1500$ for Gaming pc build, help.

Ok here's the deal.

I leave for college in a month. I have about 1,500$ to put into this computer. Also need a monitor, decent one. The computer is basically just for gaming (aside from typing papers). I'm pretty much noob to this, but it's something i've always wanted to do. Im guessing i'll be going with the E8400, or would it be worth going for the E8500 for the extra 20$??Anyways, basically leaving it up to who ever has the knowledge about this. Will be building it based of what you say.

Would really appreciate the help, thanks.

Here's what I'd do with that money if building for myself.

Parts from newegg.com

$120 Antec 900 Case
$160 Antec NeoPower 650W PSU
$015 Antec 120mm Blue LED Case Fan
$025 Samsung DVD R/W
$080 Seagate Barracuda 500GB HD
$285 VisionTek Radeon HD 4870
$085 4GB (2x2GB) G.Skill DDR2 800 SDRAM
$110 MS Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit
$140 ASUS P5Q Pro LGA 775 Intel P45 Motherboard
$170 Intel Core 2 Due E8400 Wolfdale
$029 Silverstone LED Controller Panel

$270 Samsung 22" Widescreen 2ms LCD

$025 Logitech MX310 Mouse

$010 Whatever cheap keyboard

TOTAL: $1525 pre mail in rebates

Alot of the reviews i have seen on g.skill aren't too good. Clearly you say different cause you're telling me to get that, jw why g.skill rather than ocz or corsair.

Also, rather than a 22" screen, would it make more sense to save on that some and put more into the computer itself. Or would a screen size smaller ruin the view?

Q6600 = 193 (Future proof CPU)

G.Skill 2x 2GB (4GB total)DDR2 1000 Dual Channel Kit=85

Corsair CMPSU-650TX 650W PSU= 109.99

Antec 900 = 120

Biostar TForce TP43D2A7 = 79.99

Western Digital WD6400AAKS 640MB 16MB Cache Hard drive = 84.99

Lite-OniHAS120-0422X DVD burner = 23.99

EVGA GTX 280 01G-P3-1280-AR =449.99

Windows Vista Home 64-bit = 109.99

Samsung 22" WS LCD 2253BW = 269.99

Total = 1526

You can search for the parts via www.pricegrabber.com for the best prices. I'm sure you can find all of those parts for under 1500 using that website.

Here's a build that will save you money:)

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=29812&vpn=THREE%20HUNDRED&manufacture=ANTEC Case $61.92

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=23844&vpn=RP-500-PCAR&manufacture=COOLERMASTER PSU $47.73

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=18582&vpn=TWIN2X2048-5400C4&manufacture=CORSAIR RAM $49.99

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=27346&vpn=M2N-MX%20SE%20PLUS&manufacture=ASUS Motherboard $61.60

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=29709&vpn=ADO4600CZBOX&manufacture=AMD CPU $80.53

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=25518&vpn=ET.B16RP.F02&manufacture=Acer Moniter LCD 17" $174.99

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=18561&vpn=512%2DP2%2DN548%2DTX&manufacture=eVGA GPU $162.06(7600GT)

I think my build is pretty damn good. It's going to take me a few years to be able to afford this rig for myself, but It will be worth It.

It'd be a real shame to have a 4870 and not have a monitor good for 1680x1050. You can go a little smaller and still maintain that resolution, but the savings would be negligible until you dropped to something 1440x900 around 19".

G.Skill are one of the best RAM manufacturers out there. Check their ratings (for the one I linked and other models on newegg) OCZ or Crucial are ok but sometimes too expensive for the timings they give you, Corsair is abominable. They let convicted pedophiles and Billy Bob Thorton do the QC checks at the Corsair factory.

