9800 GTX+ vs HD 4850

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#1 Penguin_dragon
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Well my birthday is coming up and I've decided on getting a new graphics card. My price range however leaves me right in the middle of an epic war. The 9800 GTX+ and the HD4850 are basically neck-in-neck in the benchmarks, so I thought to myself I would determine this by getting which ever was the cheapest.

These where my results

HD4850

9800 GTX+

That's right, another tie. Even the games included are a tie since I've wanted them both for a while.

To sum it up, I have until Wednesday to choose a card, and since I see no difference, I want you to help me. Any input or experiences with any of these cards will be GREATLY appreciated.

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#2 AzNs3nSaT1On
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until more games come out to incorperate physX engine, i'm sticking with ati.
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#3 GodLovesDead
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My 9800GTX (non +) outperforms my HD4850 by a long shot. NVIDIA is always the safer bet.
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#4 teh_VU
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I went with a 4850 and I've never looked back. Not to say that hte 9800 GTX+ is bad, I think either of them would be great but I went with the 4850.
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#5 kaitanuvax
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World at War is terrible. Played through the first few levels and was neither as engaged nor impressed as when I played COD4. All Treyarch did was incorporate COD4 graphics with COD2 gameplay.

That being said, I chose the HD 4850 for my system because:

1. It requires one PCI 6-pin, not two.

2. Less expensive, just as good.

3. Takes up much less space.

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#6 darx55
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If you're playing crysis,go nvidia.If not,just get the 4850.
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#7 organic_machine
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World at War is terrible. Played through the first few levels and was neither as engaged nor impressed as when I played COD4. All Treyarch did was incorporate COD4 graphics with COD2 gameplay.

That being said, I chose the HD 4850 for my system because:

1. It requires one PCI 6-pin, not two.

2. Less expensive, just as good.

3. Takes up much less space.

kaitanuvax

I use THIS card. It has all of these qualities...

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#8 marcthpro
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if ur mobo crossfire defiantly 4850
else as far i remember from old review of november the 9800GTX + is Equal to 4870 512 meg so it possible 9800GTX + give you more power
but 4850 is less expensive :P
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#9 Shadowhawk000
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4850 and that will be my new card as well *Hi-Five* :P
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My 9800GTX (non +) outperforms my HD4850 by a long shot. NVIDIA is always the safer bet.GodLovesDead
no, it doesnt
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#11 Mr_NoName111
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the 9800GTX+ and 4850 are about equal in performance. I would get the 9800 just because of the dual slot cooler verses the 4850's single slot. Also, from owning both Nvidia and AMD products, I have to say Nvidia's drivers/control panel is a bit better than AMD's
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#12 GTR2addict
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[QUOTE="Mr_NoName111"]the 9800GTX+ and 4850 are about equal in performance. I would get the 9800 just because of the dual slot cooler verses the 4850's single slot. Also, from owning both Nvidia and AMD products, I have to say Nvidia's drivers/control panel is a bit better than AMD's

the 4850 edges out most of the times, not all, you can get special dual slot cooling for the 4850, and catalyst 8.9 killed the driver argument
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#13 Auraknight1
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I'm going to have to say get the 4850 because it has almost the same performance( little better I think actually) and it's cheaper
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With the HD4850, does the control panel let you set things like AA and AF for specific games like how nVidia did ( or still does, i dont know). Im aware im using an ATI card now but its quite old and im wondering whether they included the option with newer cards. My birthday is also coming up next month exacily, and im in the exact situation as I dont know whether to do with the 9800GTX+ or HD4850 since they are both the same price. However, if i have more money then im origionally expecting, then i may look at the HD4870 or even GTX260.
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#15 Sordidus
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My vote goes for the 9800GTX+:twisted:
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#16 rebirthofman
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My vote goes for the 9800GTX+:twisted:Sordidus
Mine too.
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#17 kemar7856
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9800gtx is a bit better but the 4850 is cheaper
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#18 Joker1232003
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I would say the 4850, only because ive done loads of research into it becaus eim also buying one Check out the poll too, it favours the 4850 The 4850 is an amazing value card, will max all the latest games at a variation of resolutions. Its down to what games you wanna play really Also the Rumors of the 4850 overheating are blown out of proportion, the latest driver helps calm down the heat wave the 4850 used to emit Also, buy a 4850 from...Saphire I think...they have implemented another cooler onto it
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#19 will952
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Palit non-sonic version is also very cool (compared to other 4850's) but I believe it is dual slot. Which brings me to ask- does the size of the graphics card (dual or single slot) affect its chances of 'crossfiring'?

