Am i the only one who thinks GTA 4....

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#1 mattuk69
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Is the second best looking game next to crysis on PC?

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#2 dos4gw82
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Probably, but it does look quite beautiful.

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#3 dakan45
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Nope, the game looks like broken, i would put arma 2 of far cry 2 on a higher graphics state anytime, also why not batman AA?
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#4 charmingcharlie
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Well I wouldn't say you were the "only one" I am sure there are others that think this is a "masterpiece" however most will acknowledge it was totally ruined with horrible graphical bugs, missing assets, horrible flickering shadows and a ridiculous lack of AA. So no GTA 4 is not the second best looking game after Crysis, it isn't even in the top 50 best looking games after Crysis it is just a horrible jagged mess of crap.

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#5 GhoX
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Once you have seen more, GTA4's graphics would be closer to medicore than top-notch.
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#6 kevy619
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its overambitious, they should of just made the graphics a little more simple.

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#7 Macutchi
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Is the second best looking game next to crysis on PC?

mattuk69

yes i do, or at least i did. i made a blog post saying the exact same thing about it about a year ago. shame so many have encountered problems with it or cant run it on high/very high settings at 1920 x 1080 or above because it looks incredible if you can get it to run smoothly

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#8 DanielDust
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Yep, considering it's the most complex game out there, I'd say it looks even better and yes, I played Crysis and Warhead, maxed out at a high resolution.

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#9 kevy619
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Nope, the game looks like broken, i would put arma 2 of far cry 2 on a higher graphics state anytime, also why not batman AA?dakan45
Well batman aa is just a bunch of nice textures, nothing very impressive. Everything seems clunky in ue3 games, and draw distance is always low (hidden by small areas). Now gta iv, its just trying too hard and ends up looking worse for it. On the other hand, at 1920*1080 or higher, the glitches in gtaiv's graphics become less apparent and it starts to look amazing.

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#10 Baranga
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Looks like a big pile of pudding. Nothing impressive except for car damage and Euphoria.

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i think second best looking game is Dirt 2
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#12 dakan45
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[QUOTE="dakan45"]Nope, the game looks like broken, i would put arma 2 of far cry 2 on a higher graphics state anytime, also why not batman AA?kevy619

Everything seems clunky in ue3 games, On the other hand, at 1920*1080 or higher, the glitches in gtaiv's graphics become less apparent and it starts to look amazing.

Not batman, it looks better than every other u3 game, better textures, lighting and detail. I can run gta iv at 1680x1050, not higher and i cant force AA on. At that resolition all games should look good, only terrible console ports look ugly at that resolution. I dont consider good graphics a game that requires 1920x 1080 or higher to look sharp!
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#13 charmingcharlie
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If you want to try and make something of the mess that is GTA 4 then you want to look for Environmental Mod V5 that does a pretty decent job of correcting some of the screw ups Rockstar did. However it does beg the question "if a modder can do it why can't Rockstar Toronto get off their arse and do it ?". We can but hope that they learn from their mistakes in GTA 4 and do a damn sight better for the next GTA. Unfortunately history tells us that Rockstar never learn from their mistakes and we can expect the same crap in the next GTA.

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#14 RichardStallman
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Yes, and it's the best looking open world game without a doubt. Also the physics are the best.
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It's the most detailed game I have ever played.

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During the daytime the game can look pretty ugly, but there are times when it just looks jawdropping (a night time storm, sunset).
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#17 dakan45
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If you want to try and make something of the mess that is GTA 4 then you want to look for Environmental Mod V5 that does a pretty decent job of correcting some of the screw ups Rockstar did. However it does beg the question "if a modder can do it why can't Rockstar Toronto get off their arse and do it ?". We can but hope that they learn from their mistakes in GTA 4 and do a damn sight better for the next GTA. Unfortunately history tells us that Rockstar never learn from their mistakes and we can expect the same crap in the next GTA.

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I have seen that, however i wonder if i use the mod, will it lower the graphics quality or it will make things look better? I mean its a texture replacer mod right?
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#18 charmingcharlie
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As far as I know it doesn't replace the textures, I never dug into it deeply but when I used it the game looked much much better. The only downside to it is the reflection. I always felt the reflections were a bit top heavy (although you could probably tweak this if you could be bothered). At the end of the day you might as well give it a go, just back up your GTA 4 folder and if you don't like the mod then just put the backup files back.

