"7 Days to Die" early access alpha ripoff

7 Days to Die early access alpha has been $35 since it started on Steam months ago. Tons of people jumped onboard for what many defend as a "pre-order" with the extra benefit of early access, a chance to help test the game, and typically a discount of full price.

In return for paying this company $35 to test their alpha release the price has just been reduced to $25 with a big "**** you" message to everyone who paid $35 attached to it.

This is an example of why this early access shit is bad for pc gaming, I guarantee this will not be the last of it.

My friend, I saw this, I thought "this looks like a shitty Halflife 2 mod from 2004 and yet another Dayz/Minecraft cashin, I'm not paying that price, **** you".

I feel sorry for all these (apparently lots) of people buying any shit that looks like Dayz or Mincraft. It's a scam. Have some common sense.

Pretty much this it comes down to common sense. Looking at the game I can tell its in rough shape compared to DayZ or Rust. I don't mind jumping in early for a game that is playable, but this game looks clunky from the start.

The game is not a scam, try playing games first before saying such nonsense. Weither someone likes the game or not I don't really care, but stop talking rubbish when you havn't spent any time with the game. I have over 200 hours on the game and not one crash or huge bug, it is one of the most stable early access games I have. Hate the game after playing it? fine but to say its unplayable or that rust is more playable is not true at all. I have had crashes, lag and bugs galore in Rust and not had any crashes or anything big in 7 days to die happen.

I own Rust and 7 days to die and 7 days to die is far more enjoyable. It has a ton more to do in it than rust does and is alot more fun to play. It reminds me of State of Decay, Minecraft and Fallout combined, the crafting is done very well, as is the building, farming and scavenging.

I bought two copies when the alpha first came out about a year ago on there website and paid $35 for each of them, have played over 200 hours on the game, well worth the money.

And I don't see the issue with others getting the game for cheaper later on. Played this game more than 80% of the games I got last year also. For me 7 days to die and terraria are the best minecraft style games and stand well on there own.

People making a big deal about nothing, even when most have not even played it, grow up already people. Some games go cheaper later on and some get more expensive before release, not the first time. The only thing I've seen on these forums that is true is that yes it does have a simiair look to minecraft, but it is alot different and stands on its own two feet with many of its own aspects.

I see what they have done with the price as a good thing, even though I got it when it was 35. If they think they can sell more with it at 25 more power to them it is a great game even in early access. They have listened to the community which said $25 would be a better selling point. You can build huge castles, you can craft anything you can think of, you can scavenge cities and snow areas, you can play pvp or pve, you can try and survive at night when the Tower Defense aspect kicks in. Its great fun, a survival voxel based game that has tower defense at night, scavenging,crafting, farming and building during the day and anything else you want.

Anyone saying this game is a scam is extremely ignorant, the devs listen to there fans, they do some great updates and they have made a very enjoyable game. Looking at screenshots and thinking you know everything about a game is very childish. It is nto playable?? Try playing the damn game first!! It is MUCH more playable than Rust is atm! I honestly feel bad for you people who judge a game by a few screenshots.

I have had a blast on the following early access games so far: DayZ, 7 Days to Die, Divinity Original Sin and Starbound, alot mroe fun than most finished games I have bought the last few years. The only early access game I wish I didn't back is Rust. For some of you to say Rust is more playable is laughable, maybe try playing both games and then making a decision. If you don't like the look fo 7 days to die then fine but don't spread lies around that it is a scam or that its unplayable (how is it unplayable when ive had a blast and put in over 200 hours?)

Pretty lame move on behalf of the developer, but it's a rather minor price deduction. The whiners are certainly in the minority, or are using this as part of their anti-Early Access agenda.

Patch Feedback Page

"I will give you guys props, everyone wanted the price to come down, the high price for an Alpha was what was holding alot of people including some of my friends from picking up 7DTD. I'm happy with my purchase and I've had a blast playing with my close friends and running a 24/7 Dedicated server. Thanks, guys!"

"Bought the game for full price and have got well more that $35 worth of fun out it I would buy it for that price again so this doesn't bother me. The Fun Pimps are Pimps!"

"i bought game for full price. and i am still happy about it. becouse i whas in the game mutch sooner and those who waited and sucking atm on survival.. they probly useing creator tools to survive, but now when its cheapyer. i might buy few games and gift them away for friends so they can come online aswell :) so more community on my server :))"

"I paid 35 for it and now its selling for 25 now. cool. Thats kinda what happens to a game after time passes any other game that would have been 45 do you think those people should get a perk too because they paid 10 dollars more?"

