AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ @ 3.0ghz or Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.0ghz

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#1 KurganUK23
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Which of these is the better cpu, mostly for gaming but want it for all round as well.

I was going with the AMD as ive had AMD for years now and its been a good experience and I must say ive become a big fan but im hearing really good things about Core 2 Duo.

Is anyone able to supply benchmarks and such like to show which is better.

Thanks

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#2 Daytona_178
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Intel is better!
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#3 sihunt
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Hi I think this will give you an idea. Some people don't like Tom's but I don't think these stats are too far off.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/cpu-charts-2008-q1-2008/compare,369.html?prod%5B1267%5D=on&prod%5B1252%5D=on

EDIT: Be aware on some of these scores lower number is better!!!

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#4 KurganUK23
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Hi I think this will give you an idea. Some people don't like Tom's but I don't think these stats are too far off.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/cpu-charts-2008-q1-2008/compare,369.html?prod%5B1267%5D=on∏%5B1252%5D=on

EDIT: Be aware on some of these scores lower number is better!!!

sihunt

LOL thats the same site i've found myself and WOW all the Core 2 Duo series outperforms the X2 Athlon series, think as much as it pains me to say it I might just be switching to Intel.

Can anyone give me a user tried opinion on the E8400 please?

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#5 ticktocktick201
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E8400 all day long, but it depends on ur budget, since the amd is cheaper, but the intel is definately the better performer
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#6 swehunt
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Can anyone give me a user tried opinion on the E8400 please?

KurganUK23

I can't give you a user tried oppinion but i can give you a summary of many other's thougths.

*It's Cool, OC way over 4ghz, and one of the fastest dualcore already at stock speeds.*

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#7 KurganUK23
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E8400 all day long, but it depends on ur budget, since the amd is cheaper, but the intel is definately the better performerticktocktick201

I can just work either into my budget, think the INTEL will take it like £20 over but thats not a prob, whats an extra £20 if the performance and gaming potential going to be so much better.

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#8 KurganUK23
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[QUOTE="KurganUK23"]

Can anyone give me a user tried opinion on the E8400 please?

swehunt

I can't give you a user tried oppinion but i can give you a summary of many other's thougths.

*It's Cool, OC way over 4ghz, and one of the fastest dualcore already at stock speeds.*

That last bit sounds good to me "and one of the fastest dualcore already at stock speeds", im not a big overclocker to be honest, only tried once but couldnt get my head around it enough so im looking for best power at stock.

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[QUOTE="sihunt"]

Hi I think this will give you an idea. Some people don't like Tom's but I don't think these stats are too far off.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/cpu-charts-2008-q1-2008/compare,369.html?prod%5B1267%5D=on∏%5B1252%5D=on

EDIT: Be aware on some of these scores lower number is better!!!

KurganUK23

LOL thats the same site i've found myself and WOW all the Core 2 Duo series outperforms the X2 Athlon series, think as much as it pains me to say it I might just be switching to Intel.

Can anyone give me a user tried opinion on the E8400 please?

I've got one of the little brothers of the E8400 and it runs like a dream.

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#10 dawma88
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Get the Intel !! you can easily OC to 4Ghz!!
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#11 crazydude62
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if your not a big OC person, i would go with AMD. Intel is better for overclocking. right off the bat you can turn up the multiplier, wich is locked on AMD, except in the Black edition AMD cores, wich are usualy not much more expensive. if you are an overclocker, and u wanted to go with amd, i would go with the AMD Athlon 6000+ x2 black edition. even though the black edition is a touch more expensive then other AMD processors, it runs about the same price as opposing intell ones. yes, intell processors can be OCd to 4gb, BUT, you better have a prety good cooling system, otherwise yoru going to fry your processor, and lose time and money. AMD also comes with a handy program called AMD Overdrive, aka AOD, wich can be used to OC from your booted computer, without the hassle of using your bois. AMD overdrive also has a program wich manualy overclocks your system, so if your not very tech smart, you can just run that and get optimal settings for your system. AOD can be downloaded at www.amd.com (duh) some part of choosing a processor is also personal preference. my brother has always went with Intell, i have always used amd. my systems have been cheaper, and ran better. his can just be OC'd easier. the rest i leave up to you
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if your not a big OC person, i would go with AMD. Intel is better for overclocking. right off the bat you can turn up the multiplier, wich is locked on AMD, except in the Black edition AMD cores, wich are usualy not much more expensive. if you are an overclocker, and u wanted to go with amd, i would go with the AMD Athlon 6000+ x2 black edition. even though the black edition is a touch more expensive then other AMD processors, it runs about the same price as opposing intell ones. yes, intell processors can be OCd to 4gb, BUT, you better have a prety good cooling system, otherwise yoru going to fry your processor, and lose time and money. AMD also comes with a handy program called AMD Overdrive, aka AOD, wich can be used to OC from your booted computer, without the hassle of using your bois. AMD overdrive also has a program wich manualy overclocks your system, so if your not very tech smart, you can just run that and get optimal settings for your system. AOD can be downloaded at www.amd.com (duh) some part of choosing a processor is also personal preference. my brother has always went with Intell, i have always used amd. my systems have been cheaper, and ran better. his can just be OC'd easier. the rest i leave up to youcrazydude62

