8800 GT or wait for Geforce 9???

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#1 hbkforever
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Hey all... I have 3 questions... 1. what is the exact date the geforce 9 cards will be released? (we all know it's in Q4) 2. What will be difference between the geforce 8 & geforce 9 cards? 3. I know that geforce 9 will support DX10.1, which the 8 series doesnt, but is it a big deal at all? The only thing that keeps me from chucking my century old radeon 9200 out the window and buy a geforce 8800 GT is the fact that it doesnt support the DX10.1.... which makes me want to wait for the 9 series and anymore info on the geforce 9 will be welcome... thanks!
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#2 dsgsdfgf
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I'm not so sure it will be out this year.
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#3 darkfox101
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I just googled and it said the 9 series will be released sometime in Nov.. what i really waht to know is how much will the 8800 drop in price? I expect to pick one up once its lower than 200
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#4 KiRkHaMet
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lies. the 8800 series does support the 10.1 updates. read up on them

the only difference between dx10 and dx10.1 is that they make some features mandatory (like every dx10.1 spec hardware NEEDS those feature) the 8800 series already has them options.

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#5 dsgsdfgf
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All of this is just rumours, only nvidia knows.
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#6 prowler666
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nvidia G92 comes out november, yes, but it's not the 9 series people thought first, but it's the 8800 GT. there will be more G92 based cards out later, but maybe not this year. haven't found any info about them.
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#7 PullTheTricker
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My guess is 9 series will arrive this december or at least end november. Consumers need the oppurtunity to max out all those upcoming demandinggames like Crysisthis and next month.
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#8 prowler666
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just imagine what they can do with that G92... 8800 GT is just a taste of what's coming next. it's a single-slot card that's almost as powerful as 8800 GTX.

when they push G92 to a dual-slot monster-sized beast, it's gonna kill everyone and everything :D

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i seriously dont think the 9xxx cards will be coming out this year.. i might be terribly wrong but my theory is based around this:

1) the 9 series cards will wupport pci2....there arent any motherboards tht i knw of coming out this year which support pci2

2) the 9 series card will bottleneck 99% of all the cpus out there (from what i heard)

3) the only game which is really hard to max out is Crysis...releasing a card just fo one game doesnt sound rite.

4) nvidia doesnt usually releasy two different series cards in less than 3 months. for example 8800gt and 9xxx

5)even if intel does release a new processor and nvidia releases this card and suddenly there are new mobo which support pci2...how many ppl will buy all of this?

i am not saying tht it is impossible for all of this new technology to come out but i think it wont happen next month or the month after tht. new years eve sounds like the best time they could do it but even tht is hard to say.....far cry 2 will be coming out early next year so releasing a gpu then will make more sense. plus intel is releasing their new processors next year so new mobos will be made to support the new cpu and from what i knw there are new mobos made coz of the release of the new processors.. once again i might be wrong and nvidia does release their new cards next month then i will be realllllllllly shocked

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#10 Manly-manly-man
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According to Crytek, there is an announcement coming in mid-November on new nVidia cards.
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#11 Staryoshi87
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In response to #1 from dmn_fox, PCIE2.0 is supported by the X38 line of Intel Motherboards, I believe.
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#12 Staryoshi87
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The proof is in the pudding :) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131219
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#13 dmn_fox
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wow i never heard of tht. so this could mean tht there is a higher probabilty tht nvidia might unleash their beast in november. but wat i cant take in is the fact tht they havent made it official yet. i dont believe thtthey will inform us a week b4 the release. usually they tell us a month in advance. it givs us some time to save up
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Just letting you know that PCIE2.0 (and DDR3 for those out of the loop :)) really do exist... although as usual they won't be useful for half a year :D
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#15 Miguel16
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is evga allowing stepup to 8800GT. Ill step up today if thats the case. will only be about 10 bucks
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#16 jimmypop_04
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Oh i can't wait for the Geforce 9 series to come out...but then geforce 10 will be coming out. etc... I too am going to upgrade my rig within the next year but I don't want to buy things too early and be stuck behind the curve. I'll be a sucker and get DDR3, even though it doesn't seem to be doing well performance wise, I'll get PCI-e2 because it will be useful, and then ill be stuck with a bottleneck at the CPU, unless of I get the crazy mad 1200$ CPU. But to answer your question if you can SLI the 8800 GT it looks as if it will be well worth your money.
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#17 Luminouslight
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THat's why I am very tenative on buying the 8800gt, the 9 series is going to wipe the floor. I don't plan on upgrading in a another year or 2 however.
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#18 Swiftstrike5
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Who was that person who said "If nvidia comes out with a new high-end card by the end of this year, I will buy it for you." I'm gona search gamespot until I find this guy.
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i seriously dont think the 9xxx cards will be coming out this year.. i might be terribly wrong but my theory is based around this:

1) the 9 series cards will wupport pci2....there arent any motherboards tht i knw of coming out this year which support pci2

2) the 9 series card will bottleneck 99% of all the cpus out there (from what i heard)

3) the only game which is really hard to max out is Crysis...releasing a card just fo one game doesnt sound rite.

