amd capitalizes on missing kepler.. hd 7000 series more pricing!

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#1 ionusX
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i have more pricing for the hd 7000 series it is as follows:

http://www.techpowerup.com/156312/AMD-Radeon-HD-7000-Series-Single-GPU-Graphics-Card-Price-Points-Surface.html

hd 7870 $299

hd 7850 $199

hd 7770 ?? ($189??)

hd 7670 $179

hd 7650 $119

and now for your entertainment a lovely gem i pulled out of drawer for you all:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lazEQOHlmhU

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#2 MonsieurX
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The 7870 better outperform the 6950 and the 560 ti...
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The 7870 better outperform the 6950 and the 560 ti...MonsieurX
Hell, I would say the same about the 7850...
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Pretty expensive for mid-range parts IMO :?

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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]The 7870 better outperform the 6950 and the 560 ti...superclocked
Hell, I would say the same about the 7850...

I guess the 7850 will be on par with those cards
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Come on benchies.:D

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Are the cards below 79xx based on the new design? I was under the impression that they would pretty much be a die shrink of the current 6xxx cards... I could easily be wrong though... I wouldn't mind if the 7850 was a die shrunken 6950.

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Are the cards below 79xx based on the new design? I was under the impression that they would pretty much be a die shrink of the current 6xxx cards... I could easily be wrong though... I wouldn't mind if the 7850 was a die shrunken 6950.

ryguy64

I heard this too.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-28nm-Radeon-HD-7000-GPUs-to-Be-Announced-on-December-5-Report-237081.shtml

Seems there will be several architectures.

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#9 ionusX
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Are the cards below 79xx based on the new design? I was under the impression that they would pretty much be a die shrink of the current 6xxx cards... I could easily be wrong though... I wouldn't mind if the 7850 was a die shrunken 6950.

ryguy64

all new arch. until you hit the hd 7500 series at which point its rebadges until the 7200 seires which is all trinity apu's however their are trinity apu's buried in the lineup up to the hd 7630

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#10 Hexagon_777
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Please be a straight $ to £ conversion when you come out in the UK. :cry:

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#11 ionusX
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Please be a straight $ to £ conversion when you come out in the UK. :cry:

Hexagon_777

whats ur current gpu??

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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]Please be a straight $ to £ conversion when you come out in the UK. :cry:ionusX
whats ur current gpu??

Don't have one yet as I have yet to build the PC. I intended to get a HD 6970 but with these cards coming out soon...

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Please be a straight $ to £ conversion when you come out in the UK. :cry:

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Are you saying you wish you get to pay 50% more for your gfx card than the Americans? What's up with that?

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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

Please be a straight $ to £ conversion when you come out in the UK. :cry:

gamerns

Are you saying you wish you get to pay 50% more for your gfx card than the Americans? What's up with that?

No, what he's saying is that "X Card" for dollars in the States is $299 and a straight conversion to EUR would be roughly $223.

What seems to generally happen is that "X Card" in the states is $299 and the cost for the same "X Card" in EUR is $299. Convert the 299 EUR to dollars and you roughly get $401 in the States. In the end, they pay more for the same hardware we get.

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[QUOTE="gamerns"]

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

Please be a straight $ to £ conversion when you come out in the UK. :cry:

neatfeatguy

Are you saying you wish you get to pay 50% more for your gfx card than the Americans? What's up with that?

No, what he's saying is that "X Card" for dollars in the States is $299 and a straight conversion to EUR would be roughly $223.

What seems to generally happen is that "X Card" in the states is $299 and the cost for the same "X Card" in EUR is $299. Convert the 299 EUR to dollars and you roughly get $401 in the States. In the end, they pay more for the same hardware we get.

Thanks for clearing that up. It did seem a little silly.:D

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i have more pricing for the hd 7000 series it is as follows:

http://www.techpowerup.com/156312/AMD-Radeon-HD-7000-Series-Single-GPU-Graphics-Card-Price-Points-Surface.html

hd 7870 $299

hd 7850 $199

hd 7770 ?? ($189??)

hd 7670 $179

hd 7650 $119

and now for your entertainment a lovely gem i pulled out of drawer for you all:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lazEQOHlmhU

ionusX

pricing doesnt make sense unless the 7670 is stronger than the 6850 and the 6870, which I don't think is possible. But heck if its a new architecture then anything is possible.

