AMD Athlon X2 7750 and; 7550 Review

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#1 Mitjastiskovski
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New dual-core CPU's from AMD that have been released. They are called Kuma and are based on K10 same microarchitecture as the Phenoms.

X2 7750 runs at 2.7Ghz and has 1 MB L2 cache and 2Mb of L3

X2 7550 runs at 2.5Ghz

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/12/15/amd-athlon-x2-7750-7550-cpus-review/1

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Another Review: http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/athlon7750/

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New dual-core CPU's from AMD that have been released. They are called Kuma and are based on K10 same microarchitecture as the Phenoms.

X2 7750 runs at 2.7Ghz and has 1 MB L2 cache and 2Mb of L3

X2 7550 runs at 2.5Ghz

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/12/15/amd-athlon-x2-7750-7550-cpus-review/1

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AMD so fail. Dual core is finished as a viable CPU now that i7 is here.

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#3 yoyo462001
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[QUOTE="Mitjastiskovski"]

New dual-core CPU's from AMD that have been released. They are called Kuma and are based on K10 same microarchitecture as the Phenoms.

X2 7750 runs at 2.7Ghz and has 1 MB L2 cache and 2Mb of L3

X2 7550 runs at 2.5Ghz

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/12/15/amd-athlon-x2-7750-7550-cpus-review/1

For some weird reason I can't insert a link:?

teddyrob

AMD so fail. Dual core is finished as a viable CPU now that i7 is here.

its definitely not, cheap PC's are hardly ever quad core and im guessing this is the market there going for. remember core i7 is not a mainstream cpu and is aimed at the enthusiast.
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#4 teddyrob
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[QUOTE="teddyrob"][QUOTE="Mitjastiskovski"]

New dual-core CPU's from AMD that have been released. They are called Kuma and are based on K10 same microarchitecture as the Phenoms.

X2 7750 runs at 2.7Ghz and has 1 MB L2 cache and 2Mb of L3

X2 7550 runs at 2.5Ghz

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/12/15/amd-athlon-x2-7750-7550-cpus-review/1

For some weird reason I can't insert a link:?

yoyo462001

AMD so fail. Dual core is finished as a viable CPU now that i7 is here.

its definitely not, cheap PC's are hardly ever quad core and im guessing this is the market there going for. remember core i7 is not a mainstream cpu and is aimed at the enthusiast.

Here is what the article says. These chips are meaningless and useless in a market satuated by loads of cheap dual cores.

The problem AMD is has is that every dual core it currently has on the market is incredibly inexpensive, because its premium Phenom quad core chips had to drop their prices to successfully compete. This has basically compressed the market underneath it meaning CPUs are very closely priced. Add into this these new Kuma 7000-series CPUs into an already compact market and the fact that AMD has royally screwed itself when it comes to naming products and giving them clock speeds: we've seen 6000+ at 3.1GHz and 3.0GHz, 5400+ at 2.6GHz and 2.7GHz for example. When you mix all of that together and you've got a nice soup of customer confusion.

Unless AMD drops a number of K8 CPUs now and replaces them with Kuma-based alternatives, it's going to have its CPUs compete with each other in
a sea of grey and it'll leave companies with excess stock one way or the other. Then what happens if Intel decides to cut its E5200 price?

E5200 overclocks much better on top of that. This is fail AMD fail.

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Final ThoughtsFor enthusiasts, AMD has finally done the best it can with its 65nm K10 core although we have to say it's too little too late as a K10 dual core would have been competitive 12 months ago. Even then though, the lack of overclocking headroom and higher power consumption would still turn today's cost concious power users towards Intel's 45nm alternatives. We'll delve in platform value and how overclocking affects the performance results later in the week.

While the Athlon X2 7700 series CPUs may not twist the nipples of our readers quite so much, for the general public who just want a cheap upgrade with great, well rounded performance, they're a decent heart to a great platform when combined with a 780G board and an ATI Radeon HD 4800 graphics card. What's more, the new Athlon X2 7750 Black Edition and 7550 CPUs appear to offer better price to performance over Intel's competitive offerings and they're certainly worth buying over the older K8 Athlon X2s.

