8800GTS (G80 vs G92 series)

I used to run with 2x 8800GTS 640MB in SLI....I'm working on getting 2 of the 512MB cards. I've got one and the second is on the way. Since I haven't really been able to find any comparable benchmarks of these two cards going up against eachother side by side, I figured I'd post my 3DMark06 scores.

My rig:

• AMD 64 X2 5600+ (2.81GHz - stock speed)
• 4GB memory (my OS only takes advantage of 3.25GB)
• Windows XP
• 8800GTS 512MB (1) - will soon have 2 in SLI

My old setup consisted of all the same things except I was running 2x 8800GTS 640MB cards in SLI. Here are my 3DMark06 scores:

• (1) 8800GTS 640MB = 9190 @ stock speeds (513/792)
• (1) 8800GTS 640MB = 9949 @ OC'ed speeds (625/902)
• (2) 8800GTS 640MB in SLI = 10893 @ stock speeds (513/792)
• (1) 8800GTS 512MB = 10467 @ stock speeds (670/972)

From 3DMark06 it seems my assumption was pretty good at thinking a single 8800GTS 512MB card would perform just about as good as 2 8800GTS 640MB cards in SLI.

I haven't bothered with trying to OC my new G92 card yet, but I might look into doing so at a later time. So, there you have it. A bit of a comparison on these 8800GTS cards. Oh, just so you know these scores are taken from the default 3DMark06 settings. I'm sure that the SLI setup would smoke the single 512 card at higher resolution and with AA turned up high. But I'll never know for sure unless I get myself another 8800GTS 640MB card (I used one in the Step-Up program and I've only got one of them left here)....and that'll never happen unless I come into a lot of money.

Well your score of one G80 GTS and SLI arent much different either now are they?

And ofcourse 3dmark runs in 12x10 with no AA.SLI is hardly worth it with those settings.In higher resolutions and using higher AA is when SLI really comes into it's own.

Anyways your assumption of one 512MB GTS being almost as good as SLI 640GTS is pretty wrong.The 512MB GTS is about 20% faster than the 640GTS whereas SLI gives you anything from 40-80% performance increase.I think you should know better anyways.Ofcourse their are times when SLI doesnt work at all and then the 512GTS would beat a 640GTS SLI but that's obvious isnt it.

If i were you i may have looked into upgrading the CPU.

Well your score of one G80 GTS and SLI arent much different either now are they?

And ofcourse 3dmark runs in 12x10 with no AA.SLI is hardly worth it with those settings.In higher resolutions and using higher AA is when SLI really comes into it's own.

Anyways your assumption of one 512MB GTS being almost as good as SLI 640GTS is pretty wrong.The 512MB GTS is about 20% faster than the 640GTS whereas SLI gives you anything from 40-80% performance increase.I think you should know better anyways.Ofcourse their are times when SLI doesnt work at all and then the 512GTS would beat a 640GTS SLI but that's obvious isnt it.

If i were you i may have looked into upgrading the CPU.

Thinker_145

Yup, your CPU is definately giving your cards some bottlenecking.

[QUOTE="Thinker_145"]

Well your score of one G80 GTS and SLI arent much different either now are they?

And ofcourse 3dmark runs in 12x10 with no AA.SLI is hardly worth it with those settings.In higher resolutions and using higher AA is when SLI really comes into it's own.

Anyways your assumption of one 512MB GTS being almost as good as SLI 640GTS is pretty wrong.The 512MB GTS is about 20% faster than the 640GTS whereas SLI gives you anything from 40-80% performance increase.I think you should know better anyways.Ofcourse their are times when SLI doesnt work at all and then the 512GTS would beat a 640GTS SLI but that's obvious isnt it.

If i were you i may have looked into upgrading the CPU.

silentsky

Yup, your CPU is definately giving your cards some bottlenecking.

I agree, I have a 8800GTS 512MB and a E8400 and I score 12700 with nothing overclocked.

Well your score of one G80 GTS and SLI arent much different either now are they?

And ofcourse 3dmark runs in 12x10 with no AA.SLI is hardly worth it with those settings.In higher resolutions and using higher AA is when SLI really comes into it's own.

