8800GS vs. 9600GT vs. HD3850

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#1 nVidiaGaMer
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Before I begin why would nVidia release a 8800GS if the 9600GT is on the way next week? I wonder which will perform better. If the 8800GS is out for $160-$180 then I wonder how much the 9600GT will cost $130? Please help I'm confused.
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#2 Nolan16
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i agree you are

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#3 Baselerd
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Wait for the 9600gt to come out. Then, see which one performs best in benchmarks. Then buy the best performing card.
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#4 m2twkisfun
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I sure hope the 9600gt carries on the tradition of the 6600, and 7600's, although I'll be getting the 9800GTX :P
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#5 Hiryuu_
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To get rid of flawed cards that couldn't make it as 8800GT or 8800GTS G92 cards and make profit.

The 9600GT is expected to be around $169.

Not quite sure if it'll beat out the 9600GT though.. as the 9600GT does have 32 less SPs, though it does feature a newer architecture/core and a slightly larger memory bit interface.

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#6 sabbath2gamer
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To get rid of flawed cards that couldn't make it as 8800GT or 8800GTS G92 cards and make profit.

The 9600GT is expected to be around $169.

Not quite sure if it'll beat out the 9600GT though.. as the 9600GT does have 32 less SPs, though it does feature a newer architecture/core and a slightly larger memory bit interface.

Hiryuu_

what card do you have now?

if its a good card id say to keep it and wait for ATI's new 4000 series that is coming out in Q2 2008 im sure once ATI gets its hands on a 9 sereis card they will compare it and do what they can to make the 4000 series cards better IMHO

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#7 Hiryuu_
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[QUOTE="Hiryuu_"]

To get rid of flawed cards that couldn't make it as 8800GT or 8800GTS G92 cards and make profit.

The 9600GT is expected to be around $169.

Not quite sure if it'll beat out the 9600GT though.. as the 9600GT does have 32 less SPs, though it does feature a newer architecture/core and a slightly larger memory bit interface.

sabbath2gamer

what card do you have now?

if its a good card id say to keep it and wait for ATI's new 4000 series that is coming out in Q2 2008 im sure once ATI gets its hands on a 9 sereis card they will compare it and do what they can to make the 4000 series cards better IMHO

I've got a 7600GT that recently died on me, so I'm currently using an older rig with a P4 2.4GHz and a 6200.

I'm probably going to grab a 9600GT.

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#8 Lehman
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i think the 8800GT will beat the 9600GT

but wait for the benchmarks

im dying, from waiting

cause i want another 8800GTX for SLI but i want to wait for the 9800GTX to see some benchmarks,
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To get rid of flawed cards that couldn't make it as 8800GT or 8800GTS G92 cards and make profit.

The 9600GT is expected to be around $169.

Not quite sure if it'll beat out the 9600GT though.. as the 9600GT does have 32 less SPs, though it does feature a newer architecture/core and a slightly larger memory bit interface.

Hiryuu_

Your first point is right.

However, the 9600GT is not on a new architecture to G92. The 9600GT is based on G94, which is a derivative of G92, which in turn is a derivative of G80. G94, interestingly enough, features the same memory bus width as G92.

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#10 blackleather223
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I have a amd athlon 3800+ dual 2.0 and a nvidia 8600gt xxx 256mb graphic card. Some day I'm not sure if it will be soon or not buy I'm going to get a different card then what I have and I'm aiming for a card under 200.00.

So if this 9600gt is only 170 or what ever then I may just wait until I see it in action or wait until the 4000 corme out. I'm in no big hurry to run out and get another card I can wait. I have waited this long.

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#11 Hiryuu_
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[QUOTE="Hiryuu_"]

To get rid of flawed cards that couldn't make it as 8800GT or 8800GTS G92 cards and make profit.

The 9600GT is expected to be around $169.

Not quite sure if it'll beat out the 9600GT though.. as the 9600GT does have 32 less SPs, though it does feature a newer architecture/core and a slightly larger memory bit interface.

Wesker776

Your first point is right.

However, the 9600GT is not on a new architecture to G92. The 9600GT is based on G94, which is a derivative of G92, which in turn is a derivative of G80. G94, interestingly enough, features the same memory bus width as G92.

Ah. Never really researched the Geforce 9 series since I wasn't particularly interested. =/

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#12 raufin
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9600gt is already benchmarked...http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1 [...] index.html.. price maybe same to 8800gs but performance is greater than 8800gs.. and its a g94 chipset
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#13 Wesker776
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Go for the 8800 GS.