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so these will probably be out around january, february next year. I'm hoping for a significant increase in a 7990 over the 5970 i'm running now. which i plan to offload to craigslist, once these hit the streets.

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#18 ionusX
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so these will probably be out around january, february next year. I'm hoping for a significant increase in a 7990 over the 5970 i'm running now. which i plan to offload to craigslist, once these hit the streets.

Dom_Hawk_basic

by and large they expect the 7970 to kick the 5970's tail so hard.. itd be like ----

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[QUOTE="ionusX"]

i have more pricing for the hd 7000 series it is as follows:

http://www.techpowerup.com/156312/AMD-Radeon-HD-7000-Series-Single-GPU-Graphics-Card-Price-Points-Surface.html

hd 7870 $299

hd 7850 $199

hd 7770 ?? ($189??)

hd 7670 $179

hd 7650 $119

and now for your entertainment a lovely gem i pulled out of drawer for you all:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lazEQOHlmhU

blaznwiipspman1

pricing doesnt make sense unless the 7670 is stronger than the 6850 and the 6870, which I don't think is possible. But heck if its a new architecture then anything is possible.

Going off the rumored specs, it looks like the 7870 and 7850 will be competitors to the 6970 and 6950 :?

Pretty crazy stuff considering it's sub-$200 pricetag.

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[QUOTE="ionusX"]

[QUOTE="Dom_Hawk_basic"]

so these will probably be out around january, february next year. I'm hoping for a significant increase in a 7990 over the 5970 i'm running now. which i plan to offload to craigslist, once these hit the streets.

by and large they expect the 7970 to kick the 5970's tail so hard.. itd be like ----

with it being an older card, do you think that they would do comparison benches when they launch between say the 5xxx, 6xxx and 7xxx series?
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#21 ionusX
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[QUOTE="ionusX"]

[QUOTE="Dom_Hawk_basic"]

so these will probably be out around january, february next year. I'm hoping for a significant increase in a 7990 over the 5970 i'm running now. which i plan to offload to craigslist, once these hit the streets.

Dom_Hawk_basic

by and large they expect the 7970 to kick the 5970's tail so hard.. itd be like ----

with it being an older card, do you think that they would do comparison benches when they launch between say the 5xxx, 6xxx and 7xxx series?

doubtful unless it was a full spectrum review.. watch for one form hexus or techpowerup or hardocp

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[QUOTE="ionusX"]

[QUOTE="Dom_Hawk_basic"][QUOTE="ionusX"] by and large they expect the 7970 to kick the 5970's tail so hard.. itd be like ----

with it being an older card, do you think that they would do comparison benches when they launch between say the 5xxx, 6xxx and 7xxx series?

doubtful unless it was a full spectrum review.. watch for one form hexus or techpowerup or hardocp

any idea when Nvidia might follow up with Kepler? From what i've been reading about GPUs as of late, that the PCI-E 3.0 would be unusd as far as bandwidth is concened and that the cards could run pretty much without bottlnecks on the PCI-E 2.0 setup. Although i've thought about upgrading my I7 920 to a 990X to ensure i don't have any bottlenecking issues. Or do you think that would be a wast of cash?
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[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

[QUOTE="ionusX"]

i have more pricing for the hd 7000 series it is as follows:

http://www.techpowerup.com/156312/AMD-Radeon-HD-7000-Series-Single-GPU-Graphics-Card-Price-Points-Surface.html

hd 7870 $299

hd 7850 $199

hd 7770 ?? ($189??)

hd 7670 $179

hd 7650 $119

and now for your entertainment a lovely gem i pulled out of drawer for you all:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lazEQOHlmhU

GS550L

pricing doesnt make sense unless the 7670 is stronger than the 6850 and the 6870, which I don't think is possible. But heck if its a new architecture then anything is possible.

Going off the rumored specs, it looks like the 7870 and 7850 will be competitors to the 6970 and 6950 :?

