2 GeForce GTX 295 or 3 GeForce GTX 285 ?

What would you guys go with?

Which is better?

Can you explain why it would be better?

Because Tri-Sli 285s CAN and DO beat out Quad-Sli 295s BECAUSE the GPUs in the 295s are NOT as powerful as the ones in the 285s.

Because Tri-Sli 285s CAN and DO beat out Quad-Sli 295s BECAUSE the GPUs in the 295s are NOT as powerful as the ones in the 285s.

kilerchese

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Because Tri-Sli 285s CAN and DO beat out Quad-Sli 295s BECAUSE the GPUs in the 295s are NOT as powerful as the ones in the 285s.

RealKilla_789

thanks for your help greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE="RealKilla_789"][QUOTE="kilerchese"]

Because Tri-Sli 285s CAN and DO beat out Quad-Sli 295s BECAUSE the GPUs in the 295s are NOT as powerful as the ones in the 285s.

Duckman5

Neither, get 2 HD 5870s if you want top of the line.

Oh, and please, for the love of God don't give me anything like "I'll never buy ATI".

Wait for the 300s, they're not that far away. You'll be glad you did.

Neither, get 2 HD 5870s if you want top of the line.

Oh, and please, for the love of God don't give me anything like "I'll never buy ATI".

urdead18

[QUOTE="urdead18"]

Neither, get 2 HD 5870s if you want top of the line.

Oh, and please, for the love of God don't give me anything like "I'll never buy ATI".

ssaadd123

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[QUOTE="urdead18"]

Neither, get 2 HD 5870s if you want top of the line.

Oh, and please, for the love of God don't give me anything like "I'll never buy ATI".

iliatay

i could say the same thing about nvidia they have not produced a stable driver since 186 everything else crashes like crazy. its all based on experience and opinions for me nvidia drivers suck and with never go nvidia again

First, what in gos name are you running that requires anywhere near that amount of power.

if i had the money you're talking about using, i would certainly buy a mid range card to hold me over the month or two it is until the gt 300 cards come out. then use your current card as physics backup.paullywog

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[QUOTE="ssaadd123"]I hate ati. Their drivers are ****. Performance gets worse instead of getting better everytime they release a new driver.

i could say the same thing about nvidia they have not produced a stable driver since 186 everything else crashes like crazy. its all based on experience and opinions for me nvidia drivers suck and with never go nvidia again

ah its hit n miss with support for both companies.. there hasnt been ANY good support from either since maxtor stopped competing for space with them wayyyyyy back when. ufrthermore the two bicker like children all the time i say no more PR for either of them outside hardware reviews.. that should shut em both up! make em focus on whats important ya know.. quality!

BUT ATI IS Running fine as of now and as best performances of me i pick the best performance Screw the unsupported PhsyX that will get probabely Crushed by OPEN CL & BULLET http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/9/17/amd-supports-opencl-bullet3b-are-havok-and-physx-in-trouble.aspx

I don't know why so many ATI hater : as long you'r card ain't defective and you clean install driver it usally smooth people just over-drama of issue that happened with window vista : you get best performances in usally for price with ati

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/Radeon_HD_5870_CrossFire/7.html

but if he want to go nvidia then wait GT300 and ur 3-5 game title with phsyx cause according Bright side of new : it not going well for PhsyX & Havok Against Open CL & Bullet that is Fully support and will run in ATI Radeon Series

tough if nvidia made more powerful card for price i would have gone with them they just haven't made the Greatest motherboard support / video card until core i7 and yet they still lack in price and they must find at last at a 5870 1GB Performances killer : so it must have more fps or same fps as HD5870 1GB to worth investing into nvidia and there low supported phsyX

Currently HD5870 1GB is 380-400$ : HD5970 500-600$US (Releasing soon rumour to lauch in November 2009)

and aura if you'r dissing ATI manufacturer they mostly all to rma you'r defective video card most of the time Specially the exceptional XFX Who is claim to be the best costumer rating in both nvidia / ati video card

Go with what you want.. PhsyX & Cuda For more $$ then ATI and less performances and the dozen of game coming with dX11 that GT300 will support but it is unknow if GT300 release in december or january ? they rumour to lauch around here

First, what in gos name are you running that requires anywhere near that amount of power.

htekemerald

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First, what in gos name are you running that requires anywhere near that amount of power.

codezer0

Neither, get 2 HD 5870s if you want top of the line.