Anyways your assumption of one 512MB GTS being almost as good as SLI 640GTS is pretty wrong.The 512MB GTS is about 20% faster than the 640GTS whereas SLI gives you anything from 40-80% performance increase.I think you should know better anyways.Ofcourse their are times when SLI doesnt work at all and then the 512GTS would beat a 640GTS SLI but that's obvious isnt it.

If i were you i may have looked into upgrading the CPU.

Thinker_145

I should have made it clear that my assumption was based on just 3DMark06 scores (default settings), not actual gameplay benchmarks.

Also, I know my CPU is a bit slow when compared to Intel....AMD runs slower and I would score much better if I had a halfway decent duo core from Intel. But my MB only supports AMD and I'm not spending any more money on upgrading. I just went from a 64 X2 3800+ to the 5600+ a few months back. That was a big step-up in performance.

Once I can afford 3-4 hundred bucks to spend on a new MB and CPU, I'm going to opt out of AMD (unless they can prove their Phenom can kick ass once they overhaul it) and pick up Intel for faster performance.

You guys should have seen the improvement I had from a single 8800GTS 640 when my CPU went from the 3800+ to the 5600+...almost up 2k on 3DMark06 scoring.

I'll post my 8800GTS 512MB SLI score when my second card comes in...it'll be about 10-12 days from now.

I am getting higher scores with one 8800gt 512MB, I believe you are experiencing a substantial cpu bottleneck my friend. 2x 8800gts 512MB needs to be paired with a high end processor.Baselerd

Forgive me, to those that score higher with their high-end Intel processors - compared to my inferior AMD. I looked up some CPU benchmarks and I've noted that the E8400 is nearly twice as fast as my 5600+. So, yes, I do know that my CPU will bottleneck my 8800GTS card (soon to be cards, because I can).

So, to quench your thirst a little; I popped into my BIOS and OC'ed my my processor from 2.81 to 3.08 and ran 3DMark06 again. Here is my score - 11145.

Now, just to make things clear: I wasn't posting this information here for people to come around and say "I score better" :P. I was just posting this info for others to see what kind of difference there is between the 8800GTS 640 and 512 card because I haven't been able to come across any sites that pairs these two cards together side by side. I know my info is limited to just the 3dmark06, but that's what I have to offer.

I do appreciate those that suggest to upgrade my CPU....however, I won't go to a Phenom unless AMD can improve their game with those processors. So if I do upgrade, it'll probably be to an E8400 or a quad (depends on the prices I can find) and a new MB. But when I have an extra 3-4 hundred I can throw that direction, I'm stuck with what I have.

[QUOTE="Thinker_145"]

Well your score of one G80 GTS and SLI arent much different either now are they?

And ofcourse 3dmark runs in 12x10 with no AA.SLI is hardly worth it with those settings.In higher resolutions and using higher AA is when SLI really comes into it's own.

Anyways your assumption of one 512MB GTS being almost as good as SLI 640GTS is pretty wrong.The 512MB GTS is about 20% faster than the 640GTS whereas SLI gives you anything from 40-80% performance increase.I think you should know better anyways.Ofcourse their are times when SLI doesnt work at all and then the 512GTS would beat a 640GTS SLI but that's obvious isnt it.

If i were you i may have looked into upgrading the CPU.

neatfeatguy

I should have made it clear that my assumption was based on just 3DMark06 scores (default settings), not actual gameplay benchmarks.

Also, I know my CPU is a bit slow when compared to Intel....AMD runs slower and I would score much better if I had a halfway decent duo core from Intel. But my MB only supports AMD and I'm not spending any more money on upgrading. I just went from a 64 X2 3800+ to the 5600+ a few months back. That was a big step-up in performance.

Once I can afford 3-4 hundred bucks to spend on a new MB and CPU, I'm going to opt out of AMD (unless they can prove their Phenom can kick ass once they overhaul it) and pick up Intel for faster performance.

You guys should have seen the improvement I had from a single 8800GTS 640 when my CPU went from the 3800+ to the 5600+...almost up 2k on 3DMark06 scoring.

I'll post my 8800GTS 512MB SLI score when my second card comes in...it'll be about 10-12 days from now.

Sorry but your CPU is already bottlenecking one card so A pair GTS 512mb in SLI will be a very small or non upgrade, if you would get some performance of your card (even 1 of´em) upgrade your CPU first befor add another GTS 512.

[QUOTE="neatfeatguy"][QUOTE="Thinker_145"]

Well your score of one G80 GTS and SLI arent much different either now are they?

