It depends on what games you are playing. If you are running games that recommend a X2 beyond a 5000 then yes you will have a bottleneck. But most games dont even need a X2 5000 yet, but to answer your question the 7750 would be a nice upgrade and would help you out on those games that can use a better cpu. But also check and see whats causing your issues if its a games that doesnt need better then a x2 5000, defrag,scan for virus/spyware,update all your drivers etc.
Some thing isnt right, Do you have any other games you can try out? Like something that needs a good gpu to run on high, If not here download FEAR Combat and see what it does on max settings. You should get average of 90 fps with a GTX 260
Drivers updated? haha:) If you are going to upgrade to a 7750 amd dual core, you might as well just put a phenom II, it isnt that much mroe expensive, a much better upgrade and it is backwards compatible with am2. How much fps do you get in Azeroth? (not outland or northrend).
Thats your issue, The GTX 260 needs a 500 watt with 38A on the 12v rail at least, your psu only has 34A. Heres an alright psu if you dont have the cash and has the power you will need.
So i can put my money into a new PSU instead of a cpu, and you are positive that is the issue?
Zripp
Put it this way I had a Sempron 3300 witha 7600gs and I maxed FEAR besides AA and it got an average of 90 fps. Your cpu isnt the issue your cpu will run anygame out there just fine.
I don't think it's a PSU issue. If it was the PSU would blow up, not reduce frame rate. It's either going to get power or it isn't. I'm thinking he has his drivers not optimized correctly or something along those lines. Try this: http://www.tweakguides.com/NVFORCE_1.html
I don't think it's a PSU issue. If it was the PSU would blow up, not reduce frame rate. It's either going to get power or it isn't. I'm thinking he has his drivers not optimized correctly or something along those lines. Try this: http://www.tweakguides.com/NVFORCE_1.htmld-rtyboy
His Psu wont blow up, not right away more like down the line and since he has a descent psu it would take alot longer then a el cheapo psu. Not having enough power isnt good for the hardware when something is undervolted its just as bad as overvoltaged like too much overclocking.
I agree with carraher, the Powersupply sounds like the issue, Reccomended is 600w for that card, but a good 500w supply will handle it, the stealth Xtremes are good and reliable, so I think you should get one..
how is a 5000 a bottleneck? honestly ppl need to stop calling every little issue with their pc a bottleneck
kemar7856
Ok, i am 16 years old and this is the first computer i have ever built. When i first got this graphics card i was not getting the fps i thought i should be, so i asked around and many people said that my cpu might have been bottlenecking. THAT IS ALL. So don't act like i have a $12,000 computer and am complaining cause i am not happy with it. I didnt even know what the hell a bottleneck was at first, cause i dont really know a lot of this ****.
[QUOTE="d-rtyboy"]I don't think it's a PSU issue. If it was the PSU would blow up, not reduce frame rate. It's either going to get power or it isn't. I'm thinking he has his drivers not optimized correctly or something along those lines. Try this: http://www.tweakguides.com/NVFORCE_1.html04dcarraher
His Psu wont blow up, not right away more like down the line and since he has a descent psu it would take alot longer then a el cheapo psu. Not having enough power isnt good for the hardware when something is undervolted its just as bad as overvoltaged like too much overclocking. I understand that much, but I've never ever heard of the PSU affecting frames per second. Sure, eventually running high wattage equipment on his PSU may take its toll, as his computer might crap out, but so long as it boots and does everything it's supposed to do, the PSU isn't going to bottleneck FPS. That said, the 7750 is a low power CPU, and Antec is a descent PSU company, so I don't see a problem with his PSU. If he just has, the motherboard, cpu, gpu, 2 sticks of memory, a cd/dvd/bluray drive and a hard drive, 500 watts should be enough. Unless he has tons of add ons attached that he's not telling us about.
Thats your issue, The GTX 260 needs a 500 watt with 38A on the 12v rail at least, your psu only has 34A. Heres an alright psu if you dont have the cash and has the power you will need.
how is a 5000 a bottleneck? honestly ppl need to stop calling every little issue with their pc a bottleneck
kemar7856
if its slowing you down its a bottleneck if he upgraded to a more powerful cpu like a 7750 he would notice a fps increase in games especially with a gtx260 altough im not sure how much faster it would be if he could upgrade to a phenom II it would be more worth the money IMO
Come on, a X2 5000 is more then enough for a GTX 260 and WoW or even FEAR, his psu is the issue, Your 4870 actually draws less power through the motherboard (12v rail) then a GTX 260. Plus the X2 7750 and X2 5000 draw about same power. But the wattage of a psu is not all what you need. When a card need a a psu that has 38 A and you only have 34A thats the problem no matter if he has a good psu its still not going to be supplying enough power which slows things down and can damage things down the road if the psu is push to hard for too long.
