$520 gaming build.

different case.. more roomy, i also saved you 1 dollar (comes in white for no more money, blue for 3 dollars more):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119249

i see your board and doubledown to a cheaper one by ASUS. will still fit everything u desire, saves you 20 bucks doing it too..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131795

then laterally move your gpu to the HiS hd 7770 thats on sale this week for the same price, then you can save money on your powersupply and get something antec or corsair in the 450 watt category..

tada pwned this -----

I was about to pull the trigger and order, but my friend told me that the AMD CPU is not good for gaming and that a $80 intel CPU is better in performance so I should go with that or wait for Ivy Bridge to see if there are price drops for other CPUs. Is what he told me true? I'm trying to cover all my bases before I blow $500.iamthatdude_

here let me ask you somehting and if you answer know.. your buddy can get on his hands and knees and clean me...

do you plan on playing supreme commander 1 on a multimonitor setup or running BFBC2 in 3 screen eyefinity, how about toal war shogun 2 on an eyefinity setup? if the answer to all of those was no.. your buddy is basically full of biased nonsense and doesnt in fact have any idea that you can still play amny of todays games on cpu's far weaker than the fx-4100. cause what he is recommending to you is a SB celeron dual core.. and if he knows whats good for him.. will steer you clear of those dual cored garbadge processors. this being said their cpu is cheaper but the motherboard would be more for something halfway decent. so you would in the end spend basically the same amount of money anyway. better to get the quad and sit on it till something wiser comes on down such as say trinity or piledriver or maybe even IB if you can afford something worth discussion (judging by the way intel is moving).

but im afraid that the SB celerons shouldnt be used as multi-core processing is where games are going.. and if he owns one of thsoe dual cores.. better tell him to upgrade soon to the beefy core i5-2300 or better as when the enxt gen consoles start to launch.. he will be up ----'s creek without a paddle. to make matters worse some of those celerons are single core's XD single core cpu's were relvant for gaming back when in about 2005 - 2006.. today using one for gaming is like asking for someone to make a fire so you can burn your wallet

[QUOTE="iamthatdude_"]I was about to pull the trigger and order, but my friend told me that the AMD CPU is not good for gaming and that a $80 intel CPU is better in performance so I should go with that or wait for Ivy Bridge to see if there are price drops for other CPUs. Is what he told me true? I'm trying to cover all my bases before I blow $500.ionusX

here let me ask you somehting and if you answer know.. your buddy can get on his hands and knees and clean me...

do you plan on playing supreme commander 1 on a multimonitor setup or running BFBC2 in 3 screen eyefinity, how about toal war shogun 2 on an eyefinity setup? if the answer to all of those was no.. your buddy is basically full of biased nonsense and doesnt in fact have any idea that you can still play amny of todays games on cpu's far weaker than the fx-4100. cause what he is recommending to you is a SB celeron dual core.. and if he knows whats good for him.. will steer you clear of those dual cored garbadge processors. this being said their cpu is cheaper but the motherboard would be more for something halfway decent. so you would in the end spend basically the same amount of money anyway. better to get the quad and sit on it till something wiser comes on down such as say trinity or piledriver or maybe even IB if you can afford something worth discussion (judging by the way intel is moving).

but im afraid that the SB celerons shouldnt be used as multi-core processing is where games are going.. and if he owns one of thsoe dual cores.. better tell him to upgrade soon to the beefy core i5-2300 or better as when the enxt gen consoles start to launch.. he will be up ----'s creek without a paddle. to make matters worse some of those celerons are single core's XD single core cpu's were relvant for gaming back when in about 2005 - 2006.. today using one for gaming is like asking for someone to make a fire so you can burn your wallet

[QUOTE="ionusX"]

