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#1 zombiefruit
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I wanted to build a new system for my grandfather as his is quite slow. I've built one other computer before that went smoothly and I foolishly assumed that this one would be the same. Here are the specs:

Intel i7 920
4GB DDR3 Mushkin Ram (3rd DDR3 spped, can't remember)
Gigabyte EX58-UD3R Motherboard (I think this is the problem)
Antec Truepower 650W PSU
Asus EAH4550 512mb
1TB Seagate HDD (5900 rpm version)
Generic Antec Three Hundred Case

I put all the stuff together, careful to keep myself grounded by touching the PSU of a turned on computer. Everything went together smoothly, I plug it in and I see a flash of an LED, a whizz of a fan and then nothing. Less than one second of juice. Now here are the specific symptoms:

PSU fan spins but stops first.
CPU fan spins.
Case fans spin.
No lights on the Mobo on.
No display.
No sound (beeps or otherwise)

I have tried:

Switching RAM into all slots, separately and together.
I have re-aseated the CPU and heatsink twice.
Checked that the thermal paste was evenly spread.
Tested the PSU in another computer, which I knew was working. The computer turned on. Used the PSU from the working computer in the new computer, nothing happened.
Took the whole system out and built a bench system on the Mobo box. Nothing.
Reset the CMOS. Nothing.
Took out the GPU, re-seated the GPU, etc. Nothing.
Prayed to every god I could think of to get my computer working. Nothing.

Any suggestions? Sadly, it's Canada Day tomorrow and all the stores are closed to returning any parts will be hard. I will have to do that on Thursday. Still, if anyone has any suggestions that would be great.

EDIT: And I checked the mounting posts in the case. All are good.

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#2 GTR12
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Have u tried shorting the "on" switch with a screwdriver or something? Is that what u ment buy "building on mobo case"?

Can u try use a different cpu, fan just to rule out those two from being "broken"?

edit:

Does ur grandfather really need an I7 in the 1st place? unless he is some sort of extreme gamer or video editor. If it were me, I would have just got him a core 2, or at best a quad.

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#3 Luminouslight
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Ok, I had the same exact problem. With the same motherboard too. It turned out that triple channel refused to work. It took me hours to figure out, but my problem was that one of the CPU pins on the motherboard was bent. I moved it back to place, reseated the CPU and ta da! That may not be your problem though.
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#4 zombiefruit
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Ok, I had the same exact problem. With the same motherboard too. It turned out that triple channel refused to work. It took me hours to figure out, but my problem was that one of the CPU pins on the motherboard was bent. I moved it back to place, reseated the CPU and ta da! That may not be your problem though.Luminouslight
I'll do an examination of the CPU slot right now, thanks for the tip. The Heatsink is fine, and I turned on the system via screwdriver short.
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#5 zombiefruit
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Nothing wrong with the CPU. Darn.
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I'd say it's your motherboard, although, is your grandfather going to play Cryostasis, Crysis or GTA IV? That is quite a powerful PC and if he is just going to check mails then I'd suggest you sell those parts if he isn't going to use it for gaming.

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#8 samuraiguns
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I'd say it's your motherboard, although, is your grandfather going to play Cryostasis, Crysis or GTA IV? That is quite a powerful PC and if he is just going to check mails then I'd suggest you sell those parts if he isn't going to use it for gaming.

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He is not going to be even touching the Crysis with an HD 4550. ;)
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#9 aura_enchanted
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[QUOTE="KillerJuan77"]

I'd say it's your motherboard, although, is your grandfather going to play Cryostasis, Crysis or GTA IV? That is quite a powerful PC and if he is just going to check mails then I'd suggest you sell those parts if he isn't going to use it for gaming.

samuraiguns

He is not going to be even touching the Crysis with an HD 4550. ;)

actually he probably could on lowest with a 18-19" monitor fool it can crunch out CoD4 on medium on alot of resolutions..

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#10 samuraiguns
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[QUOTE="samuraiguns"][QUOTE="KillerJuan77"]

I'd say it's your motherboard, although, is your grandfather going to play Cryostasis, Crysis or GTA IV? That is quite a powerful PC and if he is just going to check mails then I'd suggest you sell those parts if he isn't going to use it for gaming.

aura_enchanted

He is not going to be even touching the Crysis with an HD 4550. ;)

actually he probably could on lowest with a 18-19" monitor fool it can crunch out CoD4 on medium on alot of resolutions..

who wants to play Crysis on low? Why'd you have to call me a fool?
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#11 KALIBARRR
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Had this exact problem with a dead motherboard. Examining it, I couldn't find a single thing wrong with it, but it was definately the motherboard.

