amd finally lists the 6700's actual spec's, not to far off, just as dangerous

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#1 ionusX
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the previous posts apparently were fabrications. but truth be told they arent far off.

in clocks the hd 6770 and 6750 were spot on int he older sldies int hat they match a 5850 and 5870

but they sit jsut below the two

the 6750 while ahving the same clocks as the 5850 has fewer shaders and fewer texture units than the 5850

that being said it will still easily outpace the 5830 and rightfully take the gtx460 768mb to school for gpu's 101 :P

the 6770 again wont be AS good as the 5870 as it have fewer shaders, but ahs a higher core clock speed and the same essentially the same stats as a 5870 everywhere else.

and as expected the 6750 OWNS the 5850's power consumption by a good 37 watts at maximum, the 6770 further makes this point clear by using 42 watts less running at full tilt.

id expect the hd 6750 to match the asus gtx 465 with it unlocked using the asus unlocking tool. while the 6770 will easily match wits with the ACTUAL gtx 470 :P

in short.. gtx 460 is about to get dusted.. HARD

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=26611

(fudzilla, kitguru, hartware, hardocp, expreview, all report the same thing feel free to look em up for additional details)

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#2 davi21a
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Damit, i really wanted the 6770 woop the 5870 lol... but atleast its close.
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#3 Espada12
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Did they show the 6870? (too lazy to look :P)

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the previous posts apparently were fabrications. but truth be told they arent far off.

in clocks the hd 6770 and 6750 were spot on int he older sldies int hat they match a 5850 and 5870

but they sit jsut below the two

the 6750 while ahving the same clocks as the 5850 has fewer shaders and fewer texture units than the 5850

that being said it will still easily outpace the 5830 and rightfully take the gtx460 768mb to school for gpu's 101 :P

the 6770 again wont be AS good as the 5870 as it have fewer shaders, but ahs a higher core clock speed and the same essentially the same stats as a 5870 everywhere else.

and as expected the 6750 OWNS the 5850's power consumption by a good 37 watts at maximum, the 6770 further makes this point clear by using 42 watts less running at full tilt.

id expect the hd 6750 to match the asus gtx 465 with it unlocked using the asus unlocking tool. while the 6770 will easily match wits with the ACTUAL gtx 470 :P

in short.. gtx 460 is about to get dusted.. HARD

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=26611

(fudzilla, kitguru, hartware, hardocp, expreview, all report the same thing feel free to look em up for additional details)

ionusX

thats why i haven't bothered even buying two gtx 460's :p i can't wait to see benches for the 6870 because if they are truly good performers then ill stay with ati this round :)

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#5 ionusX
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Did they show the 6870? (too lazy to look :P)

Espada12

negative.. but expect it to still be (mostly) accurate.

in short a beast with a few 16 hundred shaders :P (not clock, shader count)

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#6 NVIDIATI
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For the lazy:

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Hmm in a few months we are building my GF a new gaming pc, and we were gonna throw in an hd5870, but If we can get her pretty much the same performance out of a hd6770 as a 5870 for a lot lower price, then that is the route we are gonna go..

Lets not forget Drivers, Drivers could improve the already improved performance of the hd6770, I mean they did it with the hd5 series, So with a good driver release, The hd6770 could actually perform a hair better than the hd5870, while being more efficient!

I think that the hd6770 would be the one to get here, IDK what do you think IONUSX?

Also will the hd6770 perform better with dx11 than the hd5870?

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#8 ionusX
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id say you might see it happen escpecially as the eyar drags on and the fermi 1.5 release inches closer.

id say itd be a safe bet two call the 6770 eventually an unintended hd 5870 clone.

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#9 Lach0121
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id say you might see it happen escpecially as the eyar drags on and the fermi 1.5 release inches closer.

id say itd be a safe bet two call the 6770 eventually an unintended hd 5870 clone.

ionusX

Cool so its pretty much that close to the hd5870 that is good, Do you think the hd6770 would have better dx11 performance than the hd5870?

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So when are these cards gonna be available on Newegg.com for example? :P

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#11 ionusX
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So when are these cards gonna be available on Newegg.com for example? :P

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2nd week in october sound cool?

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#12 UltimateGamer95
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[QUOTE="UltimateGamer95"]

So when are these cards gonna be available on Newegg.com for example? :P

ionusX

2nd week in october sound cool?