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#6 Mitjastiskovski
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[QUOTE="yoyo462001"][QUOTE="teddyrob"]

AMD so fail. Dual core is finished as a viable CPU now that i7 is here.

teddyrob

its definitely not, cheap PC's are hardly ever quad core and im guessing this is the market there going for. remember core i7 is not a mainstream cpu and is aimed at the enthusiast.

Here is what the article says. These chips are meaningless and useless in a market satuated by loads of cheap dual cores.

The problem AMD is has is that every dual core it currently has on the market is incredibly inexpensive, because its premium Phenom quad core chips had to drop their prices to successfully compete. This has basically compressed the market underneath it meaning CPUs are very closely priced. Add into this these new Kuma 7000-series CPUs into an already compact market and the fact that AMD has royally screwed itself when it comes to naming products and giving them clock speeds: we've seen 6000+ at 3.1GHz and 3.0GHz, 5400+ at 2.6GHz and 2.7GHz for example. When you mix all of that together and you've got a nice soup of customer confusion.

Unless AMD drops a number of K8 CPUs now and replaces them with Kuma-based alternatives, it's going to have its CPUs compete with each other in a sea of grey and it'll leave companies with excess stock one way or the other. Then what happens if Intel decides to cut its E5200 price?

E5200 overclockers much better on top of that. This is fail AMD fail.

What ever Intel fanboy. The fact is the X2 7000 series perform better in games than the E5200 and are both the same price. Not everyone wants to overclock the **** out of our computers. Sure intel are better at overclocking but not everyone wants to overclock their computer to get that extra little bit of performence out of it.

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#7 yoyo462001
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[QUOTE="yoyo462001"][QUOTE="teddyrob"]

AMD so fail. Dual core is finished as a viable CPU now that i7 is here.

teddyrob

its definitely not, cheap PC's are hardly ever quad core and im guessing this is the market there going for. remember core i7 is not a mainstream cpu and is aimed at the enthusiast.

Here is what the article says. These chips are meaningless and useless in a market satuated by loads of cheap dual cores.

The problem AMD is has is that every dual core it currently has on the market is incredibly inexpensive, because its premium Phenom quad core chips had to drop their prices to successfully compete. This has basically compressed the market underneath it meaning CPUs are very closely priced. Add into this these new Kuma 7000-series CPUs into an already compact market and the fact that AMD has royally screwed itself when it comes to naming products and giving them clock speeds: we've seen 6000+ at 3.1GHz and 3.0GHz, 5400+ at 2.6GHz and 2.7GHz for example. When you mix all of that together and you've got a nice soup of customer confusion.

Unless AMD drops a number of K8 CPUs now and replaces them with Kuma-based alternatives, it's going to have its CPUs compete with each other in a sea of grey and it'll leave companies with excess stock one way or the other. Then what happens if Intel decides to cut its E5200 price?

E5200 overclockers much better on top of that. This is fail AMD fail.

its not really AMD Fail, (i guess its better than releasing nothing), my point earlier was that Dual cores are still 'viable CPUs', yes the market is pretty saturated right now, but it cant and shouldnt stop Intel/AMD releasing new dual cores for that segment of the market.
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#8 teddyrob
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[QUOTE="teddyrob"][QUOTE="yoyo462001"]its definitely not, cheap PC's are hardly ever quad core and im guessing this is the market there going for. remember core i7 is not a mainstream cpu and is aimed at the enthusiast.Mitjastiskovski

Here is what the article says. These chips are meaningless and useless in a market satuated by loads of cheap dual cores.

The problem AMD is has is that every dual core it currently has on the market is incredibly inexpensive, because its premium Phenom quad core chips had to drop their prices to successfully compete. This has basically compressed the market underneath it meaning CPUs are very closely priced. Add into this these new Kuma 7000-series CPUs into an already compact market and the fact that AMD has royally screwed itself when it comes to naming products and giving them clock speeds: we've seen 6000+ at 3.1GHz and 3.0GHz, 5400+ at 2.6GHz and 2.7GHz for example. When you mix all of that together and you've got a nice soup of customer confusion.