And ofcourse 3dmark runs in 12x10 with no AA.SLI is hardly worth it with those settings.In higher resolutions and using higher AA is when SLI really comes into it's own.

Anyways your assumption of one 512MB GTS being almost as good as SLI 640GTS is pretty wrong.The 512MB GTS is about 20% faster than the 640GTS whereas SLI gives you anything from 40-80% performance increase.I think you should know better anyways.Ofcourse their are times when SLI doesnt work at all and then the 512GTS would beat a 640GTS SLI but that's obvious isnt it.

If i were you i may have looked into upgrading the CPU.

swehunt

I should have made it clear that my assumption was based on just 3DMark06 scores (default settings), not actual gameplay benchmarks.

Also, I know my CPU is a bit slow when compared to Intel....AMD runs slower and I would score much better if I had a halfway decent duo core from Intel. But my MB only supports AMD and I'm not spending any more money on upgrading. I just went from a 64 X2 3800+ to the 5600+ a few months back. That was a big step-up in performance.

Once I can afford 3-4 hundred bucks to spend on a new MB and CPU, I'm going to opt out of AMD (unless they can prove their Phenom can kick ass once they overhaul it) and pick up Intel for faster performance.

You guys should have seen the improvement I had from a single 8800GTS 640 when my CPU went from the 3800+ to the 5600+...almost up 2k on 3DMark06 scoring.

I'll post my 8800GTS 512MB SLI score when my second card comes in...it'll be about 10-12 days from now.

Sorry but your CPU is already bottlenecking one card so A pair GTS 512mb in SLI will be a very small or non upgrade, if you would get some performance of your card (even 1 of´em) upgrade your CPU first befor add another GTS 512.

So...what you're trying to say is that it's wrong to have two 8800GTS 512 cards in SLI with a CPU that is bottlenecking and that I absolutely must upgrade my CPU first.

Maybe you couldn't pick up on the fact that I know my CPU is bottlenecking my card right now in my previous post....then you throw in your two cents that has already been said before. You're adding nothing new to this topic. Here's what you need to do.

1. Read everything before you post
2. Make sure you're not saying the exact same thing others that have posted before you have already said
3. Me posting this info was just for comparison reasons, not to have everyone and their cousin post that I need to upgrade my CPU

When I get the money, I'll work on upgrading my CPU and MB....until that time, I'm going to be bottlenecking my graphic card(s).

This is why it sucks trying to be nice and post some useful (albeit it's probably not that useful to most) information for others to go off of. Instead of people looking at it and accepting it for what it is, they all have to throw in their two cents about how to better it or howtheir rig is better because they spent more money on it.....If I cared about your rig, I'd ask about it.

Just one more reason posting on these forums is a pain in the butt....perhaps I'll stop being helpful and just constantly point out flaws and mistakes without offering any new information to help with the problems.

So, everyone forgive me for trying to be helpful here. I will no longer do this. If a mod is watching....please lock this topic.

aAah! 32 bit OS and 4gb RAM :o

Join the intel darkside quad core FTW.

[QUOTE="swehunt"][QUOTE="neatfeatguy"][QUOTE="Thinker_145"]

Well your score of one G80 GTS and SLI arent much different either now are they?

And ofcourse 3dmark runs in 12x10 with no AA.SLI is hardly worth it with those settings.In higher resolutions and using higher AA is when SLI really comes into it's own.

Anyways your assumption of one 512MB GTS being almost as good as SLI 640GTS is pretty wrong.The 512MB GTS is about 20% faster than the 640GTS whereas SLI gives you anything from 40-80% performance increase.I think you should know better anyways.Ofcourse their are times when SLI doesnt work at all and then the 512GTS would beat a 640GTS SLI but that's obvious isnt it.

If i were you i may have looked into upgrading the CPU.

neatfeatguy

I should have made it clear that my assumption was based on just 3DMark06 scores (default settings), not actual gameplay benchmarks.

Also, I know my CPU is a bit slow when compared to Intel....AMD runs slower and I would score much better if I had a halfway decent duo core from Intel. But my MB only supports AMD and I'm not spending any more money on upgrading. I just went from a 64 X2 3800+ to the 5600+ a few months back. That was a big step-up in performance.

