1920 x 1200 resolution better than 1080p?

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#1 gregdpw
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i planning on running two gtx's in sli on a 24 inch 1920 x 1200 resolution monitor.  now will my games look way than a ps3?  thanks
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#2 Einhanderkiller
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2,304,000 pixels > 2,073,600 pixels

Your games will be rendered at a higher resolution than a PS3 at 1080p, but what the game looks like depends on, well, the game. A game like Quake III won't look better than Resistance: Fall of Man even at a higher resolution. 

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#3 gregdpw
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yeah i know.  i'm talking about half life 2/ fear/ crysis.  modern games
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#4 Baselerd
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yes, 1080p is 1920x1080. Be wary of the refresh rate though.
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#5 gregdpw
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why what would be wrong with the refresh rate?

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#6 Baselerd
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Some monitors have a really nice resolution but will only run it at something terrible like 60Hz.
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#7 Einhanderkiller
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Some monitors have a really nice resolution but will only run it at something terrible like 60Hz.Baselerd

60 Hz is the standard for LCD monitors. It's far from terrible.

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#8 Cahota
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Some monitors have a really nice resolution but will only run it at something terrible like 60Hz.Baselerd

And what's wrong with 60 Hz? :) It's normal refresh rate for all LCD-monitors. Actually refresh rate means something only on CRT-monitors, but not on LCD!

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#9 Baselerd
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Your right, it's not terrible, but it's not good. 75Hz is the minimum I would want though. It's much easier on the eyes.
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Your right, it's not terrible, but it's not good. 75Hz is the minimum I would want though. It's much easier on the eyes.Baselerd

You are incorrect lcd's dont actualyl refresh at 60 hz, they refresh at much higher, thats the number for the gpu, check on wiki. you can quote  me on this, those the higher refresh rate may help on input lag...

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#11 Baselerd
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If you say so, but....

The refresh rate is really a function of the response time I think. I had an 8ms response time monitor about a month ago, and with my 7900gt I could only use 60Hz (1280x1024). Now I have a 3ms response time monitor and I can run it at either 60Hz or 75Hz (both 1280x1024.)

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LCDs don't exactly "refresh" at all. CRTs have to keep pushing the image to the screen or the image fades. Computer monitors do this a minimum of 60 times per second. LCDs on the other hand have physical pixels on a screen that are lit up to a specific color, but the image is persistent. How fast these pixels can change from one color to another is the "response time", but it's not exactly the same as the refresh on a CRT.

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#13 gregdpw
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but with two gtx's and my gateway 24 inch 6ms time it should look damn good at full res right?
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#14 ZBoater
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A single GTX will run at that resolution with all the eye candy turned on.  The 2nd GTX is unecessary.
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#15 gregdpw
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but it will be good for the future right?  and i would get a better fps with two right?
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#16 jfelisario
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you will get more stable average and higher minimum frame rates, doesn't help raise your max frame rates when you've basically hit it with a single 8800 gtx.
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#17 K_r_a_u_s_e_r
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Two always = more, but Two != Double

What I mean is, for example, say an 8800 GTX was getting 100 FPS on Crysis, adding another card bringing it to SLi won't give it 200 FPS - more on the line of 25-50 more FPS. Worth it price wise? No, do you get more performance? Yes.
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#18 jfelisario
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Two always = more, but Two != Double

What I mean is, for example, say an 8800 GTX was getting 100 FPS on Crysis, adding another card bringing it to SLi won't give it 200 FPS - more on the line of 25-50 more FPS. Worth it price wise? No, do you get more performance? Yes.
K_r_a_u_s_e_r

 

only justifiable spending for that is if you coupled it with a 30 in or greater monitor, but still you'd run up a high bill anyways. for all intents and purposes, one gtx is more than enough for the 1920 x 1200 resolution. 

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#19 gregdpw
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but if i got the money to spend it should i get it?  i want the best
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#20 jfelisario
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get it, but how do you feel about getting another one? is it fine for you? you might as well pick up a larger resolution monitor while you are at it as well, some people are "bothered" at all that unused power "going to waste".
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#21 gregdpw
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yeah i just want to be set for a few years to come
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#22 ZBoater
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but if i got the money to spend it should i get it?  i want the bestgregdpw

I wouldn't.  Had I known what I know now, I would have gotten one GTX, and then when that wasn't cutting it anymore I would have already saved up $600 towards the latest card.  SLI makes sense on lower cards, not on the 8800GTX.