Pretty crazy stuff considering it's sub-$200 pricetag.

so you're saying the 7670 will be competitive with the 6850, and the 7770 competitive with the 6870?

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[QUOTE="Dom_Hawk_basic"]

so these will probably be out around january, february next year. I'm hoping for a significant increase in a 7990 over the 5970 i'm running now. which i plan to offload to craigslist, once these hit the streets.

ionusX

by and large they expect the 7970 to kick the 5970's tail so hard.. itd be like ----

It's going to hurt, I know that for a fact, lol.

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[QUOTE="ionusX"]

[QUOTE="Dom_Hawk_basic"] with it being an older card, do you think that they would do comparison benches when they launch between say the 5xxx, 6xxx and 7xxx series?Dom_Hawk_basic

doubtful unless it was a full spectrum review.. watch for one form hexus or techpowerup or hardocp

any idea when Nvidia might follow up with Kepler? From what i've been reading about GPUs as of late, that the PCI-E 3.0 would be unusd as far as bandwidth is concened and that the cards could run pretty much without bottlnecks on the PCI-E 2.0 setup. Although i've thought about upgrading my I7 920 to a 990X to ensure i don't have any bottlenecking issues. Or do you think that would be a wast of cash?

Yes.

Just get an aftermarket cooler and OC the crap out of your 920.

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[QUOTE="neatfeatguy"]

[QUOTE="gamerns"]

Are you saying you wish you get to pay 50% more for your gfx card than the Americans? What's up with that?

gamerns

No, what he's saying is that "X Card" for dollars in the States is $299 and a straight conversion to EUR would be roughly $223.

What seems to generally happen is that "X Card" in the states is $299 and the cost for the same "X Card" in EUR is $299. Convert the 299 EUR to dollars and you roughly get $401 in the States. In the end, they pay more for the same hardware we get.

Thanks for clearing that up. It did seem a little silly.:D

I have no idea how you came to that conclusion. :P

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[QUOTE="gamerns"]

[QUOTE="neatfeatguy"]

No, what he's saying is that "X Card" for dollars in the States is $299 and a straight conversion to EUR would be roughly $223.

What seems to generally happen is that "X Card" in the states is $299 and the cost for the same "X Card" in EUR is $299. Convert the 299 EUR to dollars and you roughly get $401 in the States. In the end, they pay more for the same hardware we get.

Hexagon_777

Thanks for clearing that up. It did seem a little silly.:D

I have no idea how you came to that conclusion. :P

That's the conculsion I came to also. It was worded pretty ambiguously.

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Have they confirmed they are keeping the same number alignments regarding the class of the card for this series?

Example 7870 replaces 6870? Or have they reverted back to the 7870 being flagship like the 5870? AMD is pretty confusing the way they market the product.

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The 7870 better outperform the 6950 and the 560 ti...MonsieurX

I'd actually prefer if the 7850 did that...

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i have more pricing for the hd 7000 series it is as follows:

http://www.techpowerup.com/156312/AMD-Radeon-HD-7000-Series-Single-GPU-Graphics-Card-Price-Points-Surface.html

hd 7870 $299

hd 7850 $199

hd 7770 ?? ($189??)

hd 7670 $179

hd 7650 $119

and now for your entertainment a lovely gem i pulled out of drawer for you all:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lazEQOHlmhU

ionusX

Nice info!

And nice clip of Power Rangers, I used to watch it when I was a kid...great memories.

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[QUOTE="ionusX"]

i have more pricing for the hd 7000 series it is as follows:

http://www.techpowerup.com/156312/AMD-Radeon-HD-7000-Series-Single-GPU-Graphics-Card-Price-Points-Surface.html

hd 7870 $299

hd 7850 $199

hd 7770 ?? ($189??)

hd 7670 $179

hd 7650 $119

and now for your entertainment a lovely gem i pulled out of drawer for you all:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lazEQOHlmhU

Xtasy26

Nice info!

And nice clip of Power Rangers, I used to watch it when I was a kid...great memories.

I used to watch it all the time as a young one as well, lol.

