AMD no longer competiting against Intel in CPU performance

sauce

Should come as no surprise since they haven't been competiting for years anyway.

it's spelt 'source', sauce is what you put into foodmetacritical

Its a joke... :roll:

[QUOTE="metacritical"]it's spelt 'source', sauce is what you put into foodGTR12

Its a joke... :roll:

He's just mad.

It's academic to me. I'm back in the Intel camp starting with my cheap Celeron E3400 server/spare PC. My next CPU upgrade or entirely new build will be based around an Intel CPU. Upgrade will probably be an Intel i5 2500k. If I wait until next year for an entirely new PC, I'll get whatever best bang for the buck Intel will have at that point.

[QUOTE="metacritical"]it's spelt 'source', sauce is what you put into foodGTR12

Its a joke... :roll:

[QUOTE="GTR12"]

[QUOTE="metacritical"]it's spelt 'source', sauce is what you put into foodmetacritical

Its a joke... :roll:

Surely if they got themselves together, they could once again compete with Intel. It would be a pretty uninspiring market, with only one person in the race.C_Rule

Or worse, having to once more pay $500 for a midrange CPU and that's just the CPU.

lul this was announced months ago.. get wit teh program

http://www.techpowerup.com/155920/AMD-To-Give-Up-Competing-With-Intel-On-x86-CPU-Prices-Already-Shooting-Up.html

[QUOTE="GTR12"]

[QUOTE="metacritical"]it's spelt 'source', sauce is what you put into foodmetacritical

Its a joke... :roll:

[QUOTE="metacritical"][QUOTE="GTR12"]

Its a joke... :roll:

Elann2008

[QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="metacritical"]if you say sometacritical

Thank god, now I know what to get for my gaming needs in the future!

well i guess this pretty much tell me to ditch AMD in my next build, and ill just wait for the next line of AM3+ CPUS to comes out if the performace is not right, then ill find a way to get rid of my AM3+ motherboard and but a intel board and intel CPU. in this case i need a question to ask, which i will ask in a new forum post.

They haven't really been competitive since Intel launched the Core 2 Conroe back in 2006. They've been lagging behind badly ever since.

[QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="metacritical"]if you say sometacritical

[QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="metacritical"]if you say sometacritical

[QUOTE="metacritical"][QUOTE="GTR12"]

Its a joke... :roll:

JigglyWiggly_

^ this.

4 channers don't understand their lingo doesn't work outside of their boards.

Also if I wanted to be on /g/ I'd be on /g/ not gamespot.

Oh good, they're making up excuses saying we don't need more computing power. "Enough processing power in every laptop". What a joke. Yes, we need better graphics solutions in laptops and more powerful smartphone are also good. But just because they can't compete with Intel when it comes to performance, does not mean they should be making up silly excuses. This statement tells me they have no faith in Piledriver's CPU performance. Surely if they got themselves together, they could once again compete with Intel. It would be a pretty uninspiring market, with only one person in the race.C_Rule

Nah, they are partially correct. The majority of people don't need more power than what an Athlon II provides. Obviously some tasks will continue to benefit from increased CPU performance but that isn't the case for everyone.

It's like automobile engines... we continue to refine them and improve them but we aren't sticking 2000 horsepower engines in Camry's because that would be really pointless. Now we are trying to get the 150-250 ideal horsepower out of more efficient and smaller engines. We are approaching a similar plateau in CPU performance. Your average laptop doesn't need a core i7 IB. That is why improving power consumption and GPU performance is more important than increase raw power.

[QUOTE="C_Rule"]Oh good, they're making up excuses saying we don't need more computing power. "Enough processing power in every laptop". What a joke. Yes, we need better graphics solutions in laptops and more powerful smartphone are also good. But just because they can't compete with Intel when it comes to performance, does not mean they should be making up silly excuses. This statement tells me they have no faith in Piledriver's CPU performance. Surely if they got themselves together, they could once again compete with Intel. It would be a pretty uninspiring market, with only one person in the race.Tezcatlipoca666

Nah, they are partially correct. The majority of people don't need more power than what an Athlon II provides. Obviously some tasks will continue to benefit from increased CPU performance but that isn't the case for everyone.