Once I can afford 3-4 hundred bucks to spend on a new MB and CPU, I'm going to opt out of AMD (unless they can prove their Phenom can kick ass once they overhaul it) and pick up Intel for faster performance.

You guys should have seen the improvement I had from a single 8800GTS 640 when my CPU went from the 3800+ to the 5600+...almost up 2k on 3DMark06 scoring.

I'll post my 8800GTS 512MB SLI score when my second card comes in...it'll be about 10-12 days from now.

Sorry but your CPU is already bottlenecking one card so A pair GTS 512mb in SLI will be a very small or non upgrade, if you would get some performance of your card (even 1 of´em) upgrade your CPU first befor add another GTS 512.

So...what you're trying to say is that it's wrong to have two 8800GTS 512 cards in SLI with a CPU that is bottlenecking and that I absolutely must upgrade my CPU first.

Maybe you couldn't pick up on the fact that I know my CPU is bottlenecking my card right now in my previous post....then you throw in your two cents that has already been said before. You're adding nothing new to this topic. Here's what you need to do.

1. Read everything before you post
2. Make sure you're not saying the exact same thing others that have posted before you have already said
3. Me posting this info was just for comparison reasons, not to have everyone and their cousin post that I need to upgrade my CPU

When I get the money, I'll work on upgrading my CPU and MB....until that time, I'm going to be bottlenecking my graphic card(s).

This is why it sucks trying to be nice and post some useful (albeit it's probably not that useful to most) information for others to go off of. Instead of people looking at it and accepting it for what it is, they all have to throw in their two cents about how to better it or howtheir rig is better because they spent more money on it.....If I cared about your rig, I'd ask about it.

Just one more reason posting on these forums is a pain in the butt....perhaps I'll stop being helpful and just constantly point out flaws and mistakes without offering any new information to help with the problems.

So, everyone forgive me for trying to be helpful here. I will no longer do this. If a mod is watching....please lock this topic.

An E8400 with 640GTS SLI will be a better gaming PC than 512GTS SLI with your current CPU.

You talk that you dont have money why on earth would you bother to get a new GTS then instead of getting a new CPU. It's not like 640GTS SLI sucks or something:? anyways your money do what you like.

[QUOTE="neatfeatguy"][QUOTE="swehunt"][QUOTE="neatfeatguy"][QUOTE="Thinker_145"]

Well your score of one G80 GTS and SLI arent much different either now are they?

And ofcourse 3dmark runs in 12x10 with no AA.SLI is hardly worth it with those settings.In higher resolutions and using higher AA is when SLI really comes into it's own.

Anyways your assumption of one 512MB GTS being almost as good as SLI 640GTS is pretty wrong.The 512MB GTS is about 20% faster than the 640GTS whereas SLI gives you anything from 40-80% performance increase.I think you should know better anyways.Ofcourse their are times when SLI doesnt work at all and then the 512GTS would beat a 640GTS SLI but that's obvious isnt it.

If i were you i may have looked into upgrading the CPU.

Thinker_145

I should have made it clear that my assumption was based on just 3DMark06 scores (default settings), not actual gameplay benchmarks.

Also, I know my CPU is a bit slow when compared to Intel....AMD runs slower and I would score much better if I had a halfway decent duo core from Intel. But my MB only supports AMD and I'm not spending any more money on upgrading. I just went from a 64 X2 3800+ to the 5600+ a few months back. That was a big step-up in performance.

Once I can afford 3-4 hundred bucks to spend on a new MB and CPU, I'm going to opt out of AMD (unless they can prove their Phenom can kick ass once they overhaul it) and pick up Intel for faster performance.

You guys should have seen the improvement I had from a single 8800GTS 640 when my CPU went from the 3800+ to the 5600+...almost up 2k on 3DMark06 scoring.

I'll post my 8800GTS 512MB SLI score when my second card comes in...it'll be about 10-12 days from now.

Sorry but your CPU is already bottlenecking one card so A pair GTS 512mb in SLI will be a very small or non upgrade, if you would get some performance of your card (even 1 of´em) upgrade your CPU first befor add another GTS 512.

So...what you're trying to say is that it's wrong to have two 8800GTS 512 cards in SLI with a CPU that is bottlenecking and that I absolutely must upgrade my CPU first.