Here's a build that will save you money:)

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=29812&vpn=THREE%20HUNDRED&manufacture=ANTEC Case $61.92

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=23844&vpn=RP-500-PCAR&manufacture=COOLERMASTER PSU $47.73

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=18582&vpn=TWIN2X2048-5400C4&manufacture=CORSAIR RAM $49.99

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=27346&vpn=M2N-MX%20SE%20PLUS&manufacture=ASUS Motherboard $61.60

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=29709&vpn=ADO4600CZBOX&manufacture=AMD CPU $80.53

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=25518&vpn=ET.B16RP.F02&manufacture=Acer Moniter LCD 17" $174.99

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=18561&vpn=512%2DP2%2DN548%2DTX&manufacture=eVGA GPU $162.06(7600GT)

I think my build is pretty damn good. It's going to take me a few years to be able to afford this rig for myself, but It will be worth It.

Vilot_Hero

Your build needs serious help. It's both underpowered and overpriced [for the crappy hardware it includes]. If it's going to take you years to afford that you need to rethink your priorities. But let's not hijack Snow2Day's thread.

Ok and as for Vista vs. XP, everyone recommends it, yet everyone complains about its errors. Your input?Snow2Day

Vista hasn't had extensive errors since like the 1st week or so when driver support caught up. With the addition of SP1 Vista is the superior OS for a multitude of reasons.

Ok so really then a 22" is very noticably different, but does it lag much more? or will all of this support it enough to not be glitchy?(considering the resolution size)

Still very iffy on the vista because of my lack of knowledge with mostof this, its going to be complicated enough already.

[QUOTE="WDT-BlackKat"]

Here's what I'd do with that money if building for myself.

Parts from newegg.com

$120 Antec 900 Case
$160 Antec NeoPower 650W PSU
$015 Antec 120mm Blue LED Case Fan
$025 Samsung DVD R/W
$080 Seagate Barracuda 500GB HD
$285 VisionTek Radeon HD 4870
$085 4GB (2x2GB) G.Skill DDR2 800 SDRAM
$110 MS Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit
$140 ASUS P5Q Pro LGA 775 Intel P45 Motherboard
$170 Intel Core 2 Due E8400 Wolfdale
$029 Silverstone LED Controller Panel

$270 Samsung 22" Widescreen 2ms LCD

$025 Logitech MX310 Mouse

$010 Whatever cheap keyboard

TOTAL: $1525 pre mail in rebates

Snow2Day

Do you personally use that ram? or is it just a reference. I really like the way this is set up.

I have a different model of 2x2GB G.Skill RAM, that is a bit more expensive in one computer, and that exact same pair of sticks in my backup computer.

They actually just dropped or are doing a sale on the price it so maybe it'd be a good buy too as it's currently only $5 more.

Ok so really then a 22" is very noticably different, but does it lag much more? or will all of this support it enough to not do so?

Still very iffy on the vista because of my lack of knowledge with mostof this, its going to be complicated enough already.

Snow2Day

A 4870 will run great on a 22" 1680x1050 monitor. If you had something bigger that was running 1920x1200 like a 24"+ monitor then you might want the new HD4870X2 coming out shortly at about $550 or so. Or a Geforce GTX280 at $450.

Will i notice a difference between the two? I don't think i will be doing overclocking or anything right away so if its not raelly going to make a change cheapers always better.Snow2Day

Well it's not a hugely significant improvement, but then $5 isn't much either. I wasted that much on a scratch ticket this morning.

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]

Here's a build that will save you money:)

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=29812&vpn=THREE%20HUNDRED&manufacture=ANTEC Case $61.92

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=23844&vpn=RP-500-PCAR&manufacture=COOLERMASTER PSU $47.73

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=18582&vpn=TWIN2X2048-5400C4&manufacture=CORSAIR RAM $49.99

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=27346&vpn=M2N-MX%20SE%20PLUS&manufacture=ASUS Motherboard $61.60

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=29709&vpn=ADO4600CZBOX&manufacture=AMD CPU $80.53

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=25518&vpn=ET.B16RP.F02&manufacture=Acer Moniter LCD 17" $174.99

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=18561&vpn=512%2DP2%2DN548%2DTX&manufacture=eVGA GPU $162.06(7600GT)

I think my build is pretty damn good. It's going to take me a few years to be able to afford this rig for myself, but It will be worth It.