"Hopefully the price drop will get more people interested in funding the game, I paid what I paid knowing this could go belly up and I get just the Alpha as I paid for it, everything else is gravy. The game developers keep talking/listening to the fans and work to have regular updates thing could be much worse. Lower Price can mean more money coming in and the ability to pay people to spend more time on development."

"I'm all for it. As someone who has purchased several copies, I've had too many friends hold out on buying this because "WTF kind of alpha sells for 35 bucks?"

"For those of you upset about the decline in price, I understand your concerns. But the truth is you paid to have access to the game before anyone else did. You paid for earlier access. You got earlier access. I personally have gotten several hundred hours of play time out of this. If the time you spent already in-game isn't worth the extra 10 bucks to you, maybe you shouldn't be sponsoring alphas this early on?"

"You cannot compare the Kickstarter price to the normal price of a game on steam. Kickstarter was to support the development. You are part of a 'select few' that are basically 'funding it' for the game to even happen. But once they reached their goal to fund it and went on steam, they were selling a normal game for anyone who wants to play it. Now it's not about funding (to make it a reality) anymore, now it is already reality and it's about making money (which is a good thing, I like when people make money if they have/had a great idea and work(ed) hard for it). And obviously the positive side effects of boosting the player base, making it more enjoyable for everyone who's playing it.

Again: It's a very wise decision on the part of the devs, thank you for that. Now it's up to us players to spread the word to our friends, etc."

Lol @ "looks clunky" comments. Maybe it has something to do with the game not being anywhere near finished. Just maybe...

7 Days to Die was never really good IMO anyway; from all those zombie surviving games I think Rust is the most enjoyable of em all.

You can post all the "bend me over and give it to me again" posts you want bro, this is still bad for pc gaming. But nah I am just a whiner using this for my agenda, really dude? Your type is what is screwing up a hobby I have had for over 20 years, so excuse me if I call bullshit to this "agenda" crap you are talking about. What a terrible precedent to set for future early access games.

What is hilarious is the reasons for defending this early access shit is like a moving target. First it was a pre-order, then EQ Next Landmark came out which is free to play but charging for early access alpha. Another excuse was how you get the game at a discount.....well guess that one is out the fucking window too ain't it? So what excuse is next? It is a minor price reduction? Was that it?

You know what I am going to do? I am going to buy Elder Scrolls Online and I don't even like the game. But you know what, these guys have valued my testing to the point they gave me full access to their game for FREE. This is a game that is $60 with a monthly sub tacked onto it, and no charge for early access. Imagine that shit. THAT I will reward with my money.

I don't see how this has anything to do with the early access debate. Any game you buy will be cheaper later down the road.

It's a dick move buy the devs for sure.

Talk about missing the point.....

Ok, how about MMO that you pay 60$ and after a year it becomes free to play...

On the topic, it would be nice of the devs to give those who payed 35$ a 10$ in game currency worth items etc

so we paid abit extra... and got to play it early.... isnt this how things work? i think its worth the full price i payed for it...no regrets here

Not really actually you pay to play early unfinished product.

Once upon a time those alphas and betas were called demos and they were available to download month or two before release for free

People getting to play and pay for what they want is a good thing. If all these people got hundreds of hours of play time and are satisfied with their purchases, how exactly did they get ripped off? It's only bad because you think everyone should share your opinion and stop funding videogames no publishers want to fund. You just love to make everyone's purchasing decisions for them, don't you?

You know what I am going to do? I am going to buy Elder Scrolls Online and I don't even like the game. But you know what, these guys have valued my testing to the point they gave me full access to their game for FREE. This is a game that is $60 with a monthly sub tacked onto it, and no charge for early access. Imagine that shit. THAT I will reward with my money.'

You didn't alpha test TES - did you? Did you get input on adding any features to the game? Didn't think so. Maybe one day you'll learn the difference between an alpha and beta lol - once you learn that difference then maybe you'll be able to comprehend the value of being able to add game features to a game by merely voicing your opinion. All good games listen to their community, don't they? ;)

Dude who can't back up his points with reason so he posts memes to discredit others, awesome tactic bro.

You are the one who defended early access alphas as "discounted pre-orders" in a thousand other posts, yet here we are in a case where people pay MORE than the final release and you are still defending with some other bullshit excuse. The fact is you were talking out of your ass before when you came up with all of these reasons, because they have all been debunked by EQ Next and 7 Days to Die yet here you are defending it still. You 100% discredited yourself on this fact alone.

You cannot preach "discounted pre-order" as the reason paying to alpha test is okay one day then change it up the next when a free to play game charges (EQNext Landmark) or when a game charges a higher price to alpha test than it does for release and kep any ounce of credibility.

