amd on the march. introduces intel to its netbook jackboot

it is often said that if you want to make an impression you need to drag someone out of their bed and remind them of who you are. amd has certainly called intel out over the z-01 llano netbook apu.

the unclocked realitvely mysterious z-01 is amd's response to atom. in the following video we will watch how badly amd KNOCKS THE PANTS off intel's BEST atom.

http://www.guruht.com/2011/09/intel-atom-z670-vs-amd-z-01-apu-gaming.html

benched on battlefield heroes and serious sam HD: TFE

battlefield heroes: intel runs at way below sub 30 fps an ungiven but the exact same setting as the z-01 which is running it at a good 30+

serious sam HD: TFE the z-01 again runs it jsut fine.. atom it crashes trying to start the game.. so instead they let it play solitaire in the corner. relatively cheap to produce in comparison to its llano laptop or desktop sister the z-01 once it hits the market stands to not even be on the same PLANET as intel's atom.

I'll cheer for AMD if bulldozer rapes sandy bridge.

I thought the C-50 and E-350 were their answer to atom? The latter of which already handily beats it.

Que?

1) These are tablet processors, not netbook processors.

2) Z-01 isn't mysterious. It's just a power-optimised C-50 (~6W TDP instead of 9W).

2) Z670 isn't top of the line Atom. It's the top-of-the-line Lincroft, which is the MID (ie tablet) oriented Atom line. Top of the line Atom is Pineview (which would probably outperform C-50/Z-01; still falls short of E-350 though).

3) This is a stupid comparison. Z-01 is faster because AMD shoe-horned a netbook processor into a tablet form-factor: great if you want to be tethered to a wall all day or carry around a ginormous battery, not so great if you think tablet is synonymous with "iPad". Lincroft is at least makes a reasonable effort to keep TDP low (3W), but it's still significantly more power hungry than the ARM-based competition.

So, uh, congrats to AMD for winning a near-meaningless competition that will have near-as-makes-no-difference zero effect on the market?

Que?

1) These are tablet processors, not netbook processors.

2) Z-01 isn't mysterious. It's just a power-optimised C-50 (~6W TDP instead of 9W).

2) Z670 isn't top of the line Atom. It's the top-of-the-line Lincroft, which is the MID (ie tablet) oriented Atom line. Top of the line Atom is Pineview (which would probably outperform C-50/Z-01; still falls short of E-350 though).

3) This is a stupid comparison. Z-01 is faster because AMD shoe-horned a netbook processor into a tablet form-factor: great if you want to be tethered to a wall all day or carry around a ginormous battery, not so great if you think tablet is synonymous with "iPad". Lincroft is at least makes a reasonable effort to keep TDP low (3W), but it's still significantly more power hungry than the ARM-based competition.

So, uh, congrats to AMD for winning a near-meaningless competition that will have near-as-makes-no-difference zero effect on the market?

PBSnipes

So does this mean AMD are just enginerring their own test results to look better? You seem to bring up a lot of valid point so i'll go with AMD bending the rules a little to "smoke" Intel.JohnF111

Yes and no. Z-01 is a hell of a lot more powerful than Z670, so I'm not sure you can really call them "engineered" test results. But on the other hand the Windows 7 tablet/slate market is so bizarre that I just don't see the value of a comparison -- you're stuck with a ****ty product either way, the only difference is Atom seems more tolerable in terms of heat (the MSI Windpad 110W with its Z-01 actually has a cooling fan), size and battery; while Z-01 will at least be decently powerful.

Either way, we can all go back to not caring and buying ARM-based products.

3) This is a stupid comparison. Z-01 is faster because AMD shoe-horned a netbook processor into a tablet form-factor: great if you want to be tethered to a wall all day or carry around a ginormous battery, not so great if you think tablet is synonymous with "iPad". Lincroft is at least makes a reasonable effort to keep TDP low (3W), but it's still significantly more power hungry than the ARM-based competition.

So, uh, congrats to AMD for winning a near-meaningless competition that will have near-as-makes-no-difference zero effect on the market?

PBSnipes

On point 3,

NVIDIA Tegra 2 (Model 290) based Qseven module consumes 5 watts, Link Most tablets uses Tegra 2 (Model 250).

"tethered to a wall all day or carry around a ginormous battery" is false.

Most the AMD Z-01/C-50's chip is mostly used by the GPU. AMD can easily reduce power consumption by switching to Radeon HD with 40 stream processors i.e. recycle Radeon HD 3400 instead of Radeon HD 5450's 80 stream processors design.Reducing power consumption to3.x watts can donecutting the GPU in half.

Should be we start performance benchmark wars between Z-01/C-50 vs ARM Cortex A9 +(PowerVR 543MP2 or Tegra 2 (Model 250))?

http://tweakers.net/nieuws/74844/computex-eerste-benchmarks-tonen-trage-atom-versie-honeycomb.html

My ACER Iconia W500 tablet (AMD C-50 APU low power edition**@ 1.0Ghz) scores 9206 points in CaffeineMark 3.0.

My ACER Iconia W500 tablet scores 1010.6 ms in SunSpider 0.9.1 i.e. beating ASUS Eee Transformer Pad (1876 ms).

Should we continue on Quake 3 benchmarks?

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I thought the C-50 and E-350 were their answer to atom? The latter of which already handily beats it.

gmaster456

AMD has replaced

1. C-50 with C-60.

2. E-350 with E-450.

3. Z-01 has replace C-50 in tablets.

So does this mean AMD are just enginerring their own test results to look better? You seem to bring up a lot of valid point so i'll go with AMD bending the rules a little to "smoke" Intel.JohnF111

Both Atom Pineview (Intel GMA 3150 IGP) and Atom Z670's PowerVR 535 @ 400Mhz(aka Intel GMA 600 IGP) get's killed by Radeon HD 6250M. Refer to 3DMarks 05/06 scores.

Atom's Intel GMA 3150 IGP's benchmark scores

Intel GMA 600 IGP's benchmark scores

AMD Radeon HD 6250M's benchmark scores

PS I do own Intel Atom N450 with Intel GMA 3150IGP basedtablet that overclocks to 1.8Ghz.

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My Acer Iconia W500 with Z-01 B0 stepping.

it is often said that if you want to make an impression you need to drag someone out of their bed and remind them of who you are. amd has certainly called intel out over the z-01 llano netbook apu.

ionusX

Z-01 uses "Ontario" type APU not "Llano" type APU.