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Hello,

I currently debating what card i should buy. Its for my AGP rig.

i have a p4 2.8, 2gig ddr2, 9600xt, 550w PS

I have done alot of research and the x1950pro is seems to be the most liked AGP card on the market. But the newly released HD2600xt has an incredible advertised 800mhz core clock. but there isn't much info past that. no solid reviews of the card. Seems like people always having compatibility problems with games and the card winds up running slower then older 9x00 cards?? this confuses me, and I dont know if its worth the risk. (money is a big issue, because i need to save as much as i can this winter, so upgrading my pc will keep me home... saving money.)

On one hand the: x1950 is a solid running card with proven performance. about 575 core speed, and about 1300 mem speeds.

On the other hand: HD 2600xt, seems risky, because of the mixed reviews but 800 mhz. core speeds!! and about 1500 mem speed? for some reason this seems too good to be true... why?

the price differance isnt much between the two...

so... what would u get?

so... what would u get?

ChrisCheezer

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so... what would u get?

itsme185

Yup. Main reason I'm upgrading my motherboard this chrimbo.

HD 2600XT.Indestructible2

I agree with itsme185, but if you HAVE to stay with agp, go with the 1950. The business with core and memory speeds is all talk. the 1950 performs better in thr real world. Get the 2600 only if you need to have DX10kmusky

Can't change my board, and all, can't afford it. i HAVE to have AGP. can u go into detail about the 2600? why it doesnt preform as well as it should? i dont need dx10, BUt... if im going to upgrade i want to get the best of the best, so it will last as long as possable before i have to do the switch to pci-e (in about a year)

HD 2600XT fares almost asgood if not better than X1950Pro in newer games,plus its a good deal cheaper.

Also uses less power.

he has a 2600xt and he recommends everyone a 2600xt. but at least he's speaking from experienceepstylo

Uprgaded my nephews 9800pro agp to a 2600pro agp on a system far, far less than yours and probably doubled his performance in WoW for a example. The image quality is also better.

The performance of the 1900 series is better in a lot of games. But it also starts to fall closer to the 2600 in some newer games. The 2600 has support for newer shaders and other things for hd.

Around here the price difference is nearly double for the 1900pro over the 2600pro. Which reflects nearly double the frame rate in most games out right now.

Check out some benchmarks in the games you plan on using with the cards. You might like or need new shader support, or give that up for better over all performance.

First off, for AGP, the best that nVidia offers just isn't at all good enough. All of the X1950 AGPs are better, including the very reasonably priced "GT". Second, Dx10 is not a factor for game players, and won't be for another 18-24 months. Both ATI and nVidia have brand new architectures, and both are struggling mightily with Dx10 drivers, and for every step in the right direction, keep losing half-steps backward. ATI is having problems with Dx9 also, at least for AGP, so that the last couple of Catalyst sets just aren't recommended for owners of their AGP cards.

If anyone with an old AGP MB thinks they must have Dx10, wait for AGP versions of the HD 3850.

First off, for AGP, the best that nVidia offers just isn't at all good enough. All of the X1950 AGPs are better, including the very reasonably priced "GT". Second, Dx10 is not a factor for game players, and won't be for another 18-24 months. Both ATI and nVidia have brand new architectures, and both are struggling mightily with Dx10 drivers, and for every step in the right direction, keep losing half-steps backward. ATI is having problems with Dx9 also, at least for AGP, so that the last couple of Catalyst sets just aren't recommended for owners of their AGP cards.

If anyone with an old AGP MB thinks they must have Dx10, wait for AGP versions of the HD 3850.

Kiwi_1

Oh,and here's benchies showing what HD 2600XT can do: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3128&p=4

The HD 2600 XT can't even beat the cheapest X1950, the GT, on either speed or price:

http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_2007.html?modelx=33&model1=858&model2=726&chart=296

Toms hardware = FAIL.

They're highly inaccurate (Partly because they DON'T UPDATE DRIVERS)

You fail Kiwi.

why not spend the extra the agp card costs on a new dual core cpu and mob? the difference between the pcie and agp version of the x1950pro is almost enough to buy a 4000+x2 which will cream you current p4imprezawrx500

And he said money is a problem,so a new rig is out of the question.

might be the end of this delema BUT.., for some-reason the x1950pro's are out of stock everywhere i look. and if their instock it's $200!! a week ago they were 145.

-i pretty sure im goin with a HIS x1950pro, they seems to have a better card then most.

everywhere i read its the same thing with the HD2600xt, it refered to as "not a gaming card". and they are soooo cheep. The price is so low it has me suspicious of their performance. dx10 or not i dont see this agp card doing anything productive. lol

Building my entire system is out of the question... i wish i could, i wouldn't think twice. agp sucks, i have to make the best of it for now. i can spend about 175 bucks MAx, i just spent 200 bucks in gas for my welder for the cage in my 240.. now im really tight with money, but atleast its winter i can hibernate. (hopefully with a good gaming rig.)

thanx guys for all ur help,

he said he had '2gb ddr2' on an agp board, aint that impssible

he said he had '2gb ddr2' on an agp board, aint that impssible

saifiii

he said he had '2gb ddr2' on an agp board, aint that impssible

saifiii

Intel has been using DDR2 RAM for a hell of a long time - it's entirely possible to have a slower Pentium 4 processor with DDR2 RAM.

That being said, the HD2600XT will be find for your system - you've got a rather slow processor anyway, and beefing up your graphics card too much isn't going to yield huge performance gains.