Unless AMD drops a number of K8 CPUs now and replaces them with Kuma-based alternatives, it's going to have its CPUs compete with each other in
a sea of grey and it'll leave companies with excess stock one way or the other. Then what happens if Intel decides to cut its E5200 price?

E5200 overclockers much better on top of that. This is fail AMD fail.

What ever Intel fanboy. The fact is the X2 7000 series perform better in games than the E5200 and are both the same price. Not everyone wants to overclock the **** out of our computers. Sure intel are better at overclocking but not everyone wants to overclock their computer to get that extra little bit of performence out of it.

That is from the article are they fanboys ? no. The dual core market is over satuated with cheap dual cores. Intel will see this reduces the prices of the E5200 and still hold the higher and middle markets. It makes no sense to come out with another set of dual cores to confuse the public and games no one is going to pair that CPU with a GTX280 like they did in the article.

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#9 Mitjastiskovski
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[QUOTE="Mitjastiskovski"][QUOTE="teddyrob"]

Here is what the article says. These chips are meaningless and useless in a market satuated by loads of cheap dual cores.

The problem AMD is has is that every dual core it currently has on the market is incredibly inexpensive, because its premium Phenom quad core chips had to drop their prices to successfully compete. This has basically compressed the market underneath it meaning CPUs are very closely priced. Add into this these new Kuma 7000-series CPUs into an already compact market and the fact that AMD has royally screwed itself when it comes to naming products and giving them clock speeds: we've seen 6000+ at 3.1GHz and 3.0GHz, 5400+ at 2.6GHz and 2.7GHz for example. When you mix all of that together and you've got a nice soup of customer confusion.

Unless AMD drops a number of K8 CPUs now and replaces them with Kuma-based alternatives, it's going to have its CPUs compete with each other in
a sea of grey and it'll leave companies with excess stock one way or the other. Then what happens if Intel decides to cut its E5200 price?

E5200 overclockers much better on top of that. This is fail AMD fail.

teddyrob

What ever Intel fanboy. The fact is the X2 7000 series perform better in games than the E5200 and are both the same price. Not everyone wants to overclock the **** out of our computers. Sure intel are better at overclocking but not everyone wants to overclock their computer to get that extra little bit of performence out of it.

That is from the article are they fanboys ? no. The dual core market is over satuated with cheap dual cores. Intel will see this reduces the prices of the E5200 and still hold the higher and middle markets. It makes no sense to come out with another set of dual cores to confuse the public and games no one is going to pair that CPU with a GTX280 like they did in the article.

I didn't see anywhere in the article saying "This is Fail AMD Fail". And so what in they introducted new dual-cores CPU', maybe they will stop selling some of the old K8 dual-cores and these new ones are for replacement.

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The CPU market is so confusing now...

Thank god I just buy a CPU anf forget about it for a year or two. Thankfully the GPU market is pretty organized.

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#11 teddyrob
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I didn't see anywhere in the article saying "This is Fail AMD Fail". And so what in they introducted new dual-cores CPU', maybe they will stop selling some of the old K8 dual-cores and these new ones are for replacement. Mitjastiskovski

You wouldn't see that but that is what they are thinking and that is what they say when I put what they say in italics. If you think this is a success then go ahead go buy one but I cannot see anyone here recommending those CPU to anyone.

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[QUOTE="Mitjastiskovski"]I didn't see anywhere in the article saying "This is Fail AMD Fail". And so what in they introducted new dual-cores CPU', maybe they will stop selling some of the old K8 dual-cores and these new ones are for replacement. teddyrob

You wouldn't see that but that is what they are thinking and that is what they say when I put what they say in italics. If you think this is a success then go ahead go buy one but I cannot see anyone here recommending those CPU to anyone.

Ye right :roll:

Plus the 7000 series is a good upgrade for the current AM2 users that cannot get a phenom CPU.

And for other people saying that it is confusing since there are so many CPU's out there. Not really, you do some research and you know exacly which CPU does what and if they are any good or not. It's called research, you have the internet so why not do some research and see what is what.

