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How much better is the 8800M GTX than the 8600M GT? Are the two cards similar quality graphics or how much better is the 8800. Does anyone have any comparison shots? That would be great

thanks for advice

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http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html

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#3 darkmagician06

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way better...

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If that the card iam thinking of it is capable of crysis on high settings!

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An 8800M is much better than any 8700M or 8600M. The only object to that is obviously, price. Notebook manufacturers/resellers will sodomize your ass coming and going before even letting you see a notebook equipped with one, much less let you buy one. That's been the case with basically any notebook with any kind of high-end graphics silicon for the past twenty years now.

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An 8800M is much better than any 8700M or 8600M. The only object to that is obviously, price. Notebook manufacturers/resellers will sodomize your ass coming and going before even letting you see a notebook equipped with one, much less let you buy one. That's been the case with basically any notebook with any kind of high-end graphics silicon for the past twenty years now.codezer0

LOL, this is signature material man :D

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If you want to use it, you have my permission. 8)

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yeah well if the difference between the two is so great, maybe its worth it for the extra couple hundred bucks. only a few laptops offer the 8800M GTX though..and the only one reasonably lightweight enough is the alienware m15x..anyone know anything about that system?

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#9 mastershake575

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yeah well if the difference between the two is so great, maybe its worth it for the extra couple hundred bucks. only a few laptops offer the 8800M GTX though..and the only one reasonably lightweight enough is the alienware m15x..anyone know anything about that system?Koralan

yes its really worth the extra money espically since almost all laptops don't allow you to upgrade the gpu and as for the alienware im not to sure ill look into it

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#10 wolfdogelite

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my friend had that alienware laptop, spent $2500+ on it, had it for like 2 months and couldnt stand not being able to upgrade anything, and returned it to make a custom dektop, long story short= good laptop, for the money, incredible desktop!

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#11 slickchris7777

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An 8800M is much better than any 8700M or 8600M. The only object to that is obviously, price. Notebook manufacturers/resellers will sodomize your ass coming and going before even letting you see a notebook equipped with one, much less let you buy one. That's been the case with basically any notebook with any kind of high-end graphics silicon for the past twenty years now.codezer0

That's not entirely true.

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i can get a Dell 1730 with Dual 8800M GTX for a little over AU$3000 think thats round 2800 US dollars
is this good? it has also
T9300
2x 160 gig HDD 7200rpm
2 gig RAM
8X max DVD+/-RW

is this good??
im gonna take to school and stuff, but i also have a gamin computer already and this is probably better than my PC cause mine has single GTX but this has 2

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#13 wolfdogelite

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obviously for a laptop that is a very good setup, as far as a good deal though.. not sure, i would probably go with alienware here, at least for bragging rights, if your going to spend that much on it anyway

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#14 FLAMEINSANE

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i can get a Dell 1730 with Dual 8800M GTX for a little over AU$3000 think thats round 2800 US dollars
is this good? it has also
T9300
2x 160 gig HDD 7200rpm
2 gig RAM
8X max DVD+/-RW

is this good??
im gonna take to school and stuff, but i also have a gamin computer already and this is probably better than my PC cause mine has single GTX but this has 2
Lehman

If you're just taking it to school and stuff, I wouldn't spend too much. Pick up a laptop with even one GTX and spend the rest on upgrading your desktop.

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yeah thats what i wanted to do but Dell Australia has either DUAL 8700 or DUAL 8800 GTX
for some reason they dont have single versions

and about alienware, i could get one but it would be worse (inside) than the Dell for the same price

i will try to configurre a Alienware laptop later

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the alien ware is more expensive but it is 15" and only 7.1 lbs whereas the dell xps 1730 which is similarly priced with the same gpu is 17" and around 12-15 lbs. I'm trying to opt for as light as possible as I will have to carry it around a decent amount, so even though the alienware is expensive I think it may be worth it. what do you think?

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SIGED!:D:D

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That's not entirely true.
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Just TRY and find a notebook with a high-end GPU that isn't selling for $2000+. Or think about trying to find one even a year ago. You couldn't. You always had to settle for some $4000+ cement block of a notebook and then pay a $500+ upgrade fee to even have said chip in it. Even now, it's next to impossible to find any real selection of notebooks employing SLi with even mid-grade GPU's. and those that do, charge insane premiums for it.

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#19 slickchris7777

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[QUOTE="slickchris7777"]
That's not entirely true.
codezer0

Just TRY and find a notebook with a high-end GPU that isn't selling for $2000+. Or think about trying to find one even a year ago. You couldn't. You always had to settle for some $4000+ cement block of a notebook and then pay a $500+ upgrade fee to even have said chip in it. Even now, it's next to impossible to find any real selection of notebooks employing SLi with even mid-grade GPU's. and those that do, charge insane premiums for it.