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#19 chapman86
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look at closely to those car wheels...very low texture sets.

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#20 DJ_Headshot
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No arma 2,stalker clear sky,mirrors edge,devil may cry 4, unreal tournament 3, and crysis warhead look better then it infact alot games look better then it. And while overated gta was never about the graphics.

and are you kidding me with that pic its very unimpressive.

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#21 DanielDust
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Maybe I read wrong but are you actually comparing corridor shooters with GTA IV? (ARMA 2 nope, stalker less, but ME, DMC 4 -which is far from GTA IV- and UT 3?).

God some people, if you want to make arguments at least think before you post. None of those games, except ARMA2, are similar to GTA IV. But really, comparing GTA IV with Mirror's Edge, UT 3 and DMC 4 is just stupid.

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#22 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="kevy619"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"]Nope, the game looks like broken, i would put arma 2 of far cry 2 on a higher graphics state anytime, also why not batman AA?dakan45

Everything seems clunky in ue3 games, On the other hand, at 1920*1080 or higher, the glitches in gtaiv's graphics become less apparent and it starts to look amazing.

Not batman, it looks better than every other u3 game, better textures, lighting and detail. I can run gta iv at 1680x1050, not higher and i cant force AA on. At that resolition all games should look good, only terrible console ports look ugly at that resolution. I dont consider good graphics a game that requires 1920x 1080 or higher to look sharp!

Batman doesn't look that great. It looks good, but not great.
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#23 DJ_Headshot
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Maybe I read wrong but are you actually comparing corridor shooters with GTA IV? (ARMA 2 nope, stalker less, but ME, DMC 4 -which is far from GTA IV- and UT 3?).

God some people, if you want to make arguments at least think before you post. None of those games, except ARMA2, are similar to GTA IV. But really, comparing GTA IV with Mirror's Edge, UT 3 and DMC 4 is just stupid.

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yeah it is stupid since its pretty clear that mirrors edge,ut3, and dmc4 are the better looking games. scale doesn't make a game look better it actualy makes them look worse as the graphcis are generally toned down. only a few game like crysis and arma 2 can render huge open world with amazing graphics and its no coincidence there both pc exclusive

so gta IV compared to devil maycry 4,mirrors edge, ut3, and stalker clear sky you decide which games look better.

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#24 DanielDust
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Scale doesn't make a game look better? yeah, it doesn't, but a corridor shooter will always have better graphics than one with a huge world. Scale is the right word here which you seem to ignore. What you are doing is like comparing a room rendered with idtech 4 with a single leaf rendered with Cryengine 2 :/.
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#25 dakan45
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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="kevy619"] Everything seems clunky in ue3 games, On the other hand, at 1920*1080 or higher, the glitches in gtaiv's graphics become less apparent and it starts to look amazing.millerlight89
Not batman, it looks better than every other u3 game, better textures, lighting and detail. I can run gta iv at 1680x1050, not higher and i cant force AA on. At that resolition all games should look good, only terrible console ports look ugly at that resolution. I dont consider good graphics a game that requires 1920x 1080 or higher to look sharp!

Batman doesn't look that great. It looks good, but not great.

Its the best looking game in u3 engine, i would say on par with mirrors edge!

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#26 Cranler
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[QUOTE="DanielDust"]

Maybe I read wrong but are you actually comparing corridor shooters with GTA IV? (ARMA 2 nope, stalker less, but ME, DMC 4 -which is far from GTA IV- and UT 3?).

God some people, if you want to make arguments at least think before you post. None of those games, except ARMA2, are similar to GTA IV. But really, comparing GTA IV with Mirror's Edge, UT 3 and DMC 4 is just stupid.

The thread isnt about open world only games. Nothing wrong with bringing up those games except for the fact that no one mentioned Far Cry 2 which beats all including Crysis.
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#27 hamoksha0000
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What i see is this game is quiet impressive and i think its that game that we can say the 2nd after crysis

. for the games like bat man i think not the reason i dont like unreal engine its like plastic with nothing new every game developed by this engine is like gow or turok . this is my opinion

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#28 dakan45
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[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="DanielDust"]

Maybe I read wrong but are you actually comparing corridor shooters with GTA IV? (ARMA 2 nope, stalker less, but ME, DMC 4 -which is far from GTA IV- and UT 3?).