Oh, and please, for the love of God don't give me anything like "I'll never buy ATI".

urdead18

Wait for the new cards. Even if you get the GTX200 series anyway, there will be price drops.

[QUOTE="urdead18"]

Neither, get 2 HD 5870s if you want top of the line.

Oh, and please, for the love of God don't give me anything like "I'll never buy ATI".

Slig0

im with u on that one!!!!!!

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[QUOTE="urdead18"]

Neither, get 2 HD 5870s if you want top of the line.

Oh, and please, for the love of God don't give me anything like "I'll never buy ATI".

iliatay

im with u on that one!!!!!!

Haha, well we pretty much agree about everything :P. One thing, though. If you (and I) change to Intel, I think it wold not be a bad idea considering ATI. I know it is absurd, but it seems nVidia works a lot better on AMD while ATI takes he game on Intel. But still, poor optimization and horrible drivers have really sealed my experience with many ATI cards.

Neither, get 2 HD 5870s if you want top of the line.

Oh, and please, for the love of God don't give me anything like "I'll never buy ATI".

urdead18

serriously Codezer0 ? you AD such issue ? I never heard of people having any issue with HD4000 that lasted more then 3 month and that exclude me how ever my current 4870x2 is defective and in rma shipping to visiontek based if they give me a card that do no more OS / BIOS artifacting and crashing randomly which freeze it at same time : i can say it was boterhing but no such issue but damn 8800GS IS SLOWER on all the game i play it normal it the spare card of amd system of my dad the only spare gpu i do have that is PCI-E and in full-working state for the moment

you can be sure if they refuse to make it work the right way i'l be angry and post my venom about there reliability i ain't someone to be taken Ligthly if i don't near the performence in benchmark i draw my weapon and study the subject i aint fan to any brand only the strongest affect my decision


and the benchmark where Very Accurate i ad the fps it said at the 3-4fps near since they used core i7 and me core 2 duo so if id oc id get probabely the very same for all game : Sacred II fallen angel : Fallout 3 : Dawn of war II Beta : and so on where giving the fps given in benchmark which was pleasing overpowered as i wanted my card of 599$CAD bough at september 2008 i wanted how ever.. if i could sell it for 55-75% Of the sum i paid id sell it once it fixen to get more powerfull card be it nvidia setup or ati setup

Beside when i was building my pc i heard NF790i on top to cost me 400-450$ for Premium Quality mobo that equalize a 200-300$ X48 in performances ratio and feature it would have costedn me +300$ for a 1920x1200 optimized nvdia gear vs 4870x2 so i could have spend around 850-900$ +tax OF GPU vs 599$ +100$ on mobo tough i may have done that if i knew it was far more powerfull and stable and all such i pick the strongest

but if i go nvidia i got too chose find a nf790i ultra at low price that is stable and such if i where tO OC high as 4.3 to 4.5Ghz Core 2 duo E8600 at Safe voltage or Sell my PC for 75% of what i paid and Hopefully someone get it.and then get a CORE I7 920 build but from lot of Performance becnhmark ratio the top id get from doing so is +15fps on game VERY optimzied for Multi-core GTA IV Is a example of such feat

for other game it not enough close to worth a dramatic change before core i9 mainstream + overclocking or even intel sandybridge / AMD Bulldozer

You are still talking about that 9800pro? Ive heard that story for 3 yrs on here now. Cant we move onwith life. You slam ATI over an ordeal that took place years ago, things have changed.

If the TC can wait, I would wait for nVidia's new GPU to come out, instead of these DX10 cards. I waited off myself for new GPUs (was looking at 4890's for my 30" LCD) and I am doing Quad Xfire with 5890's. If nvidia releases a better card (which is not how it looks right now) then I will sell my 5890's and grab them, but it would have be alarger fps gain or the 5890's, like 40% gains, which I highly doubt we will see.

You are still talking about that 9800pro? Ive heard that story for 3 yrs on here now. Cant we move onwith life. You slam ATI over an ordeal that took place years ago, things have changed.

9mmSpliff

here's a review of GTX 295 Quad-SLI VS GTX 285 3-Way SLi from http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3520&p=7

it is right, that 285 has better GPU than 295...

but, 285 supports only 3-Way SLI, while 295 supports Quad-SLI, a total of 4 GPU..

that 1 GPU advantage, makes a difference...