Maybe you couldn't pick up on the fact that I know my CPU is bottlenecking my card right now in my previous post....then you throw in your two cents that has already been said before. You're adding nothing new to this topic. Here's what you need to do.

1. Read everything before you post
2. Make sure you're not saying the exact same thing others that have posted before you have already said
3. Me posting this info was just for comparison reasons, not to have everyone and their cousin post that I need to upgrade my CPU

When I get the money, I'll work on upgrading my CPU and MB....until that time, I'm going to be bottlenecking my graphic card(s).

This is why it sucks trying to be nice and post some useful (albeit it's probably not that useful to most) information for others to go off of. Instead of people looking at it and accepting it for what it is, they all have to throw in their two cents about how to better it or howtheir rig is better because they spent more money on it.....If I cared about your rig, I'd ask about it.

Just one more reason posting on these forums is a pain in the butt....perhaps I'll stop being helpful and just constantly point out flaws and mistakes without offering any new information to help with the problems.

So, everyone forgive me for trying to be helpful here. I will no longer do this. If a mod is watching....please lock this topic.

An E8400 with 640GTS SLI will be a better gaming PC than 512GTS SLI with your current CPU.

You talk that you dont have money why on earth would you bother to get a new GTS then instead of getting a new CPU. It's not like 640GTS SLI sucks or something:? anyways your money do what you like.

Once again....

I didn't start this topic asking people if my CPU is bottlenecking my graphic cards, did I? I came on to offer some info, nothing more.

Also, it's non of your concern about my financial situation when it comes to getting my hands on a new MB and CPU. Just because I upgraded my video cards doesn't mean I had to spend tons of money on them. So, sometime down the road when I finally do have the money for a new MB and CPU, I don't have to worry about upgrading my video cards to get good/great performance....I realize they're bottlenecked with my current system. As I said before, I didn't come here asking for people's opinions on my rig or rig comparisons, I was just offering a little info about the G80 and G92 8800GTS cards, nothing more.

I appreciate that some of you think I should get a new CPU and all, but you don't know my current situation - and then basically implying that I'm dumb for getting two nice GPUs and not upgrading my CPU/MB. Perhaps I'm mis-reading, but that's what I take from it.

So, once again, I appologize for offering some basic info. I won't do it again...

[QUOTE="Thinker_145"][QUOTE="neatfeatguy"][QUOTE="swehunt"][QUOTE="neatfeatguy"][QUOTE="Thinker_145"]

Well your score of one G80 GTS and SLI arent much different either now are they?

And ofcourse 3dmark runs in 12x10 with no AA.SLI is hardly worth it with those settings.In higher resolutions and using higher AA is when SLI really comes into it's own.

Anyways your assumption of one 512MB GTS being almost as good as SLI 640GTS is pretty wrong.The 512MB GTS is about 20% faster than the 640GTS whereas SLI gives you anything from 40-80% performance increase.I think you should know better anyways.Ofcourse their are times when SLI doesnt work at all and then the 512GTS would beat a 640GTS SLI but that's obvious isnt it.

If i were you i may have looked into upgrading the CPU.

neatfeatguy

I should have made it clear that my assumption was based on just 3DMark06 scores (default settings), not actual gameplay benchmarks.

Also, I know my CPU is a bit slow when compared to Intel....AMD runs slower and I would score much better if I had a halfway decent duo core from Intel. But my MB only supports AMD and I'm not spending any more money on upgrading. I just went from a 64 X2 3800+ to the 5600+ a few months back. That was a big step-up in performance.

Once I can afford 3-4 hundred bucks to spend on a new MB and CPU, I'm going to opt out of AMD (unless they can prove their Phenom can kick ass once they overhaul it) and pick up Intel for faster performance.

You guys should have seen the improvement I had from a single 8800GTS 640 when my CPU went from the 3800+ to the 5600+...almost up 2k on 3DMark06 scoring.

I'll post my 8800GTS 512MB SLI score when my second card comes in...it'll be about 10-12 days from now.

Sorry but your CPU is already bottlenecking one card so A pair GTS 512mb in SLI will be a very small or non upgrade, if you would get some performance of your card (even 1 of´em) upgrade your CPU first befor add another GTS 512.

So...what you're trying to say is that it's wrong to have two 8800GTS 512 cards in SLI with a CPU that is bottlenecking and that I absolutely must upgrade my CPU first.