I was a hardcore AMD user, from my old AMD K6 233mhz, to my Athlon XP 2600+, to my Athlon 64 3500+, to my Athlon 64 X2 4400+ (which was overclocked to over 2.6ghz). You can still build a competent gaming rig using an Athlon X2, although they are aging. However, being that his question was whether or not to get a 3.0ghz AMD dual-core, or a 3ghz Intel Core 2 (45nm Wolfdale E8400 no less), there is no competition anymore. The only thing keeping those AMD chips still alive is their low price

I don't know how many people are really aware of this, but at this point, a 3ghz AMD dual-core is not even close to as fast as an Intel Core 2 running at 3ghz. The Core 2 architecture is so much newer and more efficient than the Athlon X2, that a better comparison would be a 3.0ghz AMD X2 versus a 2.4ghz Core 2 Duo. They will perform very closely to each other. You will see some games that are not very demanding on the CPU, where the graphics card you use will be the only thing capping your performance. However, more CPU-dependant games (like many of the newer titles, or real-time strategy games in general), will show you the difference between a decently fast CPU and a really fast one.

Throw in the fact that you can definitely get a great overclock out of the E8400 (I have one, and my overclock is mild, but had a noticeable impact on my performance)... and there is no competition right now.

The real question would be.. if you can afford to spend $160-170 on an E8400, maybe you should be looking at a quad-core AMD Phenom 2. That will give you a more comparable clock-for-clock performance to the Intel chip, and you will have a quad-core, which will be handy in a year or 2.

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#13 eddy96_1
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i hav the e8400 and yea its an incredible cpu
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#14 imprezawrx500
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intel is much faster than amd on a clock to clock basis. 2.4ghz core 2 is faster than a 3ghz athlon
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#15 marcthpro
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Yes that Very True ImprezawrX500 and It Also Depend of the L2 Cache / Architecutre even those 65nm E6600 Was better then Athelon X2 7750 Black Edition But The Phenom II X3 720 / X4 920 / 940 Black Edition are extmreley Good They can match with E8400 once overclocked and Even Q9650 for the 940 Black Edition a Phenom II 940 at 3.8Ghz is as good as a 4.0ghz Q9650 no joke :)
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#16 NSR34GTR
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intel all the way
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#17 Sporknife
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it's not really fair to compare them, cause amd costs like 2-3 times less than intel.

edit : i didnt bump it, dont blame me.

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#18 BLKR4330
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This thread is over 6 months old, I'm sure the TC made up his mind already.. Can someone lock this?

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#19 imprezawrx500
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why do people bump old threads?
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#20 broken_bass_bin
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what the..?

why is this here?

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#21 johnny27
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Intel stomps all over amd especially in the dual core department the amd 6000+ is no match for a E8400
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#22 storjohan_
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Got my E8400 stable at 4,3ghz 1,32 vcore. 35 degrees idle, 55 full load, no sweat.

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Got my E8400 stable at 4,3ghz 1,32 vcore. 35 degrees idle, 55 full load, no sweat.

storjohan_
what cooler have you got? I need something better to get my e8200 much above 3.12ghz
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Neither, E7400! [QUOTE="imprezawrx500"][QUOTE="storjohan_"]

Got my E8400 stable at 4,3ghz 1,32 vcore. 35 degrees idle, 55 full load, no sweat.

what cooler have you got? I need something better to get my e8200 much above 3.12ghz

lol you just got a low multiplier crippled cpu.
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[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]Neither, E7400! [QUOTE="imprezawrx500"][QUOTE="storjohan_"]

Got my E8400 stable at 4,3ghz 1,32 vcore. 35 degrees idle, 55 full load, no sweat.

what cooler have you got? I need something better to get my e8200 much above 3.12ghz

lol you just got a low multiplier crippled cpu.

I could easily go further, just want some better cooling first.
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Zalman 9700.

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#27 deactivated-57af49c27f4e8
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[QUOTE="swehunt"][QUOTE="KurganUK23"]

Can anyone give me a user tried opinion on the E8400 please?

KurganUK23

I can't give you a user tried oppinion but i can give you a summary of many other's thougths.

*It's Cool, OC way over 4ghz, and one of the fastest dualcore already at stock speeds.*

That last bit sounds good to me "and one of the fastest dualcore already at stock speeds", im not a big overclocker to be honest, only tried once but couldnt get my head around it enough so im looking for best power at stock.

you can overclock it to 3.6 with no voltage changes or anything. that's what i did. read the legion hardware guide for how to do that and a whole lot further if you want

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#28 covertgamer78
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E8400 owns. There is no need for quad core yet as the technology is not optimized in programs yet and get outperformed in games by good dual cores like the E8400 anyways.