WDT-BlackKat

Your build needs serious help. It's both underpowered and overpriced [for the crappy hardware it includes]. If it's going to take you years to afford that you need to rethink your priorities. But let's not hijack Snow2Day's thread.

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=18561&vpn=512%2DP2%2DN548%2DTX&manufacture=eVGA GPU $162.06(7600GT)

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I only put $1.00 towards my new computer every month, but the hardware Is decent for the price*cough*Canadian prices*cough*.Vilot_Hero

8800GT for instance is cheaper... And if you ony are putting $1 a month towards a new computer you are going to have a hundred years to revise your list over and over.

[QUOTE="Snow2Day"]Will i notice a difference between the two? I don't think i will be doing overclocking or anything right away so if its not raelly going to make a change cheapers always better.WDT-BlackKat

Well it's not a hugely significant improvement, but then $5 isn't much either. I wasted that much on a scratch ticket this morning.

This is very true ha. Well most of the parts seem pretty good, and i am probably going to build something close to that. Maybe change the controller panel and monitor. I love the blue glow. How many fans do you think it would need? or would the two front ones be enough(Doubtful)

[QUOTE="WDT-BlackKat"]

[QUOTE="Snow2Day"]Will i notice a difference between the two? I don't think i will be doing overclocking or anything right away so if its not raelly going to make a change cheapers always better.Snow2Day

Well it's not a hugely significant improvement, but then $5 isn't much either. I wasted that much on a scratch ticket this morning.

This is very true ha. Well most of the parts seem pretty good, and i am probably going to build something close to that. Maybe change the controller panel and monitor. I love the blue glow. How many fans do you think it would need? or would the two front ones be enough(Doubtful)

The Antec 900 comes with two 120mm on the front, one 120mm on the back, and a 200mm on the top. You'd just need one more 120mm for the otherwise empty side panel fan mount

[QUOTE="WDT-BlackKat"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]

Here's a build that will save you money:)

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=29812&vpn=THREE%20HUNDRED&manufacture=ANTEC Case $61.92

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=23844&vpn=RP-500-PCAR&manufacture=COOLERMASTER PSU $47.73

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=18582&vpn=TWIN2X2048-5400C4&manufacture=CORSAIR RAM $49.99

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=27346&vpn=M2N-MX%20SE%20PLUS&manufacture=ASUS Motherboard $61.60

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=29709&vpn=ADO4600CZBOX&manufacture=AMD CPU $80.53

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=25518&vpn=ET.B16RP.F02&manufacture=Acer Moniter LCD 17" $174.99

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=18561&vpn=512%2DP2%2DN548%2DTX&manufacture=eVGA GPU $162.06(7600GT)

I think my build is pretty damn good. It's going to take me a few years to be able to afford this rig for myself, but It will be worth It.

Vilot_Hero

Your build needs serious help. It's both underpowered and overpriced [for the crappy hardware it includes]. If it's going to take you years to afford that you need to rethink your priorities. But let's not hijack Snow2Day's thread.

I hope your joking, or you need to get out of pc gaming, 7600gt for 162 hahahahahahahahaha and 1 dollar a month I know thats a joke right there, dont give people build info ever.

