair."

The site's policy about content that infringes on copyright is that it will remove videos if the copyright holder requests it. Using "Content ID" technology, the site is able to digitally search through its enormous archives and automatically remove any videos in violation.

That's a process that typically takes days or weeks.

However, YouTube promotes the ability to monetize such videos and allow the copyright holder - if it chooses to allow the user-uploaded videos to remain - to earn a percentage of advertising from the clips. YouTube claims that the majority of the more than 1,000 media companies using its Content ID technology opt for this route.

"Content ID has created an entirely new economic model for rights holders," YouTube said in a statement.

Many Hitler clips were still online Wednesday, and new parodies were popping up featuring Hitler ranting about his removal from YouTube.

For years, the meme has held an unusually steadfast position in Internet culture. While most online parodies come and go overnight, new "Downfall" spoofs have been continually created for years. It's not known exactly how many have existed but estimates run in the hundreds.

They have served as a kind of soapbox for real and mock anguish, a way to comically vent about anything and everything.

The film's director, Oliver Hirschbiegel, told New York magazine in January that he was constantly sent the parodies and he very much liked them.

"The point of the film was to kick these terrible people off the throne that made them demons, making them real and their actions into reality," Hirschbiegel told the magazine. "I think it's only fair if now it's taken as part of our history and used for whatever purposes people like. If only I got royalties for it, then I'd be even happier."

The loss was felt across the Web on Wednesday as if a grand, beloved tradition had been stifled.

In one of its most commented-on posts, the blog Techcrunch lamented that a voice had been lost, writing: "Memes on the Internet don't get any better than the Hitler one."

Link to the article: http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/100421/entertainment/us_hitler_youtube_meme

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That's so stupid those videos are better than the original movie.

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ask of late 09 and early 2010 youtube is becoming bs

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Oh well...
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[QUOTE="martialbullet"]Also, it was a bit unnecessary to censor Hitler in the title :PJazz_Fan
You would think so, but GS automatically censors it out in the title. Just like gay

What? Really?

Lemme try something here: Hitler Sadaam! Stalin?

Hey, it works!

EDIT: Oh, you meant title :P

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That is a shame. I loved those. :(

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#47 Ultrabeatdown55
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There was one about LOST. It was hilarious. Sad to see these go.

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I love the movie, and the parodies. Darn, they have a legal right though. They could be nice about it.
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#49 klusps
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Nooo!! I love those videos and I also love the actual movie too.:P

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#50 JustPlainLucas
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Oh bull crap. Copyright infringement my ass! Parodies are protected under fair use, unless I'm mistaken.