It's like automobile engines... we continue to refine them and improve them but we aren't sticking 2000 horsepower engines in Camry's because that would be really pointless. Now we are trying to get the 150-250 ideal horsepower out of more efficient and smaller engines. We are approaching a similar plateau in CPU performance. Your average laptop doesn't need a core i7 IB. That is why improving power consumption and GPU performance is more important than increase raw power.

At work, Any machine with windows 7 running on a C2D is considered good. Most people do not need more than a C2D or athlon II x2.

Hell we started taking some peoples PCs and started replacing them with HP thin clients.

[QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="metacritical"]if you say sometacritical

is it because this was your new AMD cpu ?

[QUOTE="metacritical"][QUOTE="Elann2008"] Clearly, the internet isn't for you. That may be a good thing.MW2ismygame

is it because this was your new AMD cpu ?

That makes sense how?

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="metacritical"]if you say soGummiRaccoon

^ this.

4 channers don't understand their lingo doesn't work outside of their boards.

Also if I wanted to be on /g/ I'd be on /g/ not gamespot.

AMD is correct in saying that we don't need the type of brute CPU power that we have today. That's why they've been so successful with their mobile chips in recent years. Obviously they need to change something to stay afloat, since the head to head pure horsepower war with Intel isn't working financially. I'd be a liar if I said that I was happy about this.. but it doesn't matter. It's just reality.

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"] sauce is a typical term, p much used everywhere in 4 chan then old recycled stuff comes to gs and then ppl here say they hate 4 chanC_Rule

^ this.

4 channers don't understand their lingo doesn't work outside of their boards.

Also if I wanted to be on /g/ I'd be on /g/ not gamespot.

Which is why we don't need that crap here.

[QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="metacritical"]if you say sometacritical

[QUOTE="metacritical"][QUOTE="Elann2008"] Clearly, the internet isn't for you. That may be a good thing.tequilasunriser

he mad?

[QUOTE="metacritical"][QUOTE="Elann2008"] Clearly, the internet isn't for you. That may be a good thing.tequilasunriser

source

Should come as no surprise since they haven't been competiting for years anyway.

[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"][QUOTE="metacritical"]if you say so. there is however a difference between the internet and an immature collection of people who take pride in their apparent illiteracy. GummiRaccoon

he mad?

.

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"] Son, you best get that internet cherry popped. Your tender ass won't last long 'round these here parts.tequilasunriser

he mad?

.

AMD is correct in saying that we don't need the type of brute CPU power that we have today. That's why they've been so successful with their mobile chips in recent years. Obviously they need to change something to stay afloat, since the head to head pure horsepower war with Intel isn't working financially. I'd be a liar if I said that I was happy about this.. but it doesn't matter. It's just reality.

hartsickdiscipl

[QUOTE="metacritical"][QUOTE="Elann2008"] Clearly, the internet isn't for you. That may be a good thing.C_Rule

maybe he's allergic to sauce

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

AMD is correct in saying that we don't need the type of brute CPU power that we have today. That's why they've been so successful with their mobile chips in recent years. Obviously they need to change something to stay afloat, since the head to head pure horsepower war with Intel isn't working financially. I'd be a liar if I said that I was happy about this.. but it doesn't matter. It's just reality.

Toxic-Seahorse

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"] Son, you best get that internet cherry popped. Your tender ass won't last long 'round these here parts.tequilasunriser

he mad?

.

