amd makes a wild claim.. 4-cfx 7970's will consume next to no power

not making this up..

http://www.donanimhaber.com/ekran-karti/haberleri/AMDden-Nvidiaya-gonderme-Coklu-GPU-enerji-verimliliginde-acik-ara-ondeyiz.htm

Link isn't english :|

Link isn't english :|

InternetSwag

must use google translate!!

Just remind me why I'd want 4...

That's idle power consumption is it not?achilles614

yep.. their goal is 0 power consumption.. the 7970 they claim while idle consume -30watts of power.

Well,there are way too many rumors about this 7000 series,they're hyping and rumoring it like crazy,have no idea what to trust...

Also,TC,I get the impression you really like AMD...

Well,there are way too many rumors about this 7000 series,they're hyping and rumoring it like crazy,have no idea what to trust...

Also,TC,I get the impression you really like AMD...

Rocker6

i try and treat both equally but when knews of yet another rebadge series comes out.. i gotta show no love.

i'll wait for reviews to see if these claims are real but i have been manually underclocking gpu's for my normal pc work for years so i applaud the efforts.

AMD also said that 1 7970 will equal a 6990 in performance. If we go by their hype in past releases, I'd say the 7970 will be just a tad faster than a 580 and consume about as much as a 6970. They said the 6970 would totally, absolutely, destroy, obliterate, ravage, rape, etc etc the 480 in performance...but instead it just barely managed to be equal to the 480/570. I would never trust AMDs post release claims again. Especially after the whole Buldozer odreal, which they also hyped up to be the coming of the CPU messiah, but it ended up much worse than the mid-range Sandy Bridge solutions.

AMD also said that 1 7970 will equal a 6990 in performance. If we go by their hype in past releases, I'd say the 7970 will be just a tad faster than a 580 and consume about as much as a 6970. They said the 6970 would totally, absolutely, destroy, obliterate, ravage, rape, etc etc the 480 in performance...but instead it just barely managed to be equal to the 480/570. I would never trust AMDs post release claims again. Especially after the whole Buldozer odreal, which they also hyped up to be the coming of the CPU messiah, but it ended up much worse than the mid-range Sandy Bridge solutions.

QQabitmoar

I agree,while I keep an open mind and hate no hardware producing company,AMD is going way too far with all this 7000 series rumors and hype,I think...

In the end,I have a feeling most will end up being false...

AMD also said that 1 7970 will equal a 6990 in performance. If we go by their hype in past releases, I'd say the 7970 will be just a tad faster than a 580 and consume about as much as a 6970. They said the 6970 would totally, absolutely, destroy, obliterate, ravage, rape, etc etc the 480 in performance...but instead it just barely managed to be equal to the 480/570. I would never trust AMDs post release claims again. Especially after the whole Buldozer odreal, which they also hyped up to be the coming of the CPU messiah, but it ended up much worse than the mid-range Sandy Bridge solutions.

QQabitmoar

Not sure what makes this a wild claim (well, other than not including "at idle" in the title) -- they found a way to shut down idle GPUs similar to power gating a multicore CPU, and made a purdy graph to make it look like a 4xNvidia set-up would suck down an unconscionable amount of power. Good on AMD and all because it will be a nice feature for CFX set-ups, but it's such an obvious idea I'm surprised they're just coming up with this now.

I like how they say 4xCompetitive Solution.GazaAli

Yeah haha :P I wonder who they mean :D

AMD also said that 1 7970 will equal a 6990 in performance. If we go by their hype in past releases, I'd say the 7970 will be just a tad faster than a 580 and consume about as much as a 6970. They said the 6970 would totally, absolutely, destroy, obliterate, ravage, rape, etc etc the 480 in performance...but instead it just barely managed to be equal to the 480/570. I would never trust AMDs post release claims again. Especially after the whole Buldozer odreal, which they also hyped up to be the coming of the CPU messiah, but it ended up much worse than the mid-range Sandy Bridge solutions.

QQabitmoar

So long as the 7970 is around 400 bucks, it's almost a guarantee that I'll be picking it up.

[QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

AMD also said that 1 7970 will equal a 6990 in performance. If we go by their hype in past releases, I'd say the 7970 will be just a tad faster than a 580 and consume about as much as a 6970. They said the 6970 would totally, absolutely, destroy, obliterate, ravage, rape, etc etc the 480 in performance...but instead it just barely managed to be equal to the 480/570. I would never trust AMDs post release claims again. Especially after the whole Buldozer odreal, which they also hyped up to be the coming of the CPU messiah, but it ended up much worse than the mid-range Sandy Bridge solutions.

adamosmaki

Anyways AMD has been beating nvidia at the power consumption for quite some time now, I wonder why they dont enter the smartphone market with all there power efficient solutions, thats where it really matters.

[QUOTE="adamosmaki"][QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

AMD also said that 1 7970 will equal a 6990 in performance. If we go by their hype in past releases, I'd say the 7970 will be just a tad faster than a 580 and consume about as much as a 6970. They said the 6970 would totally, absolutely, destroy, obliterate, ravage, rape, etc etc the 480 in performance...but instead it just barely managed to be equal to the 480/570. I would never trust AMDs post release claims again. Especially after the whole Buldozer odreal, which they also hyped up to be the coming of the CPU messiah, but it ended up much worse than the mid-range Sandy Bridge solutions.

Gambler_3

Anyways AMD has been beating nvidia at the power consumption for quite some time now, I wonder why they dont enter the smartphone market with all there power efficient solutions, thats where it really matters.

Except on desktop CPUs right? That's the only component that really needs to be low power.

Except on desktop CPUs right? That's the only component that really needs to be low power.

GummiRaccoon

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

Except on desktop CPUs right? That's the only component that really needs to be low power.

Gambler_3

Same here :P

[QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

AMD also said that 1 7970 will equal a 6990 in performance. If we go by their hype in past releases, I'd say the 7970 will be just a tad faster than a 580 and consume about as much as a 6970. They said the 6970 would totally, absolutely, destroy, obliterate, ravage, rape, etc etc the 480 in performance...but instead it just barely managed to be equal to the 480/570. I would never trust AMDs post release claims again. Especially after the whole Buldozer odreal, which they also hyped up to be the coming of the CPU messiah, but it ended up much worse than the mid-range Sandy Bridge solutions.

GummiRaccoon

Thank you for bringing that most important of issues to our attention. You are truly a gentleman and a scholar.

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

AMD also said that 1 7970 will equal a 6990 in performance. If we go by their hype in past releases, I'd say the 7970 will be just a tad faster than a 580 and consume about as much as a 6970. They said the 6970 would totally, absolutely, destroy, obliterate, ravage, rape, etc etc the 480 in performance...but instead it just barely managed to be equal to the 480/570. I would never trust AMDs post release claims again. Especially after the whole Buldozer odreal, which they also hyped up to be the coming of the CPU messiah, but it ended up much worse than the mid-range Sandy Bridge solutions.

Slow_Show

Thank you for bringing that most important of issues to our attention. You are truly a gentleman and a scholar.

I agree - I can now sleep peacefully at night.

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

AMD also said that 1 7970 will equal a 6990 in performance. If we go by their hype in past releases, I'd say the 7970 will be just a tad faster than a 580 and consume about as much as a 6970. They said the 6970 would totally, absolutely, destroy, obliterate, ravage, rape, etc etc the 480 in performance...but instead it just barely managed to be equal to the 480/570. I would never trust AMDs post release claims again. Especially after the whole Buldozer odreal, which they also hyped up to be the coming of the CPU messiah, but it ended up much worse than the mid-range Sandy Bridge solutions.

Slow_Show

Thank you for bringing that most important of issues to our attention. You are truly a gentleman and a scholar.

0 power consumption? Impossibru! The black magic!

Thats the way its meant to be played with no power for idling.

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

Except on desktop CPUs right? That's the only component that really needs to be low power.

Postmortem123

Same here :P

im glad At least AMD is pushing power efficiency, or else we'd have bigger and hotter cards every gen just like the ridiculous 480gtx. Also while not alot of pc gamers care too much about power consumption, everyone else does. You forget that pc gamers are a minority compared to all the other businesses, corporations and normal people out there. And like gambler said, if it werent for AMD doing wahat they're doing, nvidia would force all pc gamers to upgrade their power supply every gen.

