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#1 GIJesse77
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I was wondering if i should go with a Laptop that has an AMD Processor or one with the Intel Core Duo 2?
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#2 slipknot-maggot
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INTEL FOR TEH WINZZZZ
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#3 dyproximy
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Intel
 
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#4 godofjell0
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Intel...
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#5 yellowjell0
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The Core 2 Duo would offer better performance. If you can pick up an AMD processor for cheaper, and don't need the best possible performance, they are still a decent option.
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#6 lionheart22
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definately intel
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#7 surferboyo
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arent amd traditionally better for gaming but intel is overall way better?
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#8 surferboyo
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sorry i say say intel

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#9 frost_mourne13
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I like AMD more, but the Core 2 Duos are better than the X2's. Now single cores...AMD has always had the lead, and the 64 and SC FX's are leagues ahead of Celeron D, Pentium 4 and D
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#10 jfelisario
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c2d's are the best bang for your bucks right now, i'd highly recommend it, monster overclockers too if you're into that too.
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#11 Wesker776
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I like AMD more, but the Core 2 Duos are better than the X2's. Now single cores...AMD has always had the lead, and the 64 and SC FX's are leagues ahead of Celeron D, Pentium 4 and Dfrost_mourne13
What? The Pentium 4 w/ HT can outperform the Athlon 64 single core, and the Celerons beat the Semprons with ease.
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#12 frost_mourne13
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1. Does it cost the same?...and plus, there is no way a Pentium 4 w HT (which is just hyperthreading) can be faster than a fx-55... 2. I meant that the 64 compared to a Celeron D... so nvm,
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#13 Generalkill8888
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I like AMD more, but the Core 2 Duos are better than the X2's. Now single cores...AMD has always had the lead, and the 64 and SC FX's are leagues ahead of Celeron D, Pentium 4 and Dfrost_mourne13
....Huh?

EDIT: Yeah..
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#14 frost_mourne13
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lol...Yeah, I was kinda rushed there...
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#15 Generalkill8888
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lol...Yeah, I was kinda rushed there...frost_mourne13
Yeah I saw that fast post and I was like O wait Ill edit :P
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[QUOTE="frost_mourne13"]I like AMD more, but the Core 2 Duos are better than the X2's. Now single cores...AMD has always had the lead, and the 64 and SC FX's are leagues ahead of Celeron D, Pentium 4 and DWesker776
What? The Pentium 4 w/ HT can outperform the Athlon 64 single core, and the Celerons beat the Semprons with ease.

Depends on which Athlon 64 you are talking about. Certainly not the FX series.
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#17 frost_mourne13
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I have a P4 2.66 with HT, and it is woefully slow compared to my Athlon 64 3800+, besides, Intel and AMD rate their CPU's differently. The 3800 performs at a Intel Hertz of 3.78 or so...
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#18 Prosercunus
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I guess I am a loyal intel customer but I have nothing really negative to say about AMD.
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#19 Wesker776
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[QUOTE="frost_mourne13"]1. Does it cost the same?...and plus, there is no way a Pentium 4 w HT (which is just hyperthreading) can be faster than a fx-55... 2. I meant that the 64 compared to a Celeron D... so nvm,

1. AMD single core CPUs cost a lot more than there Intel counter parts. I'm talking about the regular 500 and 600 series of processors as well. 2. I was comparing the lowest end to the lowest end. Celeron vs Sempron sounds fair to me.
[QUOTE="Wesker776"][QUOTE="frost_mourne13"]I like AMD more, but the Core 2 Duos are better than the X2's. Now single cores...AMD has always had the lead, and the 64 and SC FX's are leagues ahead of Celeron D, Pentium 4 and DCyborg-21
What? The Pentium 4 w/ HT can outperform the Athlon 64 single core, and the Celerons beat the Semprons with ease.

Depends on which Athlon 64 you are talking about. Certainly not the FX series.

I'm not including the EE or the FX single cores. I'm just talking about the regular Pentium 4s vs the regular Athlon 64s. The Pentium 4, despite being tarnished for its older brother, Pentium D, is not that bad of a single core processor. They're cheap, offer HT tech and perform pretty good.
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#20 Cyborg-21
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The problem with Pentium 4s is that they produce a lot of heat.
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#21 r3351925
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The problem with Pentium 4s is that they produce a lot of heat.Cyborg-21
yeah this is right, i dunno why?
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#22 Cyborg-21
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[QUOTE="Cyborg-21"]The problem with Pentium 4s is that they produce a lot of heat.r3351925
yeah this is right, i dunno why?