Yeah that's sooner than I expected sounds awesome! :D
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#13 wklzip
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Looks good. :)
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#14 Lach0121
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Sry don't mean to repeat, but has there been any comparisons on tesselation or dx11 performance between the 6770 and the 5870?

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#15 ionusX
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Sry don't mean to repeat, but has there been any comparisons on tesselation or dx11 performance between the 6770 and the 5870?

Lach0121

negative.. the 6770 has yet to be tested at all. only the 6870 has been test (vs a 5970 and gtx 480) and the hd 6350 has been tested in 3d mark vanatge vs a 5450

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#16 Lach0121
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[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

Sry don't mean to repeat, but has there been any comparisons on tesselation or dx11 performance between the 6770 and the 5870?

ionusX

negative.. the 6770 has yet to be tested at all. only the 6870 has been test (vs a 5970 and gtx 480) and the hd 6350 has been tested in 3d mark vanatge vs a 5450

Really how well did the 6870 do? thats the one I am thinking of upgrading to in my pc. that or the 6850 if the 6870 is longer than 10.6 inches long.

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#17 ionusX
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[QUOTE="ionusX"]

[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

Sry don't mean to repeat, but has there been any comparisons on tesselation or dx11 performance between the 6770 and the 5870?

Lach0121

negative.. the 6770 has yet to be tested at all. only the 6870 has been test (vs a 5970 and gtx 480) and the hd 6350 has been tested in 3d mark vanatge vs a 5450

Really how well did the 6870 do? thats the one I am thinking of upgrading to in my pc. that or the 6850 if the 6870 is longer than 10.6 inches long.

the 6870 is the same size as a 5870 meybe a hair longer

it will match dual gtx 460's nicely and does much better with aa on than off (based on crysis warhead, unigine)

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#18 wklzip
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[QUOTE="ionusX"]

[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

Sry don't mean to repeat, but has there been any comparisons on tesselation or dx11 performance between the 6770 and the 5870?

Lach0121

negative.. the 6770 has yet to be tested at all. only the 6870 has been test (vs a 5970 and gtx 480) and the hd 6350 has been tested in 3d mark vanatge vs a 5450

Really how well did the 6870 do? thats the one I am thinking of upgrading to in my pc. that or the 6850 if the 6870 is longer than 10.6 inches long.

HD6800 Cayman benchies leaked

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#19 jedikevin2
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Numbers looking crazy odd.

6770 by the picture information is looking to be somewhere between a 5850 and 5870 with optimized power contraints.

6750 seems to be somewhere between a 5770 and a 5850 but the power contraints on somewhere in the middle as well. Gonna be really interesting how the speeds of these cards come out in the end. Seems they taking a nvidia aspect of mitmatching core clock, shaders, and memory bandwidth with good performance increases? Def waiting to see how these bad boys go and def what the price ranges will be. Kinda feel like the market is redicoulous saturated with graphics cards right now. So many variations, so many price scales, performance to price/older gen cards. Now waits to see the these will do.

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#20 Lach0121
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[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

[QUOTE="ionusX"]

negative.. the 6770 has yet to be tested at all. only the 6870 has been test (vs a 5970 and gtx 480) and the hd 6350 has been tested in 3d mark vanatge vs a 5450

wklzip

Really how well did the 6870 do? thats the one I am thinking of upgrading to in my pc. that or the 6850 if the 6870 is longer than 10.6 inches long.

HD6800 Cayman benchies leaked

still needs to be under 10.7 inches long, for it to even fit in my case. Do you think they will release a version of it that is under that?

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#21 millerlight89
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Looks excellent. Though I am waiting on the 6870 or maybe the dual cards. Can not wait!
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#22 kaitanuvax
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HD 6750 = GTX 460 1 GB

If the 6750 only requires one power connector, which it looks more and more like it is going to be, and costs about $180-200, it will be by god the best mainstream GPU ever to date.

HD 6770 = GTX 470

HD 6850 =?? GTX 480

HD 6870 =?? HD 5970

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#23 wklzip
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[QUOTE="wklzip"]

[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

Really how well did the 6870 do? thats the one I am thinking of upgrading to in my pc. that or the 6850 if the 6870 is longer than 10.6 inches long.

Lach0121

HD6800 Cayman benchies leaked

still needs to be under 10.7 inches long, for it to even fit in my case. Do you think they will release a version of it that is under that?

Possibly, i believe the hd6800 series should be launching in november or december so there is still time to look upon that.
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#24 Roggirek
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Any theories on the 6770's pricepoint? ~$250?
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#25 ionusX
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Any theories on the 6770's pricepoint? ~$250?Roggirek

given that the intended target for tyhe card is the gtx 460 1gb id say its probably safe to bet around its current prices.