[QUOTE="Postmortem123"]

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]Meh as long as I dont have to buy a new PSU, I really dont care about the power consumption of my computer.

blaznwiipspman1

Same here :P

im glad At least AMD is pushing power efficiency, or else we'd have bigger and hotter cards every gen just like the ridiculous 480gtx. Also while not alot of pc gamers care too much about power consumption, everyone else does. You forget that pc gamers are a minority compared to all the other businesses, corporations and normal people out there. And like gambler said, if it werent for AMD doing wahat they're doing, nvidia would force all pc gamers to upgrade their power supply every gen.

Yeah for sure - I would definitely have bought a 6000 series for the heat and power alone, but the price-performance for these 480s beat any available AMD option. Hopefully Nvidia will continue with improving efficiency in their 700 series.

Theres no-way you can completely shutdown a GPU, maybe halve the power and then severly downclock itself, but 0? cant believe that till I see proof.

AMD also said that 1 7970 will equal a 6990 in performance. If we go by their hype in past releases, I'd say the 7970 will be just a tad faster than a 580 and consume about as much as a 6970. They said the 6970 would totally, absolutely, destroy, obliterate, ravage, rape, etc etc the 480 in performance...but instead it just barely managed to be equal to the 480/570. I would never trust AMDs post release claims again. Especially after the whole Buldozer odreal, which they also hyped up to be the coming of the CPU messiah, but it ended up much worse than the mid-range Sandy Bridge solutions.

QQabitmoar

Well, they did fire their entire marketing department basically, so perhaps the PR articles coming out could have more reliability now.

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

Well,there are way too many rumors about this 7000 series,they're hyping and rumoring it like crazy,have no idea what to trust...

Also,TC,I get the impression you really like AMD...

ionusX

i try and treat both equally but when knews of yet another rebadge series comes out.. i gotta show no love.

Gotta take that both ways. AMD did the same thing with the 67xx series.

AMD also said that 1 7970 will equal a 6990 in performance. If we go by their hype in past releases, I'd say the 7970 will be just a tad faster than a 580 and consume about as much as a 6970. They said the 6970 would totally, absolutely, destroy, obliterate, ravage, rape, etc etc the 480 in performance...but instead it just barely managed to be equal to the 480/570. I would never trust AMDs post release claims again. Especially after the whole Buldozer odreal, which they also hyped up to be the coming of the CPU messiah, but it ended up much worse than the mid-range Sandy Bridge solutions.

QQabitmoar

AMD made no such claims about their GPUs...

[QUOTE="ionusX"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

Well,there are way too many rumors about this 7000 series,they're hyping and rumoring it like crazy,have no idea what to trust...

Also,TC,I get the impression you really like AMD...

ravenguard90

i try and treat both equally but when knews of yet another rebadge series comes out.. i gotta show no love.

Gotta take that both ways. AMD did the same thing with the 67xx series.

hd 6790.. your arguement holds some water but not as much as you think

id also like to point out that that was an individual set of cards, while the gtx 600's will be a whole lineup (with the addition of the oem's of the 500's this time)

[QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

AMD also said that 1 7970 will equal a 6990 in performance. If we go by their hype in past releases, I'd say the 7970 will be just a tad faster than a 580 and consume about as much as a 6970. They said the 6970 would totally, absolutely, destroy, obliterate, ravage, rape, etc etc the 480 in performance...but instead it just barely managed to be equal to the 480/570. I would never trust AMDs post release claims again. Especially after the whole Buldozer odreal, which they also hyped up to be the coming of the CPU messiah, but it ended up much worse than the mid-range Sandy Bridge solutions.

LordEC911

AMD made no such claims about their GPUs...

they did actually claim it to be superior to the 6990 actually and then the benchies we have suggest = gtx 590

so i say that the hype breaker that qq was discussing has already come and gone, he just cant see it yet.

[QUOTE="Postmortem123"]

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]Meh as long as I dont have to buy a new PSU, I really dont care about the power consumption of my computer.

blaznwiipspman1

Same here :P

im glad At least AMD is pushing power efficiency, or else we'd have bigger and hotter cards every gen just like the ridiculous 480gtx. Also while not alot of pc gamers care too much about power consumption, everyone else does. You forget that pc gamers are a minority compared to all the other businesses, corporations and normal people out there. And like gambler said, if it werent for AMD doing wahat they're doing, nvidia would force all pc gamers to upgrade their power supply every gen.