[QUOTE="iamthatdude_"]I was about to pull the trigger and order, but my friend told me that the AMD CPU is not good for gaming and that a $80 intel CPU is better in performance so I should go with that or wait for Ivy Bridge to see if there are price drops for other CPUs. Is what he told me true? I'm trying to cover all my bases before I blow $500.iamthatdude_

here let me ask you somehting and if you answer know.. your buddy can get on his hands and knees and clean me...

do you plan on playing supreme commander 1 on a multimonitor setup or running BFBC2 in 3 screen eyefinity, how about toal war shogun 2 on an eyefinity setup? if the answer to all of those was no.. your buddy is basically full of biased nonsense and doesnt in fact have any idea that you can still play amny of todays games on cpu's far weaker than the fx-4100. cause what he is recommending to you is a SB celeron dual core.. and if he knows whats good for him.. will steer you clear of those dual cored garbadge processors. this being said their cpu is cheaper but the motherboard would be more for something halfway decent. so you would in the end spend basically the same amount of money anyway. better to get the quad and sit on it till something wiser comes on down such as say trinity or piledriver or maybe even IB if you can afford something worth discussion (judging by the way intel is moving).

but im afraid that the SB celerons shouldnt be used as multi-core processing is where games are going.. and if he owns one of thsoe dual cores.. better tell him to upgrade soon to the beefy core i5-2300 or better as when the enxt gen consoles start to launch.. he will be up ----'s creek without a paddle. to make matters worse some of those celerons are single core's XD single core cpu's were relvant for gaming back when in about 2005 - 2006.. today using one for gaming is like asking for someone to make a fire so you can burn your wallet

toms hardware is also almsot always full of ----. they dont review right, they dont have accurate charts and they also are notorious for inconsistent results. on the gtx 680 review they had hd 7870 results that were different from the results of their 7870 review they had done one week earlier.. can you explain to me this??

so tell your friend to stop using toms and start thinking ahead rather than behind. gaming is moving to multi-core and in less than a year that dual core SB will be leaving you without a paddles floating ----'s creek. if you also look all they reviewed it on were games that generally recommend a dual core anyway.. as opposed to a quad. lets see them bench it again on supreme commander of bad company 2 or arma II..see how well it does without its dual-core friendly handlebars.

there isnt an excuse to get a quad core cpu these days their cheaper than msot of the sb dual cores anyway.. (g860 is $90, athlon II x4 is $75)

Not sure if mentioned, but what about the operating system..?

Would a athon II x4 be able to play new games on anything besides low settings?iamthatdude_

Would a athon II x4 be able to play new games on anything besides low settings?iamthatdude_

Congratulations, your current build is already more advanced than the next Xbox. Looks good though and pretty good price.

I already have a OS though its only 32-bit windows 7, but I think I can get 64-bit download free from school. I've been looking into the athlons so I may go with that. I wanted to ask though should I buy athlon ii X4 450 or the phenom ii X2 560 BE and try to unlock them to quad cores? Is there a good chance of them unlocking or is that a gamble I shouldn't take? I'm holding off until may to build so I can get all the info to make a good decison.iamthatdude_

I already have a OS though its only 32-bit windows 7, but I think I can get 64-bit download free from school. I've been looking into the athlons so I may go with that. I wanted to ask though should I buy athlon ii X4 450 or the phenom ii X2 560 BE and try to unlock them to quad cores? Is there a good chance of them unlocking or is that a gamble I shouldn't take? I'm holding off until may to build so I can get all the info to make a good decison.iamthatdude_

[QUOTE="iamthatdude_"]I already have a OS though its only 32-bit windows 7, but I think I can get 64-bit download free from school. I've been looking into the athlons so I may go with that. I wanted to ask though should I buy athlon ii X4 450 or the phenom ii X2 560 BE and try to unlock them to quad cores? Is there a good chance of them unlocking or is that a gamble I shouldn't take? I'm holding off until may to build so I can get all the info to make a good decison.red12355

[QUOTE="red12355"][QUOTE="iamthatdude_"]I already have a OS though its only 32-bit windows 7, but I think I can get 64-bit download free from school. I've been looking into the athlons so I may go with that. I wanted to ask though should I buy athlon ii X4 450 or the phenom ii X2 560 BE and try to unlock them to quad cores? Is there a good chance of them unlocking or is that a gamble I shouldn't take? I'm holding off until may to build so I can get all the info to make a good decison.ionusX

But when compared to the Athlon II x3 and Phenom II x2, I wouldn't be surprised if the celery turns out to be a fair bit faster.