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i have more pricing for the hd 7000 series it is as follows:

http://www.techpowerup.com/156312/AMD-Radeon-HD-7000-Series-Single-GPU-Graphics-Card-Price-Points-Surface.html

hd 7870 $299

hd 7850 $199

hd 7770 ?? ($189??)

hd 7670 $179

hd 7650 $119

and now for your entertainment a lovely gem i pulled out of drawer for you all:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lazEQOHlmhU

ionusX
Hmm. Why would anybody want to get a 7670 when a 7850 is only $20 more?
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[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="ionusX"]

i have more pricing for the hd 7000 series it is as follows:

http://www.techpowerup.com/156312/AMD-Radeon-HD-7000-Series-Single-GPU-Graphics-Card-Price-Points-Surface.html

hd 7870 $299

hd 7850 $199

hd 7770 ?? ($189??)

hd 7670 $179

hd 7650 $119

and now for your entertainment a lovely gem i pulled out of drawer for you all:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lazEQOHlmhU

mitu123

Nice info!

And nice clip of Power Rangers, I used to watch it when I was a kid...great memories.

I used to watch it all the time as a young one as well, lol.

Yeah I used to come home from school and watch it on Fox Kids. I don't think they have Fox Kids anymore.

I think my favorite ranger was the Red Ranger and the White Ranger (who used to be the Green ranger, I can't believe I remember that :P).

The good old 90's....

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Are these the rebrand that will be out this month ?

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[QUOTE="ionusX"]

i have more pricing for the hd 7000 series it is as follows:

http://www.techpowerup.com/156312/AMD-Radeon-HD-7000-Series-Single-GPU-Graphics-Card-Price-Points-Surface.html

hd 7870 $299

hd 7850 $199

hd 7770 ?? ($189??)

hd 7670 $179

hd 7650 $119

and now for your entertainment a lovely gem i pulled out of drawer for you all:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lazEQOHlmhU

red12355
Hmm. Why would anybody want to get a 7670 when a 7850 is only $20 more?

How much difference in power can there really be with these 10$ intervals? And why does the 7870 suddenly jump up 100$?
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I have hunch that AMD will use two architectures that span across the 7000 series. I thought what they did with 6800/6900 series was very clever.

The 6800 series had a lot of the extra compute power removded, such as double floating point and some other features. They made them primarily gaming cards and stripped out the hardware they didn't need to make it a gaming card. They were able to cut a good chunk of power and transistors from the HD 5000 series and keep the performance.

Then, they have the HD 6900 which is pushing the limits and trying to be as much of a compute processor as it is a gaming processor. It think AMD should adopt this strategy for the next series as well.

AMD should keep their sweet spot GPUs using the VLIW5 architecture, it's tried and true and scalable, primarily for gaming. Then they should make their higher end stuff the GCN architecture. Enthusiast gaming performance as well as robust compute features

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I have hunch that AMD will use two architectures that span across the 7000 series. I thought what they did with 6800/6900 series was very clever.

The 6800 series had a lot of the extra compute power removded, such as double floating point and some other features. They made them primarily gaming cards and stripped out the hardware they didn't need to make it a gaming card. They were able to cut a good chunk of power and transistors from the HD 5000 series and keep the performance.

Then, they have the HD 6900 which is pushing the limits and trying to be as much of a compute processor as it is a gaming processor. It think AMD should adopt this strategy for the next series as well.

AMD should keep their sweet spot GPUs using the VLIW5 architecture, it's tried and true and scalable, primarily for gaming. Then they should make their higher end stuff the GCN architecture. Enthusiast gaming performance as well as robust compute features

Marfoo

Tahiti, Pitcairn and another ASIC, Cape Verde I think, are all GCN. Lowend should be 40nm rebrands until 28nm pricing goes down and TSMC is running at full capacity. Even then a 28nm lowend, under 100mm2, may not happen because of the 64bit bus.

Edit- No one posted pictures yet of Tahiti? 384bit AMD goodness.

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New rumors around the 7970. The german 3DCenter are estimating some big numbers for the new flagship card. Over 2000 stream processors and 4,5 billion transistors to highlight the numbers.  Source: sweclockers.com and originally 3dcenter.org