"his psu is the issue" How? I realize this isn't the days of p2/3 where 300 watts would be way more than you would ever use, but the system is either going to get the power it needs or it isn't. If it was the PSU it wouldn't boot or it would crash or freeze during games. He is having a frame rate issue, which is far more likely due to poorly configured or misconfigured drivers, or in game settings or along those lines.
His PSU is NOT the issue, unless something is actually wrong with it. The GTX 260 only takes about 15A. His psu is enough.Mr_NoName111
If min. for a GTX 260 is a 500w 38A and he has 500w 34A recomended is 600w 40A+, trust me guys his psu is the most likely his problem, But you have a 600w psu with 45A+ you have nothing to worry about the antec 500w wasnt designed to run such a big load like sli or higher ended cards. Come on, there isnt much you can screw up with drivers even if they were out of date its a 2005 game and hes having issues with WoW and hes not getting the performance as he should with even FEAR.
PSU's have absolutely nothing to do with frame rate. They power the computer, that's it. However, video drivers have everything to do with frame rate. Even new drivers have been known to break old games unintentionally.
how is a 5000 a bottleneck? honestly ppl need to stop calling every little issue with their pc a bottleneck
johnny27
if its slowing you down its a bottleneck if he upgraded to a more powerful cpu like a 7750 he would notice a fps increase in games especially with a gtx260 altough im not sure how much faster it would be if he could upgrade to a phenom II it would be more worth the money IMO um thats because its a better cpu???? and were talking about old games like fear and world of warcraft which has recommended specs under the 5000+
PSU's have absolutely nothing to do with frame rate. They power the computer, that's it. However, video drivers have everything to do with frame rate. Even new drivers have been known to break old games unintentionally.d-rtyboy
Running the psu at 100 load isnt good for it in the long run, power supply is main backbone in the pc if theres not enough power to go around what happens???? slower performance, crashes,and finally the psu crapping out and might take parts with it. If the gpu isnt getting enough power is slows down doesnt run at 100%. And even if hes problem isnt his psu he will be better of getting a better psu for the long run.
This is a ton of information, and i am starting to believe that it is indead my psu. I did notice that when i would try to turn the core clock up to its stock settings the screen would freeze and crash. The EVGA precision program that came with the card allows you to adjust that very easily, and it was at 300 clock speed...and wont go above 600 without being unstable. This makes me believe that their really is not enough power to go full speed so it is slowing itself down
This is a ton of information, and i am starting to believe that it is indead my psu. I did notice that when i would try to turn the core clock up to its stock settings the screen would freeze and crash. The EVGA precision program that came with the card allows you to adjust that very easily, and it was at 300 clock speed...and wont go above 600 without being unstable. This makes me believe that their really is not enough power to go full speed so it is slowing itself down
Zripp
Of course it's going to crash when you overclock it without the proper precautions. That would happen if you had your computer connected directly to a nuclear power plant. Also, overclocking is just confounding the issue. I'd really suggest going over that tweakguides tutorial I linked to above. Plus, find your driver version number and check the world of warcraft forum and see if people are having similar issues.
Running the psu at 100 load isnt good for it in the long run
I know that. Please show me a benchmark that demonstrates the correlation between wattage and frame rate. I have never ever seen a benchmark show that there is any, much less a causational factor. If the problem is frame rate, the cause is not the PSU. ESPECIALLY considering that the frame rate problem is isolated to one game.
It isnt just with one game he's having the issues. You have 2 12v rails, each of which is limited to 17A total. Your PSU likely doesn't output 34A total, it may output something lesser, which is then split into the two regulated rails. What this means is that if either rail pulls more than 17A, or the combined draw of the two rails together exceeds the PSU's total 12v output your going to run into issues.
It isnt just with one game he's having the issues.
04dcarraher
eh...
At the moment i have running at about 3/4 max setting and get about 40-50 in azeroth. It is the same as outland and northrend.
Zripp
Ok..I tried Fear combat and would say i averaged at around 70fps on max settings.
Zripp
Sorry man, but the PSU just doesn't have anything to do with frame rate. Most likely there is some driver issue with WoW and the best solution for him would be to go over to the Warcraft forum and ask there or hope someone who has had this same issue he has posts here.
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