4) nvidia doesnt usually releasy two different series cards in less than 3 months. for example 8800gt and 9xxx

5)even if intel does release a new processor and nvidia releases this card and suddenly there are new mobo which support pci2...how many ppl will buy all of this?

i am not saying tht it is impossible for all of this new technology to come out but i think it wont happen next month or the month after tht. new years eve sounds like the best time they could do it but even tht is hard to say.....far cry 2 will be coming out early next year so releasing a gpu then will make more sense. plus intel is releasing their new processors next year so new mobos will be made to support the new cpu and from what i knw there are new mobos made coz of the release of the new processors.. once again i might be wrong and nvidia does release their new cards next month then i will be realllllllllly shockeddmn_fox

Every single one of your points are wrong...

1) There are a few pci-e2.0 boards out right now, with quite a few more coming out before the end of the year. Plus a pci-e2.0 card works in pci-e1.1
2) Practically impossible, if you are playing at any normal resolution with high settings...
3) I didn't realize new GPUs are only be used on one game, G80 was released for NO game.
4) Hmmm.... they have in the past. G80 = Nov | 7900GS=Sept Yeah, I guess it is more like 2 months...
5)There are always people that buy the latest and greatest. Head on over to XtremeSystems.

BTW- Penryn is being launched Nov. X38 and X48 is coming out now and Nov as well.
Phenom is being launched Nov, along with HD3800 series and AMD's new chipsets, RD790/RS790/RD780 etc. which will also support pci-e2.0.

Please do some research before you just post your uneducated opinion.

wow i never heard of tht. so this could mean tht there is a higher probabilty tht nvidia might unleash their beast in november. but wat i cant take in is the fact tht they havent made it official yet. i dont believe thtthey will inform us a week b4 the release. usually they tell us a month in advance. it givs us some time to save updmn_fox

True for the G92, but not for the 8800Ultra.
We knew nothing about the Ultra until a week before launch.

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#20 gthull644
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The G92 is the 8800gt Because back the G92 was the 9800
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[QUOTE="dmn_fox"]i seriously dont think the 9xxx cards will be coming out this year.. i might be terribly wrong but my theory is based around this:

1) the 9 series cards will wupport pci2....there arent any motherboards tht i knw of coming out this year which support pci2

2) the 9 series card will bottleneck 99% of all the cpus out there (from what i heard)

3) the only game which is really hard to max out is Crysis...releasing a card just fo one game doesnt sound rite.

4) nvidia doesnt usually releasy two different series cards in less than 3 months. for example 8800gt and 9xxx

5)even if intel does release a new processor and nvidia releases this card and suddenly there are new mobo which support pci2...how many ppl will buy all of this?

i am not saying tht it is impossible for all of this new technology to come out but i think it wont happen next month or the month after tht. new years eve sounds like the best time they could do it but even tht is hard to say.....far cry 2 will be coming out early next year so releasing a gpu then will make more sense. plus intel is releasing their new processors next year so new mobos will be made to support the new cpu and from what i knw there are new mobos made coz of the release of the new processors.. once again i might be wrong and nvidia does release their new cards next month then i will be realllllllllly shockedLordEC911

Every single one of your points are wrong...

1) There are a few pci-e2.0 boards out right now, with quite a few more coming out before the end of the year. Plus a pci-e2.0 card works in pci-e1.1
2) Practically impossible, if you are playing at any normal resolution with high settings...
3) I didn't realize new GPUs are only be used on one game, G80 was released for NO game.
4) Hmmm.... they have in the past. G80 = Nov | 7900GS=Sept Yeah, I guess it is more like 2 months...
5)There are always people that buy the latest and greatest. Head on over to XtremeSystems.

BTW- Penryn is being launched Nov. X38 and X48 is coming out now and Nov as well.
Phenom is being launched Nov, along with HD3800 series and AMD's new chipsets, RD790/RS790/RD780 etc. which will also support pci-e2.0.

Please do some research before you just post your uneducated opinion.

wow i never heard of tht. so this could mean tht there is a higher probabilty tht nvidia might unleash their beast in november. but wat i cant take in is the fact tht they havent made it official yet. i dont believe thtthey will inform us a week b4 the release. usually they tell us a month in advance. it givs us some time to save updmn_fox

True for the G92, but not for the 8800Ultra.
We knew nothing about the Ultra until a week before launch.

x48 out on Nov really!?!?! I could've sworn I saw it somewhere saying it was coming out near Jan or Feb 08

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#22 LordEC911
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x48 on NOV really!?!?!modai119

x48 is just a speed binned x38...
Nothing to get that excited over, just Intel trying to make an extra premium on the slightly better boards.