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#26 davi21a
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HD 6750 = GTX 460 1 GB

If the 6750 only requires one power connector, which it looks more and more like it is going to be, and costs about $180-200, it will be by god the best mainstream GPU ever to date.

HD 6770 = GTX 470

HD 6850 =?? GTX 480

HD 6870 =?? HD 5970

kaitanuvax

Think about it, if 2 6770s can be as powerful as a 5970, then you got yourself a 5970 by crossfiring 2 6770s which would cost about 500 bux, not bad considering they cost about 600-800 bux right now.

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#27 Empirefrtw
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Yeah the crossfire Idea sounds good but I have a feeling that the 5970 will drop once these cards come out and hopefully the 5870 too so I can get another for crossfire.

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#28 davi21a
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Yeah, i was gonna add another 5770 for crossfire which is about the same performance as a 5870 in most games but, i got to thinking i should just buy a 6770, which is about $100 more but, it gives me the option to add another 6770 and be as powerful as a 5970 :)

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#29 ionusX
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Yeah the crossfire Idea sounds good but I have a feeling that the 5970 will drop once these cards come out and hopefully the 5870 too so I can get another for crossfire.

Empirefrtw

a cheaper 5800 series puts a smile on mah face :D

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#30 OgreB
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Is the 6870 a dual card like the 5970 ? I hope not... I like my 5970 it really cruises in Metro and Crysis etc but some game still don't like Crossfire/SLI set ups. I'd give up some HP for more widespread game support.. Anybody want to buy a 5970 ?
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#31 davi21a
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Is the 6870 a dual card like the 5970 ? I hope not... I like my 5970 it really cruises in Metro and Crysis etc but some game still don't like Crossfire/SLI set ups. I'd give up some HP for more widespread game support.. Anybody want to buy a 5970 ?OgreB

Are you askin if you want someone to buy your 5970?

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#32 ionusX
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Is the 6870 a dual card like the 5970 ? I hope not... I like my 5970 it really cruises in Metro and Crysis etc but some game still don't like Crossfire/SLI set ups. I'd give up some HP for more widespread game support.. Anybody want to buy a 5970 ?OgreB

the 6870 is a single core card and based on the cayman XT architecture.

while the hd 6900 series uses the vancouver architecture and is/are dual gpu(s).

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#33 OgreB
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I'll wait and wait for benchies...and if it works better then the 5870 I'll get it. ( Then sell my 5970) Of course if they are pushing the 6900 ..they will work on drivers. Crossfire is a mess on the 5970. Then I won;t have to.
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#34 Sparticus247
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Man the market seems so full of nice cards these days! I'm still happy with the 4870 I've got....to think i'm about to be 2 generations behind and it's still performing well. Dang, I'm geeking out.

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#35 ionusX
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Man the market seems so full of nice cards these days! I'm still happy with the 4870 I've got....to think i'm about to be 2 generations behind and it's still performing well. Dang, I'm geeking out.

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geeking out.. zomg take ddep breaths your head might asplode!

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[QUOTE="Sparticus247"]

Man the market seems so full of nice cards these days! I'm still happy with the 4870 I've got....to think i'm about to be 2 generations behind and it's still performing well. Dang, I'm geeking out.

ionusX

geeking out.. zomg take ddep breaths your head might asplode!

I've been impressed with AMD/ATI in the last few years. The last card I had before this one was the 7600gt from Nvidia. Should have waited fro the 8 series, but I had money for a pc and wanted it then.

I may get the 6870 here once i see the real world performance.

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[QUOTE="ionusX"]

id say you might see it happen escpecially as the eyar drags on and the fermi 1.5 release inches closer.

id say itd be a safe bet two call the 6770 eventually an unintended hd 5870 clone.

Lach0121

Cool so its pretty much that close to the hd5870 that is good, Do you think the hd6770 would have better dx11 performance than the hd5870?

well it'll use less power.

