"AMD's Q1 2015 financial results are out now and they are full of negative number and red markers.
Continuing to lose market share to its rivals, the Canadian chip maker has made $180 million net loss in the first 3 months of 2015. Moreover, AMD has made just $1.03 billion in revenues during the same period, which represents a 26% decline over the same quarter last year.
On the other hand, the $180 million net loss is significantly better than last year's Q1 loss of $364 million.
Unfortunately, this loss reduction is the result of a massive layoff which saw 700 employees leaving the company in August 2014.
A large chunk of the loss came from the graphics cards department which made 38 per cent less revenue year-on-year due to "challenging conditions" in the PC market. Apparently, "challenging conditions" is AMD speak for having its lunch eaten by NVIDIA which has been posting record revenues since the release of its GeForce 9xx family in Q3 2014. Nearly a year ago, NVIDIA owned 65% of the PC graphics cards market, with the remaining 35% being split between AMD and Intel among others. NVIDIA's market share is now around 76% according to independent market research."
AMD needs to get it together on all fronts. rehashing non top tier gpu lines year after year and their cpu lines not evolving since 2012.
I really hope the new 300 series GPUs don't have heat issue like the 200 series had. That can help...
We need them in the GPU marked, otherwise it will end up like the CPU marked :(
We will have to hope that GCN redesign and 20nm will allow the 390x to have the TDP below 250w. Because one undefined 300 series gpu is suppose be near 300w tdp. While that could be the 380x which is only a tweaked 290x. so its up in the air until we get more news.
I really hope the new 300 series GPUs don't have heat issue like the 200 series had. That can help...
We need them in the GPU marked, otherwise it will end up like the CPU marked :(
We will have to hope that GCN redesign and 20nm will allow the 390x to have the TDP below 250w. Because one undefined 300 series gpu is suppose be near 300w tdp. While that could be the 380x which is only a tweaked 290x. so its up in the air until we get more news.
I doubt it will be 380X... It's rumoured that 390X will have some 4096 GCN cores or whatever they are called again. So it is most likely that card. However increasing from 2800 something to over 4000 with not a higher rumoured TDP than 300 is impressive...
I really hope the new 300 series GPUs don't have heat issue like the 200 series had. That can help...
We need them in the GPU marked, otherwise it will end up like the CPU marked :(
We will have to hope that GCN redesign and 20nm will allow the 390x to have the TDP below 250w. Because one undefined 300 series gpu is suppose be near 300w tdp. While that could be the 380x which is only a tweaked 290x. so its up in the air until we get more news.
I doubt it will be 380X... It's rumoured that 390X will have some 4096 GCN cores or whatever they are called again. So it is most likely that card. However increasing from 2800 something to over 4000 with not a higher rumoured TDP than 300 is impressive...
I'm pretty confident about AMD's next new hardware. Need them to get back into profitability. I wonder how much money they are making on the console contracts.
As much as I like competition and we really do need it.. AMD has done this to themselves. They haven't come out with anything that competes well on the CPU side and GPU side just isn't impressing lately.
Like I said I want competition but the weak typically die and AMD is proving to be weak at this point.
They need a buyout from either Samsung/Qualcomm/Sega otherwise Nvidia will start to run riot even more with their prices. Please have shown they like AMD products they just need a range instead of one card worth buying.
They need a buyout from either Samsung/Qualcomm/Sega otherwise Nvidia will start to run riot even more with their prices. Please have shown they like AMD products they just need a range instead of one card worth buying.
Dear god no, they would probably end up as a mobile chip only company. Then we'd really be fucked.
As much as I like competition and we really do need it.. AMD has done this to themselves. They haven't come out with anything that competes well on the CPU side and GPU side just isn't impressing lately.
Like I said I want competition but the weak typically die and AMD is proving to be weak at this point.
Its because Intel screwed them over with shady anti-competitive business practices, its why AMD won that lawsuit last year but it was too little too late.
There's way more to it than that. AMD did much of the damage to itself.
As much as I like competition and we really do need it.. AMD has done this to themselves. They haven't come out with anything that competes well on the CPU side and GPU side just isn't impressing lately.
Like I said I want competition but the weak typically die and AMD is proving to be weak at this point.
Its because Intel screwed them over with shady anti-competitive business practices, its why AMD won that lawsuit last year but it was too little too late.
There's way more to it than that. AMD did much of the damage to itself.
Intel did hurt them pretty bad back in 2005-2010. They cornered the market share and technologies using shady practices. And AMD's decisions on the cpu front after that time frame were poor and them rehashing 7000 series gpus into the 200's and again with 300 series including rehashed 200 series speaks volumes in what kind rut they are in.
im not sure how they can continue to lose this much money and stay competitive. everything from amd is slower and uses more power... you can't continue to make inferior products and expect to stay in business
I hope AMD steps up their game soon. No new CPU, GPU's are taking so long to come out..
Perhaps they want to associate their GPUs with running water instead? :P
@wis3boi said:
gaben's glorious master race circuit boards
If only that would help AMD.
@Old_Gooseberry said:
im not sure how they can continue to lose this much money and stay competitive. everything from amd is slower and uses more power... you can't continue to make inferior products and expect to stay in business
It would help them to get down to 22nm or below. That would at least lower the power consumption.
I desperately want AMD's new chip to come out and rival Intel.. Intel with the I3/I5/I7 series have due to AMD's weakness have released some of the worse changes for the user to date.. Those being only allowing a select few chips as unlocked for overclocking.. Gone is the day of finding something like a I3 equivalent budget chip and overclocking the crap out of it til it is up there with the mid to high range chips.