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="WDT-BlackKat"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]

Here's a build that will save you money:)

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=29812&vpn=THREE%20HUNDRED&manufacture=ANTEC Case $61.92

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=23844&vpn=RP-500-PCAR&manufacture=COOLERMASTER PSU $47.73

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=18582&vpn=TWIN2X2048-5400C4&manufacture=CORSAIR RAM $49.99

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=27346&vpn=M2N-MX%20SE%20PLUS&manufacture=ASUS Motherboard $61.60

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=29709&vpn=ADO4600CZBOX&manufacture=AMD CPU $80.53

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=25518&vpn=ET.B16RP.F02&manufacture=Acer Moniter LCD 17" $174.99

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=18561&vpn=512%2DP2%2DN548%2DTX&manufacture=eVGA GPU $162.06(7600GT)

I think my build is pretty damn good. It's going to take me a few years to be able to afford this rig for myself, but It will be worth It.

millerlight89

Your build needs serious help. It's both underpowered and overpriced [for the crappy hardware it includes]. If it's going to take you years to afford that you need to rethink your priorities. But let's not hijack Snow2Day's thread.

I hope your joking, or you need to get out of pc gaming, 7600gt for 162 hahahahahahahahaha and 1 dollar a month I know thats a joke right there, dont give people build info ever.

So it comes with 4, and one empty?

So it comes with 4, and one empty?

Snow2Day

Yup

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="WDT-BlackKat"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]

Here's a build that will save you money:)

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=29812&vpn=THREE%20HUNDRED&manufacture=ANTEC Case $61.92

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=23844&vpn=RP-500-PCAR&manufacture=COOLERMASTER PSU $47.73

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=18582&vpn=TWIN2X2048-5400C4&manufacture=CORSAIR RAM $49.99

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=27346&vpn=M2N-MX%20SE%20PLUS&manufacture=ASUS Motherboard $61.60

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=29709&vpn=ADO4600CZBOX&manufacture=AMD CPU $80.53

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=25518&vpn=ET.B16RP.F02&manufacture=Acer Moniter LCD 17" $174.99

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=18561&vpn=512%2DP2%2DN548%2DTX&manufacture=eVGA GPU $162.06(7600GT)

I think my build is pretty damn good. It's going to take me a few years to be able to afford this rig for myself, but It will be worth It.

millerlight89

Your build needs serious help. It's both underpowered and overpriced [for the crappy hardware it includes]. If it's going to take you years to afford that you need to rethink your priorities. But let's not hijack Snow2Day's thread.

I hope your joking, or you need to get out of pc gaming, 7600gt for 162 hahahahahahahahaha and 1 dollar a month I know thats a joke right there, dont give people build info ever.

Considering he is a canadian, I'm going to go ahead and assume that the period there is intended to be a comma, which would still be wrong, but point being, I'm pretty sure that he means $100. And consider that these are canadian dollar prices we're talking about, but I would agree that he could get better for less. Just thought I'd point that out. To the OP, the suggested builds are all great, and you will be happy with whatever you choose. My somewhat cheaper computer is going to be completed tomorrow when the rest of my packages arrive from newegg...I'm very excited.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="WDT-BlackKat"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]

Here's a build that will save you money:)

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=29812&vpn=THREE%20HUNDRED&manufacture=ANTEC Case $61.92

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=23844&vpn=RP-500-PCAR&manufacture=COOLERMASTER PSU $47.73

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=18582&vpn=TWIN2X2048-5400C4&manufacture=CORSAIR RAM $49.99

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=27346&vpn=M2N-MX%20SE%20PLUS&manufacture=ASUS Motherboard $61.60

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=29709&vpn=ADO4600CZBOX&manufacture=AMD CPU $80.53

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=25518&vpn=ET.B16RP.F02&manufacture=Acer Moniter LCD 17" $174.99

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=18561&vpn=512%2DP2%2DN548%2DTX&manufacture=eVGA GPU $162.06(7600GT)

I think my build is pretty damn good. It's going to take me a few years to be able to afford this rig for myself, but It will be worth It.

Vilot_Hero

Your build needs serious help. It's both underpowered and overpriced [for the crappy hardware it includes]. If it's going to take you years to afford that you need to rethink your priorities. But let's not hijack Snow2Day's thread.

I hope your joking, or you need to get out of pc gaming, 7600gt for 162 hahahahahahahahaha and 1 dollar a month I know thats a joke right there, dont give people build info ever.