God some people, if you want to make arguments at least think before you post. None of those games, except ARMA2, are similar to GTA IV. But really, comparing GTA IV with Mirror's Edge, UT 3 and DMC 4 is just stupid.

The thread isnt about open world only games. Nothing wrong with bringing up those games except for the fact that no one mentioned Far Cry 2 which beats all including Crysis.

Well, yeah!! The reason i am sayings "yeah" is because someone will come up with reasons on why far cry 2 looks as good as it does and that it should not consider to have so good graphics for a open world game. Then i will remind that person that the thread was never about technical graphics since gta iv fails in the technical aspect!!
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#29 dakan45
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for the games like bat man i think not the reason i dont like unreal engine its like plastic with nothing new every game developed by this engine is like gow or turok . this is my opinion hamoksha0000

Batman is much more sharp and detailed than gow or turok or x men wolverine of any other unreal engine 3 game, plus far superior lighting and shaders. What they done with unreal engine 3 alone is impressive!

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#30 JN_Fenrir
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Every game mentioned in this thread looks utterly fantastic. You all need your eyes checked.
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#31 rhazzy
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ok nice topic...and i see that on this thread there are actually reasonable peopels not kids that are haveing fanboyism opinions...so giveing that fact i will make my top 5 best looking games and i will give few arguments why.

1.Far Cry 2 - i pick Far Cry 2 at number one because of the gigantic open world and the details in it...this is the only game that provides so many details in such a huge enviroment(not like a coridor shooter,wich may look better because the fact that it only renders such tiny portions)

And ofc another reason is the lightning wich make FarCry 2 such a graphical beauty.

2.Crysis - Now Crysis is allmost like FarCry 2 only with more animation and more character in it.

3.Batman AA - Like one of the guys here said this game feels so "plasticaly" :D BUT the shadows and lighting on this game are amazing,this is the most beautiful "u3 engine" game on the market atm.and ofc the detailed textures of the characters are pretty awesome.

4.GTA IV - I choose gta on number 4 only because of the huge open world that it has and the large amount of details in it...there are a lot more games out there that are more beautiful regarding to graphics,than gta iv BUT they dont have the insanely amount of detail like gta iv.

5.NFS Shift and DIRT 2 - I think NFS Shift has THE BEST lightning models(iam talking about the car models ofc) present in a game up to this date.And Dirt 2 has the most realistic roads/race enviroments seen in a game up to this date.

But let us not make the mistake of saying that an amazing looking game is a good game too...look at STALKER Clear Sky for example...excellent graphics,but a poor game overal.

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#32 thusaha
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It looks great but not that great.
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#33 VeryBumpy
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GTA4 gets dropped down several notches below other games due to its major jaggies with its lack of proper anti-aliasing support.

Mirrors Edge, Dirt2, Stalkers all easily come before GTA4.

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#34 millerlight89
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GTA4 gets dropped down several notches below other games due to its major jaggies with its lack of proper anti-aliasing support.

Mirrors Edge, Dirt2, Stalkers all easily come before GTA4.

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I agree, if we could reduce jaggies it would help. I also think the shadows are jacked. Though there are mods for that I think.
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#35 jedinat
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I find it strange that you try to persuade us with that horribly squashed image.
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#36 mkaliaz
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I find it strange that you try to persuade us with that horribly squashed image.jedinat

LOL, seriously.

I liked GTA4, but praising that game on GS is reallllly asking for it. :P

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#37 mattuk69
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Maybe now with Episodes from liberty city on its way to the PC. Rockstar may add AA and fix pixelated shadows?? But i doubt it.....:)
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#38 wraithbladeuk
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I was running this game at max settings on high screen rez and the lack of AA killed it completely. Its not a bad looking game, but in the face of Farcry 2, Batman AA and others it's by far not the best, I'd say not even top 10

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#39 ekultus
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graphics were good but the game was a failport. but looking at that image does make me wanna play though, just roll around, shoot some pigs, eat some cheeseburgers, rape some hookers that kinda thing :D