I doubt they're gonna stop selling CPU's completely. They might eventually phase out traditional CPUs and only sell APUs, but they won't giv up CPUs completely. OT: This sucks. Competition is always a good thing, but now that AMD has dropped out of the performance market, Intel is going to put a big premium on their products now. I'v always liked AMD as the cheaper alternative to Intel's (and more recently, and perhaps to a lesser extent, Nvidia's) products, but if their CPUs will no longer be viable for PC gaming, then I guess i'm going to have to jump ship...... Now that I think about it though, in PC gaming, the GPU is wayyyyyy more important than the CPU. Right now, pretty much any quad-core with 3+ GHz clock speed is enough for any game. Maybe AMD has realized this, and will allocate more resources else where, now that any real need for bleeding-edge CPU performance is no longer needed (in gaming anyway). All that said, I wouldn't mind if another competitor came in to take their place in the performance market. IBM anyone? >_>Toxic-Seahorse

Most of Intel's sales are the CPU+IGP type fusion chips e.g. Sandybridge.

[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"]

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

he mad?

JigglyWiggly_

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Thread is now about memes.

sauce

Should come as no surprise since they haven't been competiting for years anyway.

ChubbyGuy40

Thank god, now I know what to get for my gaming needs in the future!

mitu123

I have this feeling that Intel and Nvidia will be the face of PC gaming, while AMD is just their just to be an option

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Thank god, now I know what to get for my gaming needs in the future!

NoodleFighter

I have this feeling that Intel and Nvidia will be the face of PC gaming, while AMD is just their just to be an option

Unsupported view via statistics i.e. Q1 2012 GPU market share. http://www.legitreviews.com/news/13196/

For late Q2/Q3/Q4 2012 baseline PCs, AMD Trinity APU and Intel Ivybridge CPU-EPG reduces the need for NVIDIA.

For Intel Ivybridge era,

March 2012 http://www.tomshardware.com/news/apple-nvidia-intel-kepler-ivy-bridge,15015.html "Apple May Have Cut Kepler GPUs From Some New MacBooks"

May 2012 http://news.techeye.net/chips/apple-dumps-nvidia "Apple dumps Nvidia"

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Thank god, now I know what to get for my gaming needs in the future!

NoodleFighter

I have this feeling that Intel and Nvidia will be the face of PC gaming, while AMD is just their just to be an option

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Thank god, now I know what to get for my gaming needs in the future!

NoodleFighter

I have this feeling that Intel and Nvidia will be the face of PC gaming, while AMD is just their just to be an option

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Thank god, now I know what to get for my gaming needs in the future!

NoodleFighter

I have this feeling that Intel and Nvidia will be the face of PC gaming, while AMD is just their just to be an option

This is a good move overall. 99% of the population just wants a computer for internet, movies, word processing, music, and pictures; all things that 10 year old processors can accomplish.

This is a good move overall. 99% of the population just wants a computer for internet, movies, word processing, music, and pictures; all things that 10 year old processors can accomplish.

hoola

[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Thank god, now I know what to get for my gaming needs in the future!

Toxic-Seahorse

I have this feeling that Intel and Nvidia will be the face of PC gaming, while AMD is just their just to be an option

I know that but you see more of Nvidia's face around, I see them more involved in PC Gaming development, especially since they don't have any next gen consoles to work on.

Seeing how the work close with developers like Epic Games and Crytek along with other developers/games and promote them whatever way they can. Maybe AMD is more quite about it, but I definately notice Nvidia doing it more.

[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Thank god, now I know what to get for my gaming needs in the future!

ronvalencia

I have this feeling that Intel and Nvidia will be the face of PC gaming, while AMD is just their just to be an option

Unsupported view via statistics i.e. Q1 2012 GPU market share. http://www.legitreviews.com/news/13196/

For late Q2/Q3/Q4 2012 baseline PCs, AMD Trinity APU and Intel Ivybridge CPU-EPG reduces the need for NVIDIA.

For Intel Ivybridge era,

March 2012 http://www.tomshardware.com/news/apple-nvidia-intel-kepler-ivy-bridge,15015.html "Apple May Have Cut Kepler GPUs From Some New MacBooks"

May 2012 http://news.techeye.net/chips/apple-dumps-nvidia "Apple dumps Nvidia"

What's AMDs stats without including APUs?

What does Apple have to do with PC Gaming?

THat report also says Nvidia withdrawed from IGPs.