Maybe you couldn't pick up on the fact that I know my CPU is bottlenecking my card right now in my previous post....then you throw in your two cents that has already been said before. You're adding nothing new to this topic. Here's what you need to do.

1. Read everything before you post
2. Make sure you're not saying the exact same thing others that have posted before you have already said
3. Me posting this info was just for comparison reasons, not to have everyone and their cousin post that I need to upgrade my CPU

When I get the money, I'll work on upgrading my CPU and MB....until that time, I'm going to be bottlenecking my graphic card(s).

This is why it sucks trying to be nice and post some useful (albeit it's probably not that useful to most) information for others to go off of. Instead of people looking at it and accepting it for what it is, they all have to throw in their two cents about how to better it or howtheir rig is better because they spent more money on it.....If I cared about your rig, I'd ask about it.

Just one more reason posting on these forums is a pain in the butt....perhaps I'll stop being helpful and just constantly point out flaws and mistakes without offering any new information to help with the problems.

So, everyone forgive me for trying to be helpful here. I will no longer do this. If a mod is watching....please lock this topic.

An E8400 with 640GTS SLI will be a better gaming PC than 512GTS SLI with your current CPU.

You talk that you dont have money why on earth would you bother to get a new GTS then instead of getting a new CPU. It's not like 640GTS SLI sucks or something:? anyways your money do what you like.

Once again....

I didn't start this topic asking people if my CPU is bottlenecking my graphic cards, did I? I came on to offer some info, nothing more.

Also, it's non of your concern about my financial situation when it comes to getting my hands on a new MB and CPU. Just because I upgraded my video cards doesn't mean I had to spend tons of money on them. So, sometime down the road when I finally do have the money for a new MB and CPU, I don't have to worry about upgrading my video cards to get good/great performance....I realize they're bottlenecked with my current system. As I said before, I didn't come here asking for people's opinions on my rig or rig comparisons, I was just offering a little info about the G80 and G92 8800GTS cards, nothing more.

I appreciate that some of you think I should get a new CPU and all, but you don't know my current situation - and then basically implying that I'm dumb for getting two nice GPUs and not upgrading my CPU/MB. Perhaps I'm mis-reading, but that's what I take from it.

So, once again, I appologize for offering some basic info. I won't do it again...

If, you´re ofended by people giving you good advice why post in first place?

And your comparison don´t realy say as much as there no performance jump from each card as their not the weak link in your rig.

As sad before, you act like a baby, why jump people?, you need to get some angermanegment? (referring to your "baby" reply of my post.)

If your personal finance is as good.. OK, Good then we'll see a real comparison when those card can perform at their best, not at their worst.

Once again....

I didn't start this topic asking people if my CPU is bottlenecking my graphic cards, did I? I came on to offer some info, nothing more.

Also, it's non of your concern about my financial situation when it comes to getting my hands on a new MB and CPU. Just because I upgraded my video cards doesn't mean I had to spend tons of money on them. So, sometime down the road when I finally do have the money for a new MB and CPU, I don't have to worry about upgrading my video cards to get good/great performance....I realize they're bottlenecked with my current system. As I said before, I didn't come here asking for people's opinions on my rig or rig comparisons, I was just offering a little info about the G80 and G92 8800GTS cards, nothing more.

I appreciate that some of you think I should get a new CPU and all, but you don't know my current situation - and then basically implying that I'm dumb for getting two nice GPUs and not upgrading my CPU/MB. Perhaps I'm mis-reading, but that's what I take from it.

So, once again, I appologize for offering some basic info. I won't do it again...

neatfeatguy

Why are you getting so offended. If you post on these forums, naturally, people are going to give you advice.

And yes, it is very naive to upgrade to SLI 8800GTS 512MB, because I can guarantee you that you will experience almost 0% performance increase. Your cpu is bottlenecking your single 8800GTS 512 MB, it was bottlenecking your 8800GTS 640MB SLI, and will definitely bottleneck your 8800GTS 512MB SLI. You will probably be getting the same framerates with all three of those setups.

You should return the 8800gts 512MB that you just ordered. That's enough to upgrade to an e8400. ($220 + a ~$100 mobo). Stop feeling sorry for yourself

Oh yeah, and the only information you offered about the g80 and g92 8800GTS cards is that they are equally bottlenecked by an AMD X2 5600+ . Cheers.