Amd Phenom II 940 with Asus M4A79 Deluxe mb overclocking

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#1 drkstorm37
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I am just learning how to overclock my rig and would like anyones input on how to do it properly I have read many guides online and they all say to change different things in bios to different settings but most of them are so confusing I do not understand them, I have got it overclocked some using the cpu multiplier and cpu voltage and it seems stable but I would like to get more out of it if I could, any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated, thank you

My specs are Amd Phenom II 940 with Asus M4A79 Deluxe mb with a coolermaster v8 if you would like any other information on my rig please just let me know, thank you

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#2 04dcarraher
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Well dont go pass 3.6-3.8 Ghz with stock cooler also dont go above 1.55v for the cpu.
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I am not using the stock cooler, I have the CoolerMaster v8 heatsink/fan installed on it, it runs alot cooler then stock,

I have an idle temp of 23c and a full load temp with prime95 for 8 hours at 38c with everything set default in bios

with it overclocked using the cpu multiplier at 17.5x and the cpu volt at 1.42 I have it at 3.6GHz with the idle temp at 28c and the full load temp with prime95 at 46c, just thought that since my temps where stillgood I might be able to get a little more out of the cpu, thanks

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#4 gamerloks
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first of all what ram are you using if its 800Mhz set the cpu frequency to 250 that way your ram will run at 1000Mhz after this set your multiplier to 15 and you will get 3.75Ghz set the voltage to 1.47 volts and the ram at 2.02 volts the north bridge set it at 1.35 and if you want the 4Ghz just up the cpu volts to 1.5 and you are set remember to watch your temps im at 3.75 in stock cooler at no more than 51C after 8hours of playing
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#5 drkstorm37
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the Ram is OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066

I tried the multiplier at 15x before and it dropped me back down to 3.0GHZ

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^^^ for the post above. Remember that all computers are different even though u might have the same cpu doesnt mean hell get the same results. BUT, i think its worth a try.

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#7 gamerloks
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^^^ for the post above. Remember that all computers are different even though u might have the same cpu doesnt mean hell get the same results. BUT, i think its worth a try.

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like you said is worth the try and since your ram is 1066 if you set the cpu frequency to 250 the ram is going to be runing at 2100Mhz wich is not going to work out so lower the cpu frequency to 280 and the multiplier to 14.5 that way your ram runs at 1120 and the cpu at 4Ghz just remember to se the ram voltage to 2.02 votls
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The lower I go with the multiplier the slower my cpu speed is.... and my NB does not have 1.35 it goes in incriments of .02
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set your fsb to like 100 or 150 something low like that. then turn your multiplier up as high as it goes. then slowly increase your fsb by 10, then restart and go into windows and do superpi and memtests stuff like that

i havn't overclocked a quadcore so there might be a few things that differ with that. but the above is the really basic way of overclocking.

once you start failing superpi, you can raise your volts on your cpu by the smallest amount at a time. up to whatever the safe limit is(do a google search on your cpu)

after each voltage increase, slowly increase your fsb until you find out how much the voltage increase helped. when you get to the point where it doesn't boost your fsb much or at all, then you stop. again don't pass your safe limit on the voltage.

also each time during all this that you get into windows to run superpi and memtest, you should also run prime95 torture test and see how hot your cpu and motherboard get during the test. and of course you'll want to find out how hot your cpu can safely get

my amd64 3000+ which is a really old cpu, gets up to 49C on full load overclocked from 1800Mhz to 2430Mhz which is a pretty decent overclock. at idle its only 32C

but i do have a really nice heatsink, zalman 100% copper. can't remember the model tho

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my Multiplier goes to 35x and I know it will never boot at that high of a number since I cannot get it to boot at 19x, and my fsb only goes as low as 200
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#12 machiavell8x8
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it should go lower than 200, im betting there is a setting in your bios that has it locked to match your ram. once you undo that it should go lower. and i had no idea your multiplier goes all the way up to 35x lol i would try 18 or 17x at 200fsb if you can get your fsb lower. when you get it into windows do a sandra benchmark, and a 3dmark , as well as your stability tests i mentioned.

then try the opposite, high fsb and lower multiplier, and then check your 3dmark and sandra again. see which one gives the better performance(someone once told me some people like to have high fsb rather than high clock) so im not sure which is actually better. id start out with something like 260fsb x 8x .