Just no

Yeah i really like WDT-BlackKat's build so i have been checking that out right now. Most likely will be ordering that and asking for help getting it to run after its all put together ha.Snow2Day

Whats wrong with dual core? and the hard drive.

Also an e8400 has 3.0 ghz.. Q6600 is 2.4?

Whats wrong with dual core? and the hard drive.

Also an e8400 has 3.0 ghz.. Q6600 is 2.4?

Snow2Day

The hard drive I listed is almost on par with the WD Velociraptor hard drive which costs around 300 dollars and I'm pretty sure is either the fastest or one of the fastest hard drives on the market today.

Trust me, the specs I provided is a lot better and more future proof which is perfect for a College student like yourself.

[QUOTE="Snow2Day"]

Whats wrong with dual core? and the hard drive.

Also an e8400 has 3.0 ghz.. Q6600 is 2.4?

DaGamingGod

The hard drive I listed is almost on par with the WD Velociraptor hard drive which costs around 300 dollars and I'm pretty sure is either the fastest or one of the fastest hard drives on the market today.

Trust me, the specs I provided is a lot better and more future proof which is perfect for a College student like yourself.

No such thing as future proof

[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"][QUOTE="Snow2Day"]

Whats wrong with dual core? and the hard drive.

Also an e8400 has 3.0 ghz.. Q6600 is 2.4?

millerlight89

The hard drive I listed is almost on par with the WD Velociraptor hard drive which costs around 300 dollars and I'm pretty sure is either the fastest or one of the fastest hard drives on the market today.

Trust me, the specs I provided is a lot better and more future proof which is perfect for a College student like yourself.

No such thing as future proof

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="DaGamingGod"][QUOTE="Snow2Day"]

Whats wrong with dual core? and the hard drive.

Also an e8400 has 3.0 ghz.. Q6600 is 2.4?

DaGamingGod

The hard drive I listed is almost on par with the WD Velociraptor hard drive which costs around 300 dollars and I'm pretty sure is either the fastest or one of the fastest hard drives on the market today.

Trust me, the specs I provided is a lot better and more future proof which is perfect for a College student like yourself.

No such thing as future proof

In my honest opinion i think he should keep saving until neheleam comes in november

[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"][QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="DaGamingGod"][QUOTE="Snow2Day"]

Whats wrong with dual core? and the hard drive.

Also an e8400 has 3.0 ghz.. Q6600 is 2.4?

millerlight89

The hard drive I listed is almost on par with the WD Velociraptor hard drive which costs around 300 dollars and I'm pretty sure is either the fastest or one of the fastest hard drives on the market today.

Trust me, the specs I provided is a lot better and more future proof which is perfect for a College student like yourself.

No such thing as future proof

In my honest opinion i think he should keep saving until neheleam comes in november

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="DaGamingGod"][QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="DaGamingGod"][QUOTE="Snow2Day"]

Whats wrong with dual core? and the hard drive.

Also an e8400 has 3.0 ghz.. Q6600 is 2.4?

DaGamingGod

The hard drive I listed is almost on par with the WD Velociraptor hard drive which costs around 300 dollars and I'm pretty sure is either the fastest or one of the fastest hard drives on the market today.

Trust me, the specs I provided is a lot better and more future proof which is perfect for a College student like yourself.

No such thing as future proof

In my honest opinion i think he should keep saving until neheleam comes in november

Why no gtx 280

Alright just waking up now this morning. Thanks for all the feedback everyone. So i was following your discussion of a dual vs a quad and i still dont really understand why your pushing the Q6600, why not just egt a E8400 and not overclock? Not sure if i mention this but impretty new to most so overclocking isnt something id be doing RIGHT away, i need to understand more about computers and such before i risk breaking it you know?

Basically just want a comparison between the Q6600 and the E8400, why one will benifit more than another.