9600gt is already benchmarked...http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1 [...] index.html.. price maybe same to 8800gs but performance is greater than 8800gs.. and its a g94 chipsetraufin

That review is questionable. Half the SP's, a fraction of the of the ROP's and texture power of G92, yet it performs so closely with the 8800 GT?

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#14 SearchMaster
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9600GT isnt going to be that cheap because im sure that retailers will bump the prices the same way they did to 8800GT.
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#15 raufin
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9600GT isnt going to be that cheap because im sure that retailers will bump the prices the same way they did to 8800GT.SearchMaster

yeah that's what i m foreseeing... but after 2 or 3 weeks price will be go down and will come close to the msrp becoz i heard there's lots of supply in the way ..anyways that price made me scream!! a very good card in ~170 ...thats why i want to see more and more competition..its gr8 for the consumers like us who aren't willing to throw $250 for a card to game... btw i m not ethustic gamer :-) thats why i think like that... dont flame me for my word :-)

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#16 raufin
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Go for the 8800 GS.

[QUOTE="raufin"]9600gt is already benchmarked...http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1 [...] index.html.. price maybe same to 8800gs but performance is greater than 8800gs.. and its a g94 chipsetWesker776

even it is not that powerful as 3870 ofcourse it will be very close .. and going with a 8800gs right now is a big loss.. becoz 8800gs is limited by its 192bit and have less video memory.. 9600gt will surely beat the 8800gs and will have almost the same price..8800gs is a limited version.. it will go out of market soon

That review is questionable. Half the SP's, a fraction of the of the ROP's and texture power of G92, yet it performs so closely with the 8800 GT?

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#17 nVidiaGaMer
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9600GT isnt going to be that cheap because im sure that retailers will bump the prices the same way they did to 8800GT.SearchMaster

I agree we'll have to wait and see multiple reviews in the next week or two.

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#18 kodex1717
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My Best Buy already has some BFG 9600GT OCs, but they cost $230. Interestingly enough, that's the same price as the 8600GT and the 2600XT there. :o
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#19 the1stfandb
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My Best Buy already has some BFG 9600GT OCs, but they cost $230. Interestingly enough, that's the same price as the 8600GT and the 2600XT there. :okodex1717

Bestbuy that name suxs

After looking at the specs it seems pointless unlesss it is very very cheap.

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#20 SearchMaster
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IF its going to be around 160$ or even less, then it would be the best new card for performance/price ratio. But with this price 230$ you can add another 20$ and get apre-oced 8800GT
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#21 nVidiaGaMer
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When the 6600GT launched it was $200 or less, when the 7600GT launched it was $200 or less, hopefully the 9600GT will not continue this trend. I hope it'll be around $150.
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#22 Glordit
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When the 6600GT launched it was $200 or less, when the 7600GT launched it was $200 or less, hopefully the 9600GT will not continue this trend. I hope it'll be around $150.nVidiaGaMer

WOW!? 9 Series huh... still got a 6600, 3 generations behind and still kickin'

IMO if it's beter and cheaper get it otherwise I am looking at the 8800GS & HD3850! aaaarg! hard choice!!

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#23 SearchMaster
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[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]When the 6600GT launched it was $200 or less, when the 7600GT launched it was $200 or less, hopefully the 9600GT will not continue this trend. I hope it'll be around $150.Glordit

WOW!? 9 Series huh... still got a 6600, 3 generations behind and still kickin'

IMO if it's beter and cheaper get it otherwise I am looking at the 8800GS & HD3850! aaaarg! hard choice!!

lol, can you still ''kickin'' with this card with new games such as COD4 or even Bioschock :P
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#24 raufin
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radeon 4000 series will be a gr8 hit if the power specification is right. http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7356.html

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#25 Thinker_145
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Get an 8800GT.The MSI one is going for around $185 after rebate the last time i saw.Seriously what better can you ask for.:)
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#26 silentsky
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i think the 8800GT will beat the 9600GT

but wait for the benchmarks

im dying, from waiting

cause i want another 8800GTX for SLI but i want to wait for the 9800GTX to see some benchmarks, Lehman

I'm on the same boat as you although I'm probably going to end up with a 9800GTX instead of SLI 8800GTX's =]

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#27 Thinker_145
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[QUOTE="Lehman"]i think the 8800GT will beat the 9600GT

but wait for the benchmarks

im dying, from waiting

cause i want another 8800GTX for SLI but i want to wait for the 9800GTX to see some benchmarks, silentsky