Gateway P-6831FX

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Gateway P-6831FX
slickchris7777

And if you want a warranty worth a damn, it still puts you over $2k with sales tax, unless you're lucky enough to live in a state that does not charge such a tax. Gateway's website also does not even acknowledge the P6831's existence. And you're going to be around $2000 anyway after upgrading the warranty and paying for shipping (and applicable tax). Last time I had checked for that 6831FX @ Best Buy, they had it at $1249 for all of one week. And the week right after, they raised the price to $1699 + $399 for a two-year service plan. :evil: :cry:

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#21 slickchris7777

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[QUOTE="slickchris7777"]
Gateway P-6831FX
codezer0

And if you want a warranty worth a damn, it still puts you over $2k with sales tax, unless you're lucky enough to live in a state that does not charge such a tax. Gateway's website also does not even acknowledge the P6831's existence. And you're going to be around $2000 anyway after upgrading the warranty and paying for shipping (and applicable tax). Last time I had checked for that 6831FX @ Best Buy, they had it at $1249 for all of one week. And the week right after, they raised the price to $1699 + $399 for a two-year service plan. :evil: :cry:

You don't need an extended warranty, and you don't have to pay shipping if you just walk into the store...

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#22 wolfdogelite

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[QUOTE="codezer0"][QUOTE="slickchris7777"]
Gateway P-6831FX
slickchris7777

And if you want a warranty worth a damn, it still puts you over $2k with sales tax, unless you're lucky enough to live in a state that does not charge such a tax. Gateway's website also does not even acknowledge the P6831's existence. And you're going to be around $2000 anyway after upgrading the warranty and paying for shipping (and applicable tax). Last time I had checked for that 6831FX @ Best Buy, they had it at $1249 for all of one week. And the week right after, they raised the price to $1699 + $399 for a two-year service plan. :evil: :cry:

You don't need an extended warranty, and you don't have to pay shipping if you just walk into the store...

its still a gateway, not that they are terrible, but they arent exactly creme of the crop

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You don't need an extended warranty, and you don't have to pay shipping if you just walk into the store...
slickchris7777

You ever had a Gateway computer? You will want that warranty when their **** falls apart on you. Not much good going into a store when they repeatedly never have any, and charge way more in the store than they do on their web page for whatever reason.

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[QUOTE="slickchris7777"]
That's not entirely true.
codezer0

Just TRY and find a notebook with a high-end GPU that isn't selling for $2000+. Or think about trying to find one even a year ago. You couldn't. You always had to settle for some $4000+ cement block of a notebook and then pay a $500+ upgrade fee to even have said chip in it. Even now, it's next to impossible to find any real selection of notebooks employing SLi with even mid-grade GPU's. and those that do, charge insane premiums for it.

Gateway P-6831FX at Best Buy

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8651167&type=product&id=1195599780039

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#25 PhantasmCipherX

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http://www.vigorgaming.com/product/config_atlantiscl.html

2gbs of ram, core 2 duo or quad support (you pick), 8800GTXM 512mb, free web cam, etc etc. Even has 8800m SLI if you want. It's a beastly system....

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#26 mastershake575

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[QUOTE="codezer0"][QUOTE="slickchris7777"]
That's not entirely true.
afmsquid

Just TRY and find a notebook with a high-end GPU that isn't selling for $2000+. Or think about trying to find one even a year ago. You couldn't. You always had to settle for some $4000+ cement block of a notebook and then pay a $500+ upgrade fee to even have said chip in it. Even now, it's next to impossible to find any real selection of notebooks employing SLi with even mid-grade GPU's. and those that do, charge insane premiums for it.

Gateway P-6831FX at Best Buy

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8651167&type=product&id=1195599780039

its on backorder you can't buy it not to mention the price will raise highly when it does get back in stock

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Gateway P-6831FX at Best Buy
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8651167&type=product&id=1195599780039
afmsquid

I think you all missed the point I was trying to make. Look beyond the Gateway P-6831FX. Hell, look at Gateway's own lineup online. Before you can even click "buy now", their baseline P-series FX model will end up greater than $2k by the time you add the warranty, shipping (and applicable tax). Laptop manufacturers have a pathological hatred for high-end graphics. Sony will positively refuse to sell a notebook with anything higher than an 8400M GS GPU in it (if the recent trip to the Sony Style store I had is to be believed). lenovo will absolutely NOT make a notebook with a GPU faster than an 8600M, assuming they even make one at all. Dell won't even sell a notebook with an 8800 series except for their top-end (and ridiculously overpriced) XPS 1730 model. Yes, it's got a PhysX PPU which is nice, but there's no reason I should have to spend $3000+ just to get even ONE 8800 GPU. Worst still, ATi hasn't made any high-end mobile silicon in ages now. Yes, they claim to have a mobility X1800, but even when that was brand new, it was effectively a paper launch, with only the XPS 2010 actually receiving it in any real quantity. Everyone else was left SOL. They've certainly not even tried to make even an HD 3850 mobility, or seem all that concerned to try and win back some of the mobile GPU market share they previously dominated in. As mastershake also stated, Best Buy fluctuates the prices a LOT. it started out at $1350, then $1250... then went up to $1700 (and raised the price of their service plan). Now it's showing a price of $1350, but being on backorder. And I agree, it will most certainly jack up as soon as they get any in stock again. And even more for those stores that actually have some on-hand. I consider the Gateway P-Series FX to be a fluke... because nearly every other notebook out there with a high-end piece of silicon (in this case, the 8800M series) retails for much, much more. And unless they can get a ton of people to buy into it, notebook manufacturers won't be adjusting their offerings to even come close to matching, on specs or on price. In a way, I was hoping for Vista to be the kick in the pants that notebook manufacturers would need to get them off their high horse and make some notebooks with GPU's worth using. But even with the needs for Aero, they continue to drag their feet, much to my frustration.

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[QUOTE="afmsquid"]
Gateway P-6831FX at Best Buy
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8651167&type=product&id=1195599780039
codezer0

I think you all missed the point I was trying to make. Look beyond the Gateway P-6831FX. Hell, look at Gateway's own lineup online. Before you can even click "buy now", their baseline P-series FX model will end up greater than $2k by the time you add the warranty, shipping (and applicable tax). Laptop manufacturers have a pathological hatred for high-end graphics. Sony will positively refuse to sell a notebook with anything higher than an 8400M GS GPU in it (if the recent trip to the Sony Style store I had is to be believed). lenovo will absolutely NOT make a notebook with a GPU faster than an 8600M, assuming they even make one at all. Dell won't even sell a notebook with an 8800 series except for their top-end (and ridiculously overpriced) XPS 1730 model. Yes, it's got a PhysX PPU which is nice, but there's no reason I should have to spend $3000+ just to get even ONE 8800 GPU. Worst still, ATi hasn't made any high-end mobile silicon in ages now. Yes, they claim to have a mobility X1800, but even when that was brand new, it was effectively a paper launch, with only the XPS 2010 actually receiving it in any real quantity. Everyone else was left SOL. They've certainly not even tried to make even an HD 3850 mobility, or seem all that concerned to try and win back some of the mobile GPU market share they previously dominated in. As mastershake also stated, Best Buy fluctuates the prices a LOT. it started out at $1350, then $1250... then went up to $1700 (and raised the price of their service plan). Now it's showing a price of $1350, but being on backorder. And I agree, it will most certainly jack up as soon as they get any in stock again. And even more for those stores that actually have some on-hand. I consider the Gateway P-Series FX to be a fluke... because nearly every other notebook out there with a high-end piece of silicon (in this case, the 8800M series) retails for much, much more. And unless they can get a ton of people to buy into it, notebook manufacturers won't be adjusting their offerings to even come close to matching, on specs or on price. In a way, I was hoping for Vista to be the kick in the pants that notebook manufacturers would need to get them off their high horse and make some notebooks with GPU's worth using. But even with the needs for Aero, they continue to drag their feet, much to my frustration.

Bottom Line is: the Gateway P6831FX is an awesome deal. Pick one up if you can.

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The 8800M is a high end graphics card, 8600M is low-mid range.

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#30 mastershake575

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[QUOTE="codezer0"][QUOTE="afmsquid"]
Gateway P-6831FX at Best Buy
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8651167&type=product&id=1195599780039
afmsquid

I think you all missed the point I was trying to make. Look beyond the Gateway P-6831FX. Hell, look at Gateway's own lineup online. Before you can even click "buy now", their baseline P-series FX model will end up greater than $2k by the time you add the warranty, shipping (and applicable tax). Laptop manufacturers have a pathological hatred for high-end graphics. Sony will positively refuse to sell a notebook with anything higher than an 8400M GS GPU in it (if the recent trip to the Sony Style store I had is to be believed). lenovo will absolutely NOT make a notebook with a GPU faster than an 8600M, assuming they even make one at all. Dell won't even sell a notebook with an 8800 series except for their top-end (and ridiculously overpriced) XPS 1730 model. Yes, it's got a PhysX PPU which is nice, but there's no reason I should have to spend $3000+ just to get even ONE 8800 GPU. Worst still, ATi hasn't made any high-end mobile silicon in ages now. Yes, they claim to have a mobility X1800, but even when that was brand new, it was effectively a paper launch, with only the XPS 2010 actually receiving it in any real quantity. Everyone else was left SOL. They've certainly not even tried to make even an HD 3850 mobility, or seem all that concerned to try and win back some of the mobile GPU market share they previously dominated in. As mastershake also stated, Best Buy fluctuates the prices a LOT. it started out at $1350, then $1250... then went up to $1700 (and raised the price of their service plan). Now it's showing a price of $1350, but being on backorder. And I agree, it will most certainly jack up as soon as they get any in stock again. And even more for those stores that actually have some on-hand. I consider the Gateway P-Series FX to be a fluke... because nearly every other notebook out there with a high-end piece of silicon (in this case, the 8800M series) retails for much, much more. And unless they can get a ton of people to buy into it, notebook manufacturers won't be adjusting their offerings to even come close to matching, on specs or on price. In a way, I was hoping for Vista to be the kick in the pants that notebook manufacturers would need to get them off their high horse and make some notebooks with GPU's worth using. But even with the needs for Aero, they continue to drag their feet, much to my frustration.

Bottom Line is: the Gateway P6831FX is an awesome deal. Pick one up if you can.

thats the problem IF you can

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I'd give it a couple weeks, and I think BB is sold out because there is going to be a new FX to replace the 6831, probably one with a better CPU.

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