And as for future proof.. ehh its whatever. I figure i will need a few new parts in a year or two anyways. Even a stock dell computer finds a way to s*** the bed after the first month if you touch anything. Upgrades can be made later. Just looking for something that will last a decent amount of time.

Alright just waking up now this morning. Thanks for all the feedback everyone. So i was following your discussion of a dual vs a quad and i still dont really understand why your pushing the Q6600, why not just egt a E8400 and not overclock? Not sure if i mention this but impretty new to most so overclocking isnt something id be doing RIGHT away, i need to understand more about computers and such before i risk breaking it you know?

Basically just want a comparison between the Q6600 and the E8400, why one will benifit more than another.

And as for future proof.. ehh its whatever. I figure i will need a few new parts in a year or two anyways. Even a stock dell computer finds a way to s*** the bed after the first month if you touch anything. Upgrades can be made later. Just looking for something that will last a decent amount of time.

Snow2Day

About the e8400, you can overclock it all you want but it will NEVER feature 4 CPU cores. A 2.6Ghz Q6600 is more than enough for any application today like I stated before, you can always overclock it to 3+ Ghz whenever you feel the need.

By the time any games make a real use for quad core, there'll be something out there way better and more worth your money to buy. So the only real reason to get a q6600 is if your multitasking alot.whitechocolate_

Btw, he's going to be going off to college and probably won't have cash to spend on constant upgrades. A quad core will last him a lot longer than a dual core would.

[QUOTE="whitechocolate_"]By the time any games make a real use for quad core, there'll be something out there way better and more worth your money to buy. So the only real reason to get a q6600 is if your multitasking alot.DaGamingGod

Btw, he's going to be going off to college and probably won't have cash to spend on constant upgrades. A quad core will last him a lot longer than a dual core would.

Yeah, paying for my apartment also so won't have any kind of real paying job for another year and a half when i'm out. (New england tech!! haa.. Rhode Island sucks) ... What's better about the 4870x2 v. GTX vid? And which one of the 4870x2 do i get?

[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]

[QUOTE="whitechocolate_"]By the time any games make a real use for quad core, there'll be something out there way better and more worth your money to buy. So the only real reason to get a q6600 is if your multitasking alot.Snow2Day

Btw, he's going to be going off to college and probably won't have cash to spend on constant upgrades. A quad core will last him a lot longer than a dual core would.

Yeah, paying for my apartment also so won't have any kind of real paying job for another year and a half when i'm out. (New england tech!! haa.. Rhode Island sucks) ... What's better about the 4870x2 v. GTX vid? And which one of the 4870x2 do i get?

Visiontek cards feature lifetime warranties. The 4870x2 is a lot faster than a GTX 280 and at times, faster than 2 GTX 280's in SLI. The GTX 280 runs Crysis better than the 4870x2 but I'm sure Crysis Warhead will have different results since it's a lot more optimized compared to the original.

[QUOTE="whitechocolate_"]By the time any games make a real use for quad core, there'll be something out there way better and more worth your money to buy. So the only real reason to get a q6600 is if your multitasking alot.DaGamingGod

Btw, he's going to be going off to college and probably won't have cash to spend on constant upgrades. A quad core will last him a lot longer than a dual core would.

I'm in a very similar position to the TC's. Do you think a rig that is SLI or crossfire capable worth it for me? Or a rig that will hanld just a single 4870 or 280.

I suggest you purchase the Vistiontek 4870x2 from www.bestbuy.com. It's on sale for 469.99 which is a steal.

Visiontek cards feature lifetime warranties. The 4870x2 is a lot faster than a GTX 280 and at times, faster than 2 GTX 280's in SLI. The GTX 280 runs Crysis better than the 4870x2 but I'm sure Crysis Warhead will have different results since it's a lot more optimized compared to the original.

DaGamingGod

I think getting a 4870 x2 isn't worth it. You can get a visiontek 4870 (1x) for just $264 after rebate. And it can run crysis on high at a good resolution.