And actually yes I did test alpha material for ESO, so get your facts straight before spewing out your ass. I have been pc gaming for over 20 years, I was testing games when you were probably still a twinkle in your daddy's eye. Keep bending over for these companies, I am sure pretty soon you will be defending them charging by the hour to test their shit for them.

Planetary Annihilation did this too, relax.

The reason they do this is to not screw over Kickstarter people who paid more. If you paid more during the kickstarter you could get the game earlier, hence why the alpha costs more than the beta.

that has been explained to death..yet the steam community rages on

I have nothing against Early Access but I do have something against the price going down a year or so later. That's pretty fucked up. The price should only go up so that the people who have bought into Early Access don't get shafted.

That doesn't mean everybody is aware of it. Not everyone pays attention to all the news that comes out of kickstarters.

I have the same feeling about telltale reducing their prices or having sales on their episodic games. It just screws over the people who were loyal at launch.

Doesn't mean anybody cares either. People here think they're entitled to play all the biggest upcoming games for free, before the games are even out yet. They actually think they're doing the developers a service by playing their game at their own leisure and having fun.

Oh and BTW it's now offered on Steam as a 2 pack for 25$ that means 2 copies XD 17.5$ for a copy

@KHAndAnime I refuse to re-quote and respond to 50 more lines of bs so I will end with this. Every excuse you have used to defend this crap has been proven to be bs, yet you continue to muster more bs. Your credibility is gone on this issue, no matter how long of an essay you muster or how many personal attacks you can throw in will not change that.

As for my alpha testing ESO material, there is something called the Psijic Order which is a fulltime testing contingent that alpha tests material before it goes to the beta testers for the free weekends and stress tests. We are doing the Imperial Edition content now. Some makes it in, some does not.....due to our testing. That is alpha testing by definition.

So here I am bolstering my credibility while you once again diminish yours. You are no longer worth my time.

In case you need more proof...pay attention to the top line of the email I forwarded to myself, just so you know it is me...hear that sound? It is your credibility flying away.....

@vfibsux said:

@KHAndAnime I refuse to re-quote and respond to 50 more lines of bs so I will end with this. Every excuse you have used to defend this crap has been proven to be bs, yet you continue to muster more bs. Your credibility is gone on this issue, no matter how long of an essay you muster or how many personal attacks you can throw in will not change that.

As for my alpha testing ESO material, there is something called the Psijic Order which is a fulltime testing contingent that alpha tests material before it goes to the beta testers for the free weekends and stress tests. We are doing the Imperial Edition content now. Some makes it in, some does not.....due to our testing. That is alpha testing by definition.

So here I am bolstering my credibility while you once again diminish yours. You are no longer worth my time.

In case you need more proof...pay attention to the top line of the email I forwarded to myself, just so you know it is me...hear that sound? It is your credibility flying away.....

Says "Beta" right there in the subject. Amazing self-ownage. Thanks for that. I've never seen someone do that before (on purpose...that is)

99% of "early access" games are scam

You always pay more when you buy it early.

If you don't want to pay more, buy it later.

Not sure why you only tie this to "early access". While I heartedly dislike "early access", this isn't a good reason to not like it. Full retail games do the same exact thing.

there is no in game currency. this isnt the warz.

so much this.

Cant wait for alpha 7 to come at the end of february. New chemistry, new cooking, smooth terrain, stealth implemented. So many great new things coming.

@KHAndAnime said:

@vfibsux said:

@KHAndAnime I refuse to re-quote and respond to 50 more lines of bs so I will end with this. Every excuse you have used to defend this crap has been proven to be bs, yet you continue to muster more bs. Your credibility is gone on this issue, no matter how long of an essay you muster or how many personal attacks you can throw in will not change that.

As for my alpha testing ESO material, there is something called the Psijic Order which is a fulltime testing contingent that alpha tests material before it goes to the beta testers for the free weekends and stress tests. We are doing the Imperial Edition content now. Some makes it in, some does not.....due to our testing. That is alpha testing by definition.

So here I am bolstering my credibility while you once again diminish yours. You are no longer worth my time.

In case you need more proof...pay attention to the top line of the email I forwarded to myself, just so you know it is me...hear that sound? It is your credibility flying away.....

Says "Beta" right there in the subject. Amazing self-ownage. Thanks for that. I've never seen someone do that before (on purpose...that is)

Seriously dude, the game is in beta phase.....we ALPHA test the material before it goes into beta testing. We have access to crap the rest of the beta participants do not. You're a tool man, seriously.

loyal? lol..false sense of entitlement FTL