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[QUOTE="Mitjastiskovski"][QUOTE="teddyrob"]

Here is what the article says. These chips are meaningless and useless in a market satuated by loads of cheap dual cores.

The problem AMD is has is that every dual core it currently has on the market is incredibly inexpensive, because its premium Phenom quad core chips had to drop their prices to successfully compete. This has basically compressed the market underneath it meaning CPUs are very closely priced. Add into this these new Kuma 7000-series CPUs into an already compact market and the fact that AMD has royally screwed itself when it comes to naming products and giving them clock speeds: we've seen 6000+ at 3.1GHz and 3.0GHz, 5400+ at 2.6GHz and 2.7GHz for example. When you mix all of that together and you've got a nice soup of customer confusion.

Unless AMD drops a number of K8 CPUs now and replaces them with Kuma-based alternatives, it's going to have its CPUs compete with each other in
a sea of grey and it'll leave companies with excess stock one way or the other. Then what happens if Intel decides to cut its E5200 price?

E5200 overclockers much better on top of that. This is fail AMD fail.

teddyrob

What ever Intel fanboy. The fact is the X2 7000 series perform better in games than the E5200 and are both the same price. Not everyone wants to overclock the **** out of our computers. Sure intel are better at overclocking but not everyone wants to overclock their computer to get that extra little bit of performence out of it.

That is from the article are they fanboys ? no. The dual core market is over satuated with cheap dual cores. Intel will see this reduces the prices of the E5200 and still hold the higher and middle markets. It makes no sense to come out with another set of dual cores to confuse the public and games no one is going to pair that CPU with a GTX280 like they did in the article.

Teddyrob.... You are my hero.... he is right why settle for these dual core cpus.... Even if your on a budget the Phenomx4 are not that expensive, and I hate to say it but if your worried about money there is no reason to be in pc gaming... time to find a new hobby
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And for other people saying that it is confusing since there are so many CPU's out there. Not really, you do some research and you know exacly which CPU does what and if they are any good or not. It's called research, you have the internet so why not do some research and see what is what.

Mitjastiskovski

I don't need to do further research on these CPUs, your article has shown me that they are absolutely rubbish and not worth any more of my time.

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#15 Mitjastiskovski
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[QUOTE="Mitjastiskovski"]And for other people saying that it is confusing since there are so many CPU's out there. Not really, you do some research and you know exacly which CPU does what and if they are any good or not. It's called research, you have the internet so why not do some research and see what is what.

teddyrob

I don't need to do further research on these CPUs, your article has shown me that they are absolutely rubbish and not worth any more of my time.

Srry but you are completly missing the point. These two CPU have never been targetted to be the best dual core CPU's. These CPU's are meant to be for the budget market and for the current price they are selling, they are one of the best dual-core CPU's you can buy and definitely the best dual core CPU from AMD.

You need to consider the price/performence before you comment and clearly you haven't

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Nobody is going to pair that with a gtx 280? Really? Maybe a few people who realize that the video card really is much more important than the cpu for most games will do just that. I personally have no need of this cpu, but I think over the next 6 months or so its purpose will be more clear as the k8-based x2's clear out of the market.
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#17 hartsickdiscipl
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You have some of the worst posts I've ever seen. All you seem to do is go around bashing dual-core processors while you trumpet the virtues of the quad-core for gaming, an area in which they aren't even that good. There are less than 5 games on the market that are optimized for quad-cores. My old rig which featured an athlon x2 4400 toledo oc'd to 2.6ghz on a socket 939 nforce 4 board would run just a step behind your current rig in most games (33 fps in crysis on all high detail with an 8800gts 512), let alone anybody who has a wolfdale core 2 duo over 3ghz. Hell, even one of these new K10-based x2's overclocked a little bit will dust your quad in most games right now. I think you spend alot of time trying to convince yourself that you invested wisely in your quad, primarily doing so by bashing others that invested less to get better gaming performance. This new AMD cpu isn't a very noteworthy release, but neither are any of your posts.
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i would never see myself buying this processer today it's not a bad increase but it is meanless when intel is far into the lead i speed with their i7's and everyone seems to be going quad core