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oh i just reread the last couple posts, the reason your clock goes down when you lower the multiplier is because you havn't been increaseing the fsb, or at least you havn't posted that you did yet anyway
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#14 drkstorm37
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when I increase the FSB my ram goes above the 1066 and it will not boot with the fsb above 210
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#15 machiavell8x8
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whats your multiplier at when you are doing this, we need all the numbers
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#16 machiavell8x8
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also whats your timings set at?
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#17 drkstorm37
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even if I have my multiplier at 15x which is default it will not boot with fsb at 210 if I turn my multiplier down to about 10x it will boot, I found a guide on overclockers forum that tests the max oc of every component on your rig so I am going to print that off and try each thing to see where the max settings are at so I have some idea what level will cause it to be unstable Thanks for your help
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im starting to think your going to need better ram if you plan to overclock
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the Ram is OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 i purchased this ram because it was recomended on this forum..
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#20 beefdog
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The reason for 1066 ram is to turn it down to 800 and up the fsb til the ram hits 1066....its fine.

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#21 drkstorm37
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Thanks for telling me about turnind down the ram to 800 and up the fsb, I had not seen that in any of the guides and that makes sence and will help alot,
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The reason for 1066 ram is to turn it down to 800 and up the fsb til the ram hits 1066....its fine.

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do you know why that is? i thought the fsb governed the speed of the ram, so why does the motherboard even have an option for that? also if he had it set to 1066 should his fsb be running at like 250 or something? i know your right its just i didn't realize doing that actually effected the ram speed. on my amd64 3000+ i had 500mhz ram installed and i had to do the same thing, it won't boot when i set it to 500mhz nomatter what, but if i set it to 400mhz then i can crank my fsb up to 270 which shows my ram speed as 270 inside cpuz, which im told you have to double since its ddr putting it at 540mhz so yah whats actually happening?
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#23 drkstorm37
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Thanks to everyones suggestions and alot of reading guides online I have my Phenom II 940 running at 3.72GHz and it seems to be pretty stable right now, I ran Prime95 for 2 hours and my temps where 31c idle and topped out at 46c under full load. I will run it for longer tonight and also run a few other test programs just to make sure before I try to go any higher

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superpi is a really quick test, run it at 16k 1mb 16mb and then 32mb, or you can just skip to the 32mb. and for a real test run prime95 in the background and wait till your temps max out, then run superpi. you might have to find a special version of superpi to work with quadcores im not sure so what multiplier did you end up putting it on to get 3.72ghz
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#25 drkstorm37
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I have the multiplier on 15.5x the fsb at 250 and the cpu v at 1.42, I think I can still get more out of the fsb since I am only at 840 on it but I want to make sure it is real stable where it is at..
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#26 beefdog
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[QUOTE="beefdog"]

The reason for 1066 ram is to turn it down to 800 and up the fsb til the ram hits 1066....its fine.

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do you know why that is? i thought the fsb governed the speed of the ram, so why does the motherboard even have an option for that? also if he had it set to 1066 should his fsb be running at like 250 or something? i know your right its just i didn't realize doing that actually effected the ram speed. on my amd64 3000+ i had 500mhz ram installed and i had to do the same thing, it won't boot when i set it to 500mhz nomatter what, but if i set it to 400mhz then i can crank my fsb up to 270 which shows my ram speed as 270 inside cpuz, which im told you have to double since its ddr putting it at 540mhz so yah whats actually happening?

The ram speed is controlled by the fsb, so is the ht link and northbridge speed. The higher the fsb, the higher the ram speed. His problem was the ram is only guranteed up to 1066. Ocz isnt great for overclocking ram. So he has to lower it because at 210 fsb the ram was running at 1100 mhz+. If it was crucial ballistix it would be fine (mine goes over 1100mhz). Easiest way to oc is by multiplier....but to get max you have to play with both....not really sure why everything goes up with the fsb being increased....guess there linked together.