It's sad that AMD's chips are powering both PS4 and XB1 (which are both selling at a record pace) and AMD still can't turn a profit. Things are not good. It has been about 10 years since I have bought AMD/ATI and I don't see myself buying any of their products any time soon. I am sure many others are in the same boat. I don't want them to die because competition is good, but they don't have any exciting products. More dark days ahead...
Maintain their "bang for buck" approach in regard to the mid-range market but increase their production for the high-end market (they need their own equivalent to the NVIDIA Titan X).
Maintain their "bang for buck" approach in regard to the mid-range market but increase their production for the high-end market (they need their own equivalent to the NVIDIA Titan X).
The fact that they keep rehashing previous generation gpu's for the majority of the new product lines dont help. I mean take someone that bought a 7970 in 2012/2013 there is no point in buying a 280 or 280x, since you would think every new generation should be at least some moderate gains. Then it looks like that the 290's "tweaked" will be the 380 series and will we see the 370's again be nothing more but tweaked 7970's or an 285.
But... don't they own the console market in a way? Whoever wins between the Xbox One and PS4, AMD wins anyways, because they made the chipsets for both consoles.
Maintain their "bang for buck" approach in regard to the mid-range market but increase their production for the high-end market (they need their own equivalent to the NVIDIA Titan X).
The fact that they keep rehashing previous generation gpu's for the majority of the new product lines dont help. I mean take someone that bought a 7970 in 2012/2013 there is no point in buying a 280 or 280x, since you would think every new generation should be at least some moderate gains. Then it looks like that the 290's "tweaked" will be the 380 series and will we see the 370's again be nothing more but tweaked 7970's or an 285.
Aren't these new cards supposed to have significantly smaller dies (550mm^2 to 650mm^2) and a new type of memory called "Hybrid Memory Standard"?
Maintain their "bang for buck" approach in regard to the mid-range market but increase their production for the high-end market (they need their own equivalent to the NVIDIA Titan X).
The fact that they keep rehashing previous generation gpu's for the majority of the new product lines dont help. I mean take someone that bought a 7970 in 2012/2013 there is no point in buying a 280 or 280x, since you would think every new generation should be at least some moderate gains. Then it looks like that the 290's "tweaked" will be the 380 series and will we see the 370's again be nothing more but tweaked 7970's or an 285.
Aren't these new cards supposed to have significantly smaller dies (550mm^2 to 650mm^2) and a new type of memory called "Hybrid Memory Standard"?
die shrinkage is nothing new, the architecture is nearly the same ie 380 and below. They will most likely have higher based clocks if anything from the power savings and less heat output. HBM is just for the 380+ series I do believe. It wont make any real big difference at 1440p or 1080p gaming, GDDR5 512bit is good enough. From what ive read 370x is suppose to be 15-20% slower then 290.
AMD has currently scheduled new GPU launch for Computex. But there are problems with 390X and 395X2 yields.
I don't think this is helping their financial status...
From TweakTown:
AMD Radeon R9 390X rumored to be in very short supply at launch
AMD's Fiji XT-based Radeon R9 390X will have extremely limited numbers at launch, according to our sources (NYSE:AMD, NASDAQ:NVDA)
We're getting closer and closer to the release of the Radeon R9 390X, but we've been hearing some rumblings from within the industry. Our sources have said that AMD will have two Radeon R9 390X cards to launch: one of them will be the Radeon R9 395X2 (a dual-GPU version) with 8GB of VRAM. The second card will be a 4GB version that won't beat the GeForce GTX Titan X.
The dual-GPU will beat the GeForce GTX Titan X, but the normal 4GB won't be capable of beating NVIDIA's GM200-based beast. Our industry sources also tell us that there are some hurdles with yields on HBM, which will see a very limited supply of Radeon R9 390X and Radeon R9 395X2 cards right through to the end of the year.
We're expecting AMD to launch their Radeon R9 390X and R9 395X2 at Computex 2015, which kicks off in the first week of June. With NVIDIA having some 74% of the discrete GPU market, AMD needs to sell as many cards as they can, and these yield issues are something we don't need to hear about right now.
From Fudzilla also:
Two AMD Fiji cards coming in June
Fiji XT and Fiji VR dual-chip
We have an update on AMD’s highly anticipated flagship GPU, codenamed Fiji.
There will be at least two Fiji cards, probably even more. The second revision of the GPU works a bit better and some of you might know that Fiji was supposed to come in Q1, but it was delayed for mid- 2015.
As far as our sources are aware, the launch date is in June or the last month of the second quarter. AMD should launch the Carrizo APU at Computex at some point after June 2nd, and we heard that Fiji might come a week or two later, if not at the same event.
There will be two Fiji cards, Fiji XT a performance GPU for high end gamers and Fiji VR that will have two Fiji GPUs on a single PCB. Fiji XT is faster than Nvidia’s Geforce GTX 980, but it is unlikely that it will end up faster than the Geforce Titan.
Have in mind that Nvidia has a performance driver up at its sleeve that might coincidentally launch at the same with when Fiji comes to market. Fiji VR is expected to come at a later date, since we are quite sure that many VR glasses including like HTC Vive VR won’t be readily available in time.
AMD really needs to start creating attractive GPUs again...
And I am really worried about their CPU department, after what I read about Zen.
"16core APU and 32core Opteron".
I think they are continue with the "moar cores" idea and that would be disastrous for their CPU department...
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