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#12 Daytona_178
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You gave your grandad a i7? I havnt ever met someone over 40 who needs anything over a 3Ghz Pentium 4 :)

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#13 aura_enchanted
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daytona nah man give em a celeron.. the brand name cpu for the chimp pc owners XD

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#14 Luminouslight
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Nothing wrong with the CPU. Darn. zombiefruit
You misread me. The problem is the motherboard slot.
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#15 zombiefruit
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You gave your grandad a i7? I havnt ever met someone over 40 who needs anything over a 3Ghz Pentium 4 :)

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That's actually what he has now and it's damn slow. Now let me explain the logic behind getting him an i7: I put together 3 different virtual systems. A cheapo, lowest-of-the-low Core 2 system. A system built around the Q9550. A system built around the i7. He said he didn't care about price (pension, and a business expense) and he wanted the best. That left the Q9550 and the i7. Do you want to know the difference between the two systems? This is the difference in price between RAM, CPU and motherboard. $123 I went with the i7 as I expect it to last around 6 years for him, at least. 4 fans in the case, 45nm chip, good heatsink and the i7 will last forever. Plus, in 4 years when he needs more RAM, where am I going to find DDR2 ram? This way he has room for 16GB of DDR3, enough to keep him going for ever.
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#16 zombiefruit
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[QUOTE="zombiefruit"]Nothing wrong with the CPU. Darn. Luminouslight
You misread me. The problem is the motherboard slot.

Nah, I read you right, I just stupidly said CPU instead of CPU slot. :P There are about a trillion pins in the 1366 slot so I could'nt really see anything, and I was sure that I couldn't fix it if I saw it. But all the pins looked uniform.
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#17 Daytona_178
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[QUOTE="Daytona_178"]

You gave your grandad a i7? I havnt ever met someone over 40 who needs anything over a 3Ghz Pentium 4 :)

zombiefruit
That's actually what he has now and it's damn slow. Now let me explain the logic behind getting him an i7: I put together 3 different virtual systems. A cheapo, lowest-of-the-low Core 2 system. A system built around the Q9550. A system built around the i7. He said he didn't care about price (pension, and a business expense) and he wanted the best. That left the Q9550 and the i7. Do you want to know the difference between the two systems? This is the difference in price between RAM, CPU and motherboard. $123 I went with the i7 as I expect it to last around 6 years for him, at least. 4 fans in the case, 45nm chip, good heatsink and the i7 will last forever. Plus, in 4 years when he needs more RAM, where am I going to find DDR2 ram? This way he has room for 16GB of DDR3, enough to keep him going for ever.

He would have been much better with a 3Ghz core2duo and a SSD,,,,that way he would actually have some benefit from the expensive stuff because the OS would load twice as fast...thats just my opinion though.
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#18 zombiefruit
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[QUOTE="zombiefruit"][QUOTE="Daytona_178"]

You gave your grandad a i7? I havnt ever met someone over 40 who needs anything over a 3Ghz Pentium 4 :)

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He would have been much better with a 3Ghz core2duo and a SSD,,,,that way he would actually have some benefit from the expensive stuff because the OS would load twice as fast...thats just my opinion though.

I don't know if a SSD is double the speed because I haven't done any research , but this cpu is so powerful he won't need another for a minimum of what I'm hoping will be 6 years. A cheap Core 2 would last him around 4. And for the price difference, not to mention that it's Canadian prices, I think the i7 is a good choice. What is $123 CAD in USD? $0.50 now?
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[QUOTE="zombiefruit"][QUOTE="Daytona_178"][QUOTE="zombiefruit"] Response..

He would have been much better with a 3Ghz core2duo and a SSD,,,,that way he would actually have some benefit from the expensive stuff because the OS would load twice as fast...thats just my opinion though.

I don't know if a SSD is double the speed because I haven't done any research , but this cpu is so powerful he won't need another for a minimum of what I'm hoping will be 6 years. A cheap Core 2 would last him around 4. And for the price difference, not to mention that it's Canadian prices, I think the i7 is a good choice. What is $123 CAD in USD? $0.50 now?

Ah man, a high end SSD loads windows in literally half of the time of any HDD.
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#20 zombiefruit
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To be honest, I kind of retired the idea of an SSD to laptop configurations, not desktop. I'll have to look into it. Thanks for that.
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#21 Daytona_178
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To be honest, I kind of retired the idea of an SSD to laptop configurations, not desktop. I'll have to look into it. Thanks for that.zombiefruit

No probs.

btw, tf2 rocks!

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#22 zombiefruit
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[QUOTE="zombiefruit"]To be honest, I kind of retired the idea of an SSD to laptop configurations, not desktop. I'll have to look into it. Thanks for that.Daytona_178

No probs.

btw, tf2 rocks!

I can agree on that!