Not sure what makes this a wild claim (well, other than not including "at idle" in the title) -- they found a way to shut down idle GPUs similar to power gating a multicore CPU, and made a purdy graph to make it look like a 4xNvidia set-up would suck down an unconscionable amount of power. Good on AMD and all because it will be a nice feature for CFX set-ups, but it's such an obvious idea I'm surprised they're just coming up with this now.

Slow_Show

[QUOTE="LordEC911"]

[QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

AMD also said that 1 7970 will equal a 6990 in performance. If we go by their hype in past releases, I'd say the 7970 will be just a tad faster than a 580 and consume about as much as a 6970. They said the 6970 would totally, absolutely, destroy, obliterate, ravage, rape, etc etc the 480 in performance...but instead it just barely managed to be equal to the 480/570. I would never trust AMDs post release claims again. Especially after the whole Buldozer odreal, which they also hyped up to be the coming of the CPU messiah, but it ended up much worse than the mid-range Sandy Bridge solutions.

ionusX

AMD made no such claims about their GPUs...

they did actually claim it to be superior to the 6990 actually and then the benchies we have suggest = gtx 590

so i say that the hype breaker that qq was discussing has already come and gone, he just cant see it yet.

Source...

[QUOTE="achilles614"]That's idle power consumption is it not?ionusX

yep.. their goal is 0 power consumption.. the 7970 they claim while idle consume -30watts of power.

[QUOTE="ionusX"]

[QUOTE="achilles614"]That's idle power consumption is it not?spittis

yep.. their goal is 0 power consumption.. the 7970 they claim while idle consume -30watts of power.

I think what TC wanted to say is how 7970 is said to use LESS than 30 Watts on idle...

This is nice, but My GTX570 will last for some time to come. I plan for atleast another 2 years with it as my gpu, then I might make it my permanent Dedi Physx, and upgrade to the GTX7 or GTX8 series GPU.

My GF's HD6870 we are going to try and hold out until the HD8 series from AMD comes out. Her card is over a year old now, we plan to get at least another year or so out of it before we upgrade.

Pretty much we are set on GPUs for a while. But its nice to see AMD trying to make extremely powerful cards with less and less power consumption. Nvidia should also follow this line, if not eventually it will start affecting their sales, in comparison to AMD. Power Efficiency is becoming more and more of a stipulate this day in age, regardless if some pc gamers don't care about their power-consumption.

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[QUOTE="achilles614"]That's idle power consumption is it not?spittis

yep.. their goal is 0 power consumption.. the 7970 they claim while idle consume -30watts of power.

Most likely he meant to use a tilde (~) which means "about"

[QUOTE="spittis"][QUOTE="ionusX"]

yep.. their goal is 0 power consumption.. the 7970 they claim while idle consume -30watts of power.

GummiRaccoon

Most likely he meant to use a tilde (~) which means "about"

Isn't ~30W idle power consumption what we're seeing with current cards?

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="spittis"] Claims who? AMD? No way. You do realize that something cannot consume negative amounts of power...GS550L

Most likely he meant to use a tilde (~) which means "about"

Isn't ~30W idle power consumption what we're seeing with current cards?

Not 4 of them at once.

[QUOTE="spittis"][QUOTE="ionusX"]

yep.. their goal is 0 power consumption.. the 7970 they claim while idle consume -30watts of power.

GummiRaccoon

Most likely he meant to use a tilde (~) which means "about"

yeah because once you have no power you have no power no way ANYTHING can take a negative amounts of power. once your at 0 power your will always be at 0 power nothing less lol.

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="spittis"] Claims who? AMD? No way. You do realize that something cannot consume negative amounts of power...msfan1289

Most likely he meant to use a tilde (~) which means "about"

yeah because once you have no power you have no power no way ANYTHING can take a negative amounts of power. once your at 0 power your will always be at 0 power nothing less lol.

i ment less than 30

not about or -30 not i ment less than 30

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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

Most likely he meant to use a tilde (~) which means "about"

ionusX

yeah because once you have no power you have no power no way ANYTHING can take a negative amounts of power. once your at 0 power your will always be at 0 power nothing less lol.

i ment less than 30

not about or -30 not i ment less than 30

Well minus doesn't mean less than. I know these boards don't really use the signs appropriate than that, but clearly your choice was confusing.