I'm on the same boat as you although I'm probably going to end up with a 9800GTX instead of SLI 8800GTX's =]

You should definitely wait.You card still kicks major ass.
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#28 9mmSpliff
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word is the 9600gt is being recalled and the 9800gx2 is being pushed to the end of March. nVidia can only get away with this on the 9600gt, cause of the 8800gs.
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#29 Menfear
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Are you absolutely sure that nvida pushed the realease of gx2 to the end of March?
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#30 raufin
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Get an 8800GT.The MSI one is going for around $185 after rebate the last time i saw.Seriously what better can you ask for.:)Thinker_145

can i ask for a free one plz ? :-)

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#31 silentsky
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[QUOTE="silentsky"]

[QUOTE="Lehman"]i think the 8800GT will beat the 9600GT

but wait for the benchmarks

im dying, from waiting

cause i want another 8800GTX for SLI but i want to wait for the 9800GTX to see some benchmarks, Thinker_145

I'm on the same boat as you although I'm probably going to end up with a 9800GTX instead of SLI 8800GTX's =]

You should definitely wait.You card still kicks major ass.

Yup, I'm waiting on the 9800GTX because I've heard rumors that this beast at LEAST doubles the performance of an 8800GTX. Hopefully that's true, not to be mistaken with the 9800GX2 of course. Until then, I still have plenty of other games to play other than Crysis, (although I find myself always going back to Crysis again and again) to play until they release it and I will enjoy Crysis even more.

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#32 Thinker_145
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[QUOTE="Thinker_145"][QUOTE="silentsky"]

[QUOTE="Lehman"]i think the 8800GT will beat the 9600GT

but wait for the benchmarks

im dying, from waiting

cause i want another 8800GTX for SLI but i want to wait for the 9800GTX to see some benchmarks, silentsky

I'm on the same boat as you although I'm probably going to end up with a 9800GTX instead of SLI 8800GTX's =]

You should definitely wait.You card still kicks major ass.

Yup, I'm waiting on the 9800GTX because I've heard rumors that this beast at LEAST doubles the performance of an 8800GTX. Hopefully that's true, not to be mistaken with the 9800GX2 of course. Until then, I still have plenty of other games to play other than Crysis, (although I find myself always going back to Crysis again and again) to play until they release it and I will enjoy Crysis even more.

Same here.I have a huge back catalog of games but i am going to replay crysis with the XP very high settings.:)
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#33 KRYPTONiZE
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Wait, the 9600GT isn't out yet? I just got home from Best Buy and saw 2 of them on the shelves today...
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#34 wklzip
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Wait, the 9600GT isn't out yet? I just got home from Best Buy and saw 2 of them on the shelves today...KRYPTONiZE

It hasnt officially launched, yet.

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#35 JimmYSkeeZ
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yeah it has. lolololol
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#36 domke13
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yeah it has. lololololJimmYSkeeZ

rofl. This thread reminded me of Thinker. Where did he go anyways?

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#37 wklzip
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yeah it has. lololololJimmYSkeeZ

Why did you bumped this? :P

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#38 musclesforcier
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[QUOTE="JimmYSkeeZ"]yeah it has. lololololdomke13

rofl. This thread reminded me of Thinker. Where did he go anyways?

He was banned, twice I think.

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#39 domke13
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[QUOTE="domke13"]

[QUOTE="JimmYSkeeZ"]yeah it has. lololololmusclesforcier

rofl. This thread reminded me of Thinker. Where did he go anyways?

He was banned, twice I think.

:shock: I didnt know that.

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#40 musclesforcier
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[QUOTE="musclesforcier"][QUOTE="domke13"]

[QUOTE="JimmYSkeeZ"]yeah it has. lololololdomke13

rofl. This thread reminded me of Thinker. Where did he go anyways?

He was banned, twice I think.

:shock: I didnt know that.

Yep, after he was banned he came back as "Stranger_7". Then got banned again.

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[QUOTE="domke13"][QUOTE="musclesforcier"][QUOTE="domke13"]

[QUOTE="JimmYSkeeZ"]yeah it has. lololololmusclesforcier

rofl. This thread reminded me of Thinker. Where did he go anyways?

He was banned, twice I think.

:shock: I didnt know that.

Yep, after he was banned he came back as "Stranger_7". Then got banned again.

He thought he can beat the system.:twisted: