A New AGP Graphics Card Replacing my Nvidia Geforce 6200

So, a couple of days ago I got these two really good games I completely love known as Brawl Busters and Team Fortress 2. Yes, I have Steam. With my crappy 6200, I run Brawl Busters with the lowest settings and with a slight lag. On TF2 I lag A LOT since it requires nvidia 8 series card. Here are Brawl Buster's system requirements: Minimum: OS: Windows XP / Vista / 7 Processor: P4 2.0GHz Memory: 512MB Hard Disk Space: 2GB Video Card: GeForce FX 5600, ATI 9600 PRO DirectX®: 9.0 C Recommended: OS: Windows XP / Vista / 7 Processor: Dual Core Memory: 1GB or higher Hard Disk Space: 2GB Video Card: GeForce FX 6800GT, ATI X800 PRO DirectX®: 9.0 C Here are Team Fortress 2's System Requirements: Minimum: 1.7 GHz Processor, 512MB RAM, DirectX® 8.1 level Graphics Card (Requires support for SSE), Windows® 7 (32/64-bit)/Vista/XP, Mouse, Keyboard, Internet Connection Recommended: Pentium 4 processor (3.0GHz, or better), 1GB RAM, DirectX® 9 level Graphics Card, Windows® 7 (32/64-bit)/Vista/XP, Mouse, Keyboard, Internet Connection My System Specs: Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) System Manufacturer: Dell System Model: OptiPlex GX270 BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A03 Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.26GHZ Memory: 2046MB RAM Page file: 926MB used, 5063 available DirectX Version: 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904) Display - Name: NVIDIA GeForce 6200 Manufacturer: NVIDIA DAC Type: Integrated RAMDAC Apprx. Total Mem: 512.0MB Current Disp: 1920x1080 (32-bit) (60Hz) Monitor: Plug-and-Play Monitor My budget for a new graphics card is around $150-200. I've looked at graphic cards like 7800GS and 7300GS that are agp, but why do they cost so much. 7800GS costs like $350. I don't have an Pci-E bus slots in my computer. Sorry. That's why I hate my computer. I only got 4 pci slots open and the agp that I'm using right now with that 6200. Thanks in Advance!

AGP is so expensive because it's old and very hard to find. I think you'd be better off saving for a new computer. If you have to buy an AGP card instead of getting a new computer, something like thishttp://www.amazon.com/HIS-Radeon-Native-Graphics-H467QS1GHA/dp/B003CYKCG8would work. Granted, you can get cards that are significantly better for the same price if they are PCIe.

Take the money you would spend on an AGP card now and buy a giftcard to somewhere like newegg and keep buying those until they add up to enough to put together a better rig.

You can put together a pretty upgradable machine that will suit your current needs for like 400 bucks.

It's in the main post.ukiegunz

with a laptop, for gaming you'd be in the exact same boat you are in now 2 years from now.

Wait just to make sure, GummiRacoon, will that Graphics card you had posted about in the beginning run tf2 smoothly? Oh yeah and since I have a DDR2 nvidia geforce 6200 in a computer that has DDR ram will my yet-to-be HIS Radeon hd 4670 DDR3 work with my DDR1 Ram?ukiegunz

What graphics card did I post?

8800GT. Nuff said.

You don't need $5000 to run those games when $650 can give you the best performance with a Phenom II and a GTX460

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=18615285

Waste of time and money.

The AGP 4670 should run TF2 at decent frame rates depending on the resolution. I just think your money would be better spent somewhere else. The $112 you would be spending on the AGP version is almost 3 times what I spent on the PCIe version 2 years ago. AGP is old and dead. You could build a $500-600 computer that would tear through TF2 quite easily. That is what I would recommend.

I'd just hate for you to spend $110 on a graphics card, only to find out that you aren't satisfied with the result. Then, if you wanted a completely new computer, you'd have to buy another graphics card. No new motherboards have AGP, that I know of anyway. AGP is old and dead. It's not worth it to buy an AGP card today.

You don't need $5000 to run those games when $650 can give you the best performance with a Phenom II and a GTX460

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=18615285

FireEmblem_Man

Ill just get a his hd 4670. End of discussionukiegunz

You will notice nearly no performance increase. End of discussion

The AGP 4670 should run TF2 at decent frame rates depending on the resolution. I just think your money would be better spent somewhere else. The $112 you would be spending on the AGP version is almost 3 times what I spent on the PCIe version 2 years ago. AGP is old and dead. You could build a $500-600 computer that would tear through TF2 quite easily. That is what I would recommend.

I'd just hate for you to spend $110 on a graphics card, only to find out that you aren't satisfied with the result. Then, if you wanted a completely new computer, you'd have to buy another graphics card. No new motherboards have AGP, that I know of anyway. AGP is old and dead. It's not worth it to buy an AGP card today.

ryguy64

I have a feeling TF2 would still be unplayable even with a 4670. My secondary/web browsing system that houses a single core s754 Sempron @ 2.3GHz has trouble playing Tf2 at a playable framerate even when paired with an ATi 4850, and if I recall correctly, the P4's were quite a bit slower than even the Semprons clock-for-clock.

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The AGP 4670 should run TF2 at decent frame rates depending on the resolution. I just think your money would be better spent somewhere else. The $112 you would be spending on the AGP version is almost 3 times what I spent on the PCIe version 2 years ago. AGP is old and dead. You could build a $500-600 computer that would tear through TF2 quite easily. That is what I would recommend.

I'd just hate for you to spend $110 on a graphics card, only to find out that you aren't satisfied with the result. Then, if you wanted a completely new computer, you'd have to buy another graphics card. No new motherboards have AGP, that I know of anyway. AGP is old and dead. It's not worth it to buy an AGP card today.

GS550L

I have a feeling TF2 would still be unplayable even with a 4670. My secondary/web browsing system that houses a single core s754 Sempron @ 2.3GHz has trouble playing Tf2 at a playable framerate even when paired with an ATi 4850, and if I recall correctly, the P4's were quite a bit slower than even the Semprons clock-for-clock.

That could be. I have an older dual core (x2 5000+) with a 4670, and TF2 ran just fine. I bet your problem (and the TC's) is more of a CPU problem. That's why I recommended he save his money and get a new computer.

I have no idea how to build and customize my own computer...ukiegunz

Well you are in luck kind sir, we have a guide as a sticky in this very forum.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/26986920/picture-guide-to-computer-building-and-hardware-installation-56k

Still, I just don't have any experience with anything to do with computersukiegunz