[QUOTE="red12355"][QUOTE="iamthatdude_"]I already have a OS though its only 32-bit windows 7, but I think I can get 64-bit download free from school. I've been looking into the athlons so I may go with that. I wanted to ask though should I buy athlon ii X4 450 or the phenom ii X2 560 BE and try to unlock them to quad cores? Is there a good chance of them unlocking or is that a gamble I shouldn't take? I'm holding off until may to build so I can get all the info to make a good decison.ionusX

[QUOTE="ionusX"]

[QUOTE="red12355"] At that point you might as well get a Intel celeron. Both CPUs you listed are pretty weak.red12355

ALL next-gen platforms (omitting the wii-u) use an amd quad or hexa-core base don llano. which would mean all console ports (even good ones) will likely need a quad core cpu of some kind to run properly.. otherwise your results will be similar to those of a dual-core system running gta IV.. messy

[QUOTE="red12355"][QUOTE="ionusX"] celery also happens to be a dual core.. how many times we got to go over this??http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGpylpkEMkY&feature=related

ionusX

ALL next-gen platforms (omitting the wii-u) use an amd quad or hexa-core base don llano. which would mean all console ports (even good ones) will likely need a quad core cpu of some kind to run properly.. otherwise your results will be similar to those of a dual-core system running gta IV.. messy

mATX case --- ATX mobo, it wont fit, the case wont hold that mobo.GTR12

[QUOTE="ionusX"]

[QUOTE="red12355"] There's more to a CPU than cores..? How do you not know that.red12355

ALL next-gen platforms (omitting the wii-u) use an amd quad or hexa-core base don llano. which would mean all console ports (even good ones) will likely need a quad core cpu of some kind to run properly.. otherwise your results will be similar to those of a dual-core system running gta IV.. messy

Just to throw my advice in the mix: if you plan on playing a decent number of PC games at this point out, and plan on doing so for more than one year, I also advise buying a quad core CPU. As much of an AMD fanboy I have been, I personally think their CPUs have been crappy in contrast with Intel's for the past several years. At the moment, I would not advise anybody purchase CPUs over Intels. In terms of price/power I would google for various sites' numbers on performance for differently-priced CPUs. You can always find at least a few reputable sites that will show you a performance received per dollar spent curve.Gammit10

worth 60 more $

This was gonna be the pc i build.

AMD A8-3870K Unlocked Llano 3.0GHz

COOLER MASTER Elite 341 RC-341C-KKN1-GP

LG DVD Burner

BIOSTAR A75MH FM1 AMD A75 (Hudson D3) HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX AMD

COOLER MASTER Silent Pro M600

Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB

Western Digital Caviar Blue

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM

Subtotal $584.93

Or you could go with cheaper board http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138336

no usb 3.0 ports like in the 584$ build though.

This socket lga 775 biostar motherboard i have g41 m-7 is stable as hell one of the best boards ive owned actually no problems so that's why i would of gone with biostar plus if u overclock too high the pc just resets you dont even have to take the computer apart and take the battery out to clear overclock settings like i had to do with other brands.

Either get the FX-4100 or i3-2100. I wouldn't bother with anything else. Maybe a Phenom II X4 if it's cheap, but that's it.red12355

and if you live outside the US then its going to be amd as intel's offerings (omitting the Uk as well) tend to be alot higher in price.

3870k is badass

[QUOTE="GTR12"]mATX case --- ATX mobo, it wont fit, the case wont hold that mobo.wewantdoom4now