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#38 ionusX
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[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

[QUOTE="ionusX"]

id say you might see it happen escpecially as the eyar drags on and the fermi 1.5 release inches closer.

id say itd be a safe bet two call the 6770 eventually an unintended hd 5870 clone.

kungfool69

Cool so its pretty much that close to the hd5870 that is good, Do you think the hd6770 would have better dx11 performance than the hd5870?

well it'll use less power.

and so far its managed to BURn the gtx 480 with a torch at benchmark with AA on (unigine and crysis: warhead)

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I originally planned to upgrade from my GTX280 SLI setup to a HD5870 CF setup. But now with the release of the 6xxx series it looks like I'm going to hold off for 2 6850's or 6870's if the price is right.
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I originally planned to upgrade from my GTX280 SLI setup to a HD5870 CF setup. But now with the release of the 6xxx series it looks like I'm going to hold off for 2 6850's or 6870's if the price is right.freesafety13

i hear ya on that im really stuck between the 6800 and 6900 series atm :twisted:

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sounds interesting but ill wait for the 7xxx series.

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what should i get to replace a gtx 275? its only used for Aion at teh moment (runs it REALLY well, cryengine 1) on an i7 920 with 6gb. i want a lower power consumption. equal if not better performance

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#43 ionusX
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what should i get to replace a gtx 275? its only used for Aion at teh moment (runs it REALLY well, cryengine 1) on an i7 920 with 6gb. i want a lower power consumption. equal if not better performance

kungfool69

the 6770 would proably be a weapon of choice then equal power use, good price, preformance will probably be good.

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[QUOTE="kungfool69"]

what should i get to replace a gtx 275? its only used for Aion at teh moment (runs it REALLY well, cryengine 1) on an i7 920 with 6gb. i want a lower power consumption. equal if not better performance

ionusX

the 6770 would proably be a weapon of choice then equal power use, good price, preformance will probably be good.

i dunno if u know the gtx 275 personannly but it has a weight problem....its heavy on the juice and heavy in size and tends to fall out slgithly if the case is knocked (u would be suprised how often this happens...)

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I am seriously considering selling my HD5770 and upgrading to a HD6850 or 6870 in time for Christmas

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[QUOTE="ionusX"]

[QUOTE="kungfool69"]

what should i get to replace a gtx 275? its only used for Aion at teh moment (runs it REALLY well, cryengine 1) on an i7 920 with 6gb. i want a lower power consumption. equal if not better performance

kungfool69

the 6770 would proably be a weapon of choice then equal power use, good price, preformance will probably be good.

i dunno if u know the gtx 275 personannly but it has a weight problem....its heavy on the juice and heavy in size and tends to fall out slgithly if the case is knocked (u would be suprised how often this happens...)

I can't believe i just read that! It happened to me a while ago. My PC wasn't booting and the graphics card fan was revving randomly. Turned out my 275 had been nudged slightly out the socket. Interesting that i'm not the only one.
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[QUOTE="kungfool69"]

[QUOTE="ionusX"]

the 6770 would proably be a weapon of choice then equal power use, good price, preformance will probably be good.

kraken2109

i dunno if u know the gtx 275 personannly but it has a weight problem....its heavy on the juice and heavy in size and tends to fall out slgithly if the case is knocked (u would be suprised how often this happens...)

I can't believe i just read that! It happened to me a while ago. My PC wasn't booting and the graphics card fan was revving randomly. Turned out my 275 had been nudged slightly out the socket. Interesting that i'm not the only one.

they do now make jacks (like changing a tyre jack) for GPU's to help prop them up.

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#48 freesafety13
Member since 2008 • 823 Posts
Just wanted to update this thread, rather than starting my own. It now appears that a name rebranding may be in the works. Of course this is all rumor until it can be confirmed, but it now appears the codename Bart GPU's will be branded as 68xx cards. Here is the link I found while trying to search for the release date of these cards. Again this is all speculation until AMD confirms it with the release of the Bart cards. EDIT Looking at some of the comments left regarding the article there is the possibility that the naming convention was just mixed up and the articles author has it wrong.
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#49 wklzip
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As far as i know...

1. The HD6850/HD6870 are not high end parts like the HD5850/HD5870 were, altough they should bring very similar performances. In other words the HD6800 series will be the replacement of the HD5700 series.

2. The HD6970 will be a single gpu codenamed Cayman, and will be the replacement of the HD5850/HD5870, will provide similar performance to the HD5970.

3. The HD6990 will be the dual gpu card codenamed Antilles, no idea the performance, havent been leaks or any kind of information other than the codename.

Those details i read them at xtremesystems, altough the Cayman and Antilles may end up with different names.

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And there is a pic of Barts, yay! :P

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#50 davi21a
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wow hold on now.... you're telling me that the 6770 and 6750 are going to be competing to the 5770 and 5750? What?!?!