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#23 WuTangG
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Apparantly its Q2 2008, and im guessing its going to be early Q3, worst case scenario Q4. Trust me it happens. Nonetheless, the 8800 GT is really tempting, i practically gave up on PC gaming because its so demanding but as a result i want to get back in. Next year, its going to be a full on G90 upgrade on my ageing 939 system
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#24 WuTangG
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One question, the GeForce 9xxx and ATi HD 3xxx series, will they be ONLY PCI 2.0?
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#25 modai119
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To my knowledge as of our 16x pci-e slot are still not being 100% used so the 9 series may or may not be bottlenecked with pci-e 16x
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#26 alphatango1
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Im in a similar position.

Im buying an Aurora pc. The choice is buy an ultra, buy dual 8800 GT's or wait for the 9 series. All indications suggest a Nov/dec release and a reduction in the GT prices sort of confirm this. Regardles, Im leaning towards the dual 8800. You have to look at compatibilty issues and the drivers etc. There will be certain teething problems as experieced withv the 8800 series. On the other hand though , the new intels are coming out at about the same time, so core cpu's should drop in price. Performance wise I would think dual 8800 would out preform a 9 series, but who knows?

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#27 Mam00th
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Well I think you should wait for the GeForce 3billion it will be so much better

No but seriously, you can always wait to get something better butat some pointyougot to hop in.

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#28 PullTheTricker
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The 9 series will be much more expensive and 8800gt even cheaper and more attractive. I will probably go for the 8800gt as soon as possible.

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if youre waiting, then wait for all the 8 series to be out. Cause we wont see a 9 series till 2009 I think. And even if nVidia pushes it out the door to beat ATI....it will have once again, brutal drivers from nVidia.
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#30 Menfear
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The 9xx series comes out in September 08, as far as I know
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5)even if intel does release a new processor and nvidia releases this card and suddenly there are new mobo which support pci2...how many ppl will buy all of this?

dmn_fox

I WILL!! lol i need to update, its time, my cpu is laggin like crazy now, idk why (athlon x2 dual core 4400) imm only on the internte and the "CPU usage" on the task manager is jumpin to like 4 to 30 to 80 randomly, and crysis was dying when i tried it earlier lol

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#32 usule
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[QUOTE="dmn_fox"]

5)even if intel does release a new processor and nvidia releases this card and suddenly there are new mobo which support pci2...how many ppl will buy all of this?

Cajones_Del_Mar

I WILL!! lol i need to update, its time, my cpu is laggin like crazy now, idk why (athlon x2 dual core 4400) imm only on the internte and the "CPU usage" on the task manager is jumpin to like 4 to 30 to 80 randomly, and crysis was dying when i tried it earlier lol

Sorry to lasy for quotes, but according to tests made on crysis, what really matters is a good gpu and a descent cpu, ( yours would be just fine). When they were testing crysis, only 30 to 40 percent of their average core 2 duo was being used...

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#33 littlehelp
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According to Crytek, there is an announcement coming in mid-November on new nVidia cards.Manly-manly-man

Link to article?

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#34 Menfear
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As I said, September 08', atleast in Europe
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#35 usule
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I'd say the 8800 gt could cover you needs for about a year on high settings... As I understand it will run crysis on high at 45 fps per second, I don't see anygame coming soon who would ask for more... (I expect farcry2 not to be more demanding) and the other big one (UT3), the beta ran maxed out on my 8800 gts 320mb (not crysis though :( )
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#36 milsvaard
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For the price point, you can't go wrong with the 8800 GT.
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#37 IQT786
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im gona wait and see what ati brings in 2 weeks i belive the 3850pro and xt come out with dx10.1 so dont rush and buy the 8800gt but i still think nvidia will win

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lies. the 8800 series does support the 10.1 updates. read up on them

the only difference between dx10 and dx10.1 is that they make some features mandatory (like every dx10.1 spec hardware NEEDS those feature) the 8800 series already has them options.

KiRkHaMet

Have you seen the performance 8800's are getting in DX10 games(CoH, WiC, Crysis) even if it can "support" 10.1 do actualy think DX10.1 games would be anything but extremely unplayable on them?... DX10 is the LIE! better performance my ***.

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#39 Rhamsus
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[QUOTE="KiRkHaMet"]

lies. the 8800 series does support the 10.1 updates. read up on them

the only difference between dx10 and dx10.1 is that they make some features mandatory (like every dx10.1 spec hardware NEEDS those feature) the 8800 series already has them options.

sadikovic

Have you seen the performance 8800's are getting in DX10 games(CoH, WiC, Crysis) even if it can "support" 10.1 do actualy think DX10.1 games would be anything but extremely unplayable on them?... DX10 is the LIE! better performance my ***.

when you post, do you just shove you arm up your rear and see what comes out?

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQxMCwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

read and learn. dont forget to look at the screenshots.

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#40 lonegardian
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Great logical thinking mate!! i agree... dont think G9s will show their face this year... kinda too early