Alright well, I knew there would be a problem after installing new parts

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#1 Pvt_r3d
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I exchanged my motherboard, gpu, dvd drive, and cpu for a newer one. When I try to boot my computer it starts up but no signal is received by my monitor. All the fans appear to be working as well as motherboard lights. What I think it could be is the PSU is not up to snuff with the rest of the components. Sometimes the system will start up but then would reset after a couple of seconds. Here is the part list. What tests can I perform? CPU Heatsink: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K Haswell Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 GPU: GIGABYTE GV-N770OC-4GD GeForce GTX 770 4GB PSU: CORSAIR TX Series CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V RAM: Crucial Ballistix 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (Correctly seated) Could the problem be the unformatted old HDD? Thanks a bunch for the help guys
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#2 MonsieurX
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Remove 1 of the 2 ram sticks then try to boot,then test other ram stick
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#3 04dcarraher
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make sure all power connection are in the gpu and make sure the gpu seated all the way in the slot too.
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#4 Pvt_r3d
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Some comments for the motherboard suggest that the board wont post unless compatible (selected) RAM is inserted. Alright, I tested my RAM one by one but my motherboard still fails to post. I'll build it again and see if I can somehow fix it that way.
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#5 Pvt_r3d
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I did one last check. I unplugged the entire motherboard from my case and tested for DOA possibility. All that was plugged in was the cpu fan, the two large power plugs for the motherboard, RAM in the right slots and the power switch. Still no connection to the monitor despite power seemingly flowing well. I can only think of two results. The board is DOA, or the comment about the motherboard being picky about RAM being true.
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#6 superclocked
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Are you plugging your video cable into your videocard, and not your motherboard? I know it's a silly question, but brainfarts do happen sometimes :P
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#7 INF1DEL
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A quick google search came up with a list of supported RAM. Yours isn't on the list. I don't know if that means it won't work or if it's just 'not supported' and may or may not, but that may be the problem. You might want to try reformatting your hard drive if you haven't already.

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#8 metacritical
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i've never taken any notice of "supported RAM" lists and i've never had a problem. from a quick google the mobo doesn't support ECC RAM but since most RAM is non-ECC i doubt it's a problem. though having the exact model number for the RAM would help. some causes that i have had of non-booting new builds: not connecting the little power/reset cables from the case to the mobo (i never connect the hard drive cables as the flickering blue light annoys me so you can ignore those) forgetting to plug in power cables to DVD-ROMs if the SATA cable was connected (that was a weird one) not connecting the CPU power cable poor quality PSU not good enough to power the upgrade (yours is probably fine as it's tier 2 PSU) not connecting the GPU cable(s) plugging in the VGA cable to the motherboard rather than my first ever graphics card (that was stupid as i had to put my base unit in a holdall and cycle with it on my back a few miles to the techies at my university; it was my first PC and was before google even existed)
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#9 blaznwiipspman1
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make sure you plug in the pci-e connectors in to the gpu properly.  If you took a few pictures of your build as it is, front/back/side view then we can possibly figure it out.

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#10 Pvt_r3d
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Most of the possibilities that you guys mentioned shouldn't exist when I'm just running the motherboard outside the box with barebone requirements. I just bought 2 x 4GB of Corsair Vengeance RAM but still no post. I am now strongly considering RMAing the board. This is the first time I ever had a dead board and a different brand. Here is my bare-bones motherboard. You can't really see much. Let me know if you want a more specific picture. http://postimg.org/gallery/bko0tkty/9f6c8dca/ Again, this is how I tested the motherboard for DOA; maybe my test is insufficient evidence for a DOA. Processor and CPU heatsink is installed with the cpu fan plugged in to the motherboard. Case power switch is plugged in to the correct outlet, CPU and motherboard power connectors are plugged in, 2 x 4 GB of ram plugged in in dual channel, and of course my monitor is plugged in directly to the motherboard. I'll check the processor for bent pins again, I'm sure it's not it though. Only other reason could be the PSU but I can't see why that would be the case if it worked an hour before I put it in this system.
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#11 Pvt_r3d
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Alright, I didn't think of this before but there was one pin that was bent a little before I put in the processor. I didn't think it would factor in very much, could it? Here are some somewhat fuzzy pictures; it was the closest I could get. http://postimg.org/gallery/2x4q5kr0/65d57441/
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#12 superclocked
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[QUOTE="Pvt_r3d"]Alright, I didn't think of this before but there was one pin that was bent a little before I put in the processor. I didn't think it would factor in very much, could it? Here are some somewhat fuzzy pictures; it was the closest I could get. http://postimg.org/gallery/2x4q5kr0/65d57441/

Use a needle or razor blade to straighten it out. Or if you're tired of wasting thermal paste, just RMA the board...
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#13 Pvt_r3d
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[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="Pvt_r3d"]Alright, I didn't think of this before but there was one pin that was bent a little before I put in the processor. I didn't think it would factor in very much, could it? Here are some somewhat fuzzy pictures; it was the closest I could get. http://postimg.org/gallery/2x4q5kr0/65d57441/

Use a needle or razor blade to straighten it out. Or if you're tired of wasting thermal paste, just RMA the board...

Bent it back slightly but nope, still no reponse. Looks like I have no choice but to RMA, god I hate sending things back.
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#14 Pvt_r3d
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Well, I bought a new G45 motherboard but it turns out it doesn't post either. The only remaining possible problem would be my old power supply. Does Haswell CPUs demand specific highly rated PSUs? What are the chances that my 3-7 year old PSU would be compatible (keep in mind that it could be the problem)?
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#15 jcknapier711
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The pictures you posted won't load. At least for me. I prefer imgur or postimage. Did you try a different GPU? I have a spare PCI just for the occasion. If one of the pins on your CPU is damaged, I'd say that's what you need replaced, not the motherboard. Are you sure you aligned the little triangle. They are called zero insertion force sockets for a reason. Also, is there an LED output on your board? Check the manual to see what it is. Are there any open power plugs on your motherboard? I would think 650w should be enough to at least post. If it was intermittently posting then I might suspect it.
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#16 Pvt_r3d
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[QUOTE="jcknapier711"]The pictures you posted won't load. At least for me. I prefer imgur or postimage. Did you try a different GPU? I have a spare PCI just for the occasion. If one of the pins on your CPU is damaged, I'd say that's what you need replaced, not the motherboard. Are you sure you aligned the little triangle. They are called zero insertion force sockets for a reason. Also, is there an LED output on your board? Check the manual to see what it is. Are there any open power plugs on your motherboard? I would think 650w should be enough to at least post. If it was intermittently posting then I might suspect it.

Those are just old pictures. That board was already RMAd back to Newegg. The new board I got at the local Tiger's Direct with no bent pins had the same exact problem which is why I suspected the PSU even though it seems to power everything fine.
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#17 jcknapier711
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At this point, I think your problem might be the connection to the monitor. There's a switch in the BIOS to switch from onboard graphics to PCI/PCIe graphics. Since you cannot post, all you can do is switch the physical adapters. I don't think the problem is the PSU, because then it would POST sometimes but sometimes not. At least, that's what happens when I've had PSU issues. Reading this thread, I'm not convinced the problem was ever a defective part.