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Getting two high-end cards for anything less than 2560x1600 is good for nothing but saying "Look at my sig, my pocket book pwn's yours!". For lesser cards like the 8600 or the new ATI equivelant SLI's or crossfire is a good way to to expand and extend your pc's ability to play high end games for a longer time for a decent budget.
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#24 gregdpw
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but two cards will always be better than one
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#25 crazytom49
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If you are desperate to have SLi 8800gtxs, just get one now and then when the prices come down and one isn't enough anymore, get a second one. You've got nothing to lose by waiting a bit longer. 1 is enough for now at that res.
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#26 Miguel16
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but it will be good for the future right?  and i would get a better fps with two right?gregdpw

sure it will be good but for now is unneccesary...IF and WHEN it becomes neccessary, poick up a second for a far cheaper price

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#27 ZBoater
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but two cards will always be better than onegregdpw

Well, that is not always the case.  Two cards introduces a level of complexity into your system (SLI) and some games dont like SLI, and SLI drivers are sometimes "flaky", ESPECIALLY the 8800GTX SLI drivers.  Also, at lower resolutions, the performance increase with the second GTX may not even be noticeable.  You can go from 140fps to 180fps - you can see the increase running a benchmark program, but playing a game you won't be able to tell the difference.

Even at 2560x1600, for example, Doom3 runs a timedemo at 90fps with a single card, 140fps with dual cards.  Big deal!  When playing, you can't tell the difference - its exactly the same!!!!  If you have covered all your other bases (like processor, memory, hard drives, keyboard, mouse, etc, really nice monitor) and still have money left over, then go for it.  I would much rather have a 30" LCD and a single 8800GTX than a 24" LCD and dual GTXs.  If I had to choose. :D

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#28 gregdpw
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well i am looking into 2 gtx's  4 gigs  and a 1000 watt psu
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#29 NasHHHbk
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well i am looking into 2 gtx's 4 gigs and a 1000 watt psugregdpw

Though your point of "two is better than one" is still flawed like what ZBoater said :P

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#30 ZBoater
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well i am looking into 2 gtx's  4 gigs  and a 1000 watt psugregdpw

It doesnt get much better than that.  I would definintely recommend the Dell 30" at 2560x1600 instead of the 24" you are planning.   That setup screams BIG LCD!!!! :D

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#32 jfelisario
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[QUOTE="gregdpw"]well i am looking into 2 gtx's 4 gigs and a 1000 watt psuZBoater

It doesnt get much better than that. I would definintely recommend the Dell 30" at 2560x1600 instead of the 24" you are planning. That setup screams BIG LCD!!!! :D

 

yeah lets just say that its akin to a marathon runner doing a practice jog with the 24", and a full-blown marathon with the 30"

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#33 Wilburbud
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but two cards will always be better than onegregdpw

The only worry I have is that SLI does not seem widely supported for PC games. I read NVIDIA's driver release notes and bugs have to be constantly fixed for SLI.

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well i am looking into 2 gtx's 4 gigs and a 1000 watt psugregdpw

There is absolutely no reason what-so-ever to get a PSU that big. You will be running less efficiently then a lower wattage PSU.

I'm running a 790i mobo with two 9800GTX's in SLI, 5 fans (counting CPU), and 2 HDD's in Raid and I have yet to break 400w. You will save a ton of money, and not notice a single difference if you get a 600w PSU or so. Running closer to peak will also mean your PSU will be more efficient, so you may be burning less electricity as well.

Also, to address your original question. 1920x1200 is indeed better then 1080p. 1080p is 1920x1080 resolution. So you are getting 120 extra pixels of height. This means an extra 230,400 total pixels per image.

1920x1200 = 2,304,000 pixels = 16:10 aspect ratio

1920x1080 = 2,073,600 pixels = 16:9 aspect ratio

Really, they are virtually identical. Those 230,400 pixels are not going to be noticed very much once you get that high of a resolution anyways. It's just 10% less height on the image.

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#35 mastershake575
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[QUOTE="gregdpw"]well i am looking into 2 gtx's 4 gigs and a 1000 watt psuBgrngod

There is absolutely no reason what-so-ever to get a PSU that big. You will be running less efficiently then a lower wattage PSU.

Your pretty late there look when that message was posted
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#36 codezer0
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if by better, you mean a higher resolution, yes. How much better, as Einhander put it, depends on the game. Older games may not even go up that high a resolution, or will need to be patched for wide screen display support (or otherwise modified to fit). It also means you'll need to upgrade much more often (and/or go for high-end cards more frequently) if you intend on consistently playing newer titles at this resolution, with an appropriate amount of eye candy and framerate.
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#37 Bgrngod
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[QUOTE="Bgrngod"]

[QUOTE="gregdpw"]well i am looking into 2 gtx's 4 gigs and a 1000 watt psumastershake575

There is absolutely no reason what-so-ever to get a PSU that big. You will be running less efficiently then a lower wattage PSU.

Your pretty late there look when that message was posted

Holy hell. Why would someone bump a 1 year old thread? Freakinfrackityfrick.

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Your right, it's not terrible, but it's not good. 75Hz is the minimum I would want though. It's much easier on the eyes.Baselerd

lcd don't flicker no mater what refresh rate, makes no difference on the eyes

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#39 X360PS3AMD05
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They will look better because a Ps3 doesn't even hit 720p, but i think you should know this also depends on the developers of the games.