So they do not support the x1600 anymore? Thats ridiculous, I thought they still supported anything before 9600. The last AGP card was the 3850, which is still a great card, whether or not you like the drivers.9mmSpliff

[QUOTE="kilerchese"]

Because Tri-Sli 285s CAN and DO beat out Quad-Sli 295s BECAUSE the GPUs in the 295s are NOT as powerful as the ones in the 285s.

RealKilla_789

Well it allows me to run Batman: AA at 1920*1080, maxed with 8xQ AA. In fact, it runs everything but Crysis maxed with very good framrates. I'd say it's fairly future proof.

Here's the current top 15 of the fastest graphics cards available:

1. Geforce GTX295 1792MB
2. Radeon HD4870X2 2GB
3. Radeon HD5870 1GB
4. Radeon HD5850 1GB
5. Radeon HD4850X2 2GB
6. Geforce GTX285 2GB
7. Geforce GTX285 1GB
8. Radeon HD4890 2GB
9. Radeon HD4890 1GB
10. Radeon HD4850X2 1GB
11. Geforce GTX 275 1792MB
12. Geforce GTX 280 1GB
13. Geforce GTX 275 896MB
14. Geforce 9800GX2 1GB
15. Geforce GTX 260 1792MB

well filthybastrd you'r conclusion is maybe right for average game % but here a benchmark that show 4870x2 can beat 295GTX depending of game only tough since 295GTX as basically more power then 4870x2 but from a different perspective

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/Radeon_HD_5870_CrossFire/8.html


here a proof but you'r chart as flaw since i tell you it not as easy since a HD4890 1GB OC Does Beat a 285GTX OC in several way if you looked in the Extravanga OC OF 4890 1GB From Xbits-lab or From AnandTech which reached Less high OC but similary performances where noticed in majority of benchmark which seem to did conclude as 4890 1GB performing better then GTX285

But Again a 285GTX is basically a 280GTX with a little more memory & power for a much higher price then was sold 280gTX back there :How ever Different motherboard / processor / & specially Graphic driver will result in alternate result with a card even on an ATI Optimized game as Fallout 3 / Dawn of war II

example 3 month older driver can result as : example : fallout 3 : 55-61fps and with the new driver : Fallout 3 65-80fps depending of the video card and if it overclock you see ? not that i pick ati as any kind of fanaticism but i do defend there right in the universe as gaming card for $$ And as long they can rivals with nvidia and outperform them in few game at 1920x1200 resolution for me they are a fine solution and a source of recommendation for few build as long it go with there budget

example someone come with a build he ask what strongest in majority of game : SLI 285GTX Or Crossfire 4890 1GB : then id probabely reply 285GTX but again id ask him do you want to pay 650-800$ when you pay only 430-450$ for Crossfire 4890 1GB ? or buy a 5870 1GB which come to same performances for 380$-420$ and consume less wats so more ecologic and crossifrable in future if you ask more power

as of now you should have include HD5850/5870 1GB in ur chart if you do a chart plz being the more close to a Logic Benchmark perspective rather then nvidia fan bashing approach ;) just came to say that i don't want you to look like a fool mate :D

Having run SLI for awhile now and trying out a bunch of different games I would say it's not really all it's crack up to be.

Bench marks for SLIlook great, but the games that support SLI and do it right seem to be too few for it to be worth it.

A lot of games just don't support it including new games like Aion.

I had problems in games that do support it like Oblivion. Seems to crash and performance stutters in game. I get better performance running just one card.

Perhaps others had better luck but if I had the chance again I would just go with a single card.

I have I7 overclocked to 3.7 GHz so CPU is not the bottle neck.

Honestly, you got the money to blow on either or you might as well get tri-fire 5870s..they would probably curb stomp both of those setups. Atleast you get DX11, why would you want to spend big money on 2 or 3 video card setup stuck with old technology? no logical sense at all.

i know what im doing.. see my pc, in sig

im upgrading to phenom II 940, and then later on a gtx300 series dx11 card.. might also use one of my 8800gt ocx, as a physx card... unless it gets in the way with whatever new x-fi soundcard i decide to get.

and i might upgrade ram from ddr2 800 ocz sli ram to some ddr2. 1066 ram.

then i should be able to play anything i want to at my monitor's native res... 1680x1050.. and lots of AA and AF. at 60fps

[QUOTE="9mmSpliff"]So they do not support the x1600 anymore? Thats ridiculous, I thought they still supported anything before 9600. The last AGP card was the 3850, which is still a great card, whether or not you like the drivers.codezer0