I think it's the Netburst Architecture itself. I mean, my P4 runs at 69 C on load !
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#23 Wartzay
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To me, it would depend on what they were offering for video cards with the laptops. If the options where C2D + radeon x1300 vrs athlon64 x2 3800+ + mobility 7900gs, I would take the AMD laptop.

Its all about a balance of parts. A dreamworld processor is useless without the ram and video card to back it up.

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#24 r3351925
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[QUOTE="r3351925"][QUOTE="Cyborg-21"]The problem with Pentium 4s is that they produce a lot of heat.Cyborg-21
yeah this is right, i dunno why?

I think it's the Netburst Architecture itself. I mean, my P4 runs at 69 C on load !

i dont think so cause c my pd 945 never passed 39 under load.
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#25 Cyborg-21
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[QUOTE="Cyborg-21"][QUOTE="r3351925"][QUOTE="Cyborg-21"]The problem with Pentium 4s is that they produce a lot of heat.r3351925
yeah this is right, i dunno why?

I think it's the Netburst Architecture itself. I mean, my P4 runs at 69 C on load !

i dont think so cause c my pd 945 never passed 39 under load.

That's Pentium D - Dual Core. We are talking about the single-core Pentium 4 Processors.
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WTF? Dual core cooler than a single :o
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#27 Cyborg-21
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WTF? Dual core cooler than a single :oX360PS3AMD05
Yep. Just goes to show how much processor architecture improved. The Pentium 4s, especially ones based on the Prescott core, literally operate at 70 C for years and years.
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#28 habitat
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Are you building a budget rig?  AMD for budget, intel otherwise.  Or...if you wait a month or so the Core 2 Duos are supposed to drop in price and you can have a solid budget intel system thats better than the budget AMD system.

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#29 r3351925
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Even that pentium D is dual core n built on netburst its still cool really shows that intel is improving everything.
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#30 -GeordiLaForge-
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[QUOTE="frost_mourne13"]I like AMD more, but the Core 2 Duos are better than the X2's. Now single cores...AMD has always had the lead, and the 64 and SC FX's are leagues ahead of Celeron D, Pentium 4 and DWesker776
What? The Pentium 4 w/ HT can outperform the Athlon 64 single core, and the Celerons beat the Semprons with ease.

The Athlon 64 architecture was much better. The only time that Pentium 4's outperformed them was when they were clocked really high. Clock for clock, Athlon 64's outperform ANY Pentium 4's...
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#31 -GeordiLaForge-
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Even that pentium D is dual core n built on netburst its still cool really shows that intel is improving everything.r3351925
It's mainly the manufacturing process. When the components on the die are smaller, less electricity moves through them faster, which produces faster possible speeds and reduces heat.
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#32 Cyborg-21
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[QUOTE="r3351925"]Even that pentium D is dual core n built on netburst its still cool really shows that intel is improving everything.-GeordiLaForge-
It's mainly the manufacturing process. When the components on the die are smaller, less electricity moves through them faster, which produces faster possible speeds and reduces heat.

Yeah. Correct me if I am wrong - but the Pentium D uses 90nm does it not ?
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#33 -GeordiLaForge-
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[QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"][QUOTE="r3351925"]Even that pentium D is dual core n built on netburst its still cool really shows that intel is improving everything.Cyborg-21
It's mainly the manufacturing process. When the components on the die are smaller, less electricity moves through them faster, which produces faster possible speeds and reduces heat.

Yeah. Correct me if I am wrong - but the Pentium D uses 90nm does it not ?

The die size of the Pentium D's are down to 65nm, but the older ones used a 90nm die.
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#34 Cyborg-21
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And the Pentium 4 I think was using 130 nm.
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#35 r3351925
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my pentium d 945 is presler 65nm die.
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#36 -GeordiLaForge-
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my pentium d 945 is presler 65nm die.r3351925
Have you tried overclocking it?
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#37 Cyborg-21
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How good are the Pentium D 9 series reference HSFs ?
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#38 r3351925
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sorry for not replying so fast, i wasnt at home,
How good are the Pentium D 9 series reference HSFs ?Cyborg-21
for u cyborg u can check ur mail cause i had sent u a screenshot of how good HSFs of pd 945 r on ur demand, in winter it runs under load at 25 C.
[QUOTE="r3351925"]my pentium d 945 is presler 65nm die.-GeordiLaForge-
Have you tried overclocking it?

about overclocking i reached 4.2 stable with stock heat sink, but i never use it at that speed because i think its overstressing the ram, but there is no thermal problems after ocing, it runs really cool.