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#20 Joker1232003
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I guess not. Well I know it will fit on my mobo (two 4850's) Whats that about the Palit version? Its got a dual cooler?
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#21 Penguin_dragon
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I guess its the 4850 for me then :). Thanks for your inputs everyone.
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#22 redneckdouglas
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Both of those videocard looks overpriced compared to the HIS 4870, priced @ $164.99 (not including rebate).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161268

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#23 marcthpro
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haha nice price FIND REDNECKdouglas ! i was about to search for some today to see if they where any price drop for 4870 !
That hell a nice price :D

HIS Hightech H487FN512P Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
Original Price: $189.99
You Save: $25.00$164.99($144.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate pdf )Free Shipping*

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#24 Mr_NoName111
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holy crap... a 4870 for $145.. You lucky americans!
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#25 kaitanuvax
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With ATI cards priced so low, I still wonder why people buy Nvidia, especially in times like these.
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#26 marcthpro
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yeah penguin_dragon you should buy 4870 512meg at 144$ it so dirt Cheap it so nice ! :D
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#27 Penguin_dragon
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Boy am I glad I waited little longer! I would have never caught that! Thans redneck, you made this decision a hell of a lot easier.
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#28 marcthpro
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have fun gaming :D
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#29 DemetriP790
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wtf i thought the 4870 was about the price of 260 on december it was like 260 - 300 and why is nvidia 260 still like 260-300 and why is 9800 + cost more than 4870 holy crap why whould anyone buy nvidia cards these days
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#30 DemetriP790
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oh yeah looking at all these non stock coolers of 4870 many of them have heat pipes does more heat pipes = better cooling or is it just like fans when u add too much it actually decrease your performance
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#31 Shadowhawk000
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I would get the 4870 but its too expensive for me.. and im not sure if it would fit in my case..
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#32 Sordidus
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I would get the 4870 but its too expensive for me.. and im not sure if it would fit in my case.. Shadowhawk000

If I'm not mistaken, the HD4870 it's shorter than the 9800GTX+.

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#33 Chris_53
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For those in the UK, look at this HD4870. http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-090-PC&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=939 A great price, but i doult it ll still be that price come next month when its my birthday.
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#34 darkmagician06
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161236 4870 same price as 4850... get the 4870
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#35 redneckdouglas
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Size comparison:

4850 9"

4870 9.5"

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#36 Shadowhawk000
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[QUOTE="Shadowhawk000"]I would get the 4870 but its too expensive for me.. and im not sure if it would fit in my case.. Sordidus

If I'm not mistaken, the HD4870 it's shorter than the 9800GTX+.

It is? How long the biggest card I can take is a 9.6" card also the 4870 is 100 dollers more.. so how much of a performance difference is the 4870 to the 4850..?
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#37 Auraknight1
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[QUOTE="Sordidus"]

[QUOTE="Shadowhawk000"]I would get the 4870 but its too expensive for me.. and im not sure if it would fit in my case.. Shadowhawk000

If I'm not mistaken, the HD4870 it's shorter than the 9800GTX+.

It is? How long the biggest card I can take is a 9.6" card also the 4870 is 100 dollers more.. so how much of a performance difference is the 4870 to the 4850..?

The 4870 is supposedly 9.5 inches as shown above, and if you have a monitor thats a 24 inch or over and you get the 4870 1gb for 100$ more yes I think it's worth it ( should only be 80$ more though if you're in the US)
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#38 Sordidus
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[QUOTE="Sordidus"]

[QUOTE="Shadowhawk000"]I would get the 4870 but its too expensive for me.. and im not sure if it would fit in my case.. Shadowhawk000

If I'm not mistaken, the HD4870 it's shorter than the 9800GTX+.

It is? How long the biggest card I can take is a 9.6" card also the 4870 is 100 dollers more.. so how much of a performance difference is the 4870 to the 4850..?

I think the 9800GTX it's 10.5 inches.

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#39 kaitanuvax
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There's a simple way to find the lengths of video cards.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/kaitanuvax/MEASURINGFORIDIOTS.png

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[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]My 9800GTX (non +) outperforms my HD4850 by a long shot. NVIDIA is always the safer bet.GTR2addict
no, it doesnt

Yes, it does.
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[QUOTE="GTR2addict"][QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]My 9800GTX (non +) outperforms my HD4850 by a long shot. NVIDIA is always the safer bet.GodLovesDead
no, it doesnt

Yes, it does.

No it doesnt :P Check out this review: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341

And if your 9800GTX is outperforming your 4850, you are doing something wrong or the card is defective!

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#42 NSR34GTR
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id go for ati
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#43 All_that_is_Man
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more games are Nvidia optimised, the cards generally look better and more well put together, Call of duty 5 is much mroe expensive that R6V2(you could buy for 20 new)

and I trust PNY brand alot more than I trust MSI for video cards

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#44 Auraknight1
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[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"][QUOTE="GTR2addict"] no, it doesntMr_NoName111

Yes, it does.

No it doesnt :P Check out this review: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341

And if your 9800GTX is outperforming your 4850, you are doing something wrong or the card is defective!

Agreed, it should not be outperforming your 4850 at all
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#45 hofuldig
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If you're playing crysis,go nvidia.If not,just get the 4850.darx55
for everyone to know the ATI HD 4850 will Max Crysis in DX9 and DX10.... i own an HD 4870 and my friend owns a HD 4850 and i must say the performance is close
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#46 Shadowhawk000
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Well in percentage how much differnece between the 4850 and 4870 is there?
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#47 marcthpro
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http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2008/11/28/gigabyte-gv-r485mc-1gh-radeon-hd-4850-1gb/5