Anti american games?

Ok question time..any game out their which is like completely anti american?i mean americans are projected as the bad guys??we have tons of games in wich germans,russians,japs,chinese are projected as bad guys..but their must be a german or russian developer out their who has created a game in which americans are the bad guys....any idea?oh by the way iam not talking about games which have dual single player missions,in wich u can play as americans or say russian for example...iam talking about a full fledged anti american game.

Why do you ask,are you wanting to cause a full-fledged flame war?

I'm not aware of any but if there were, I doubt it would ever get published in North America.

EDIT: Scratch that, I just remembered these.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6151992.html

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6159191.html

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6157912.html

No game has ever been anti-German, Russian, Japanese, or Chinese. A game like that would be a hate game, and I serioulsy doubt that it would not be banned in every country on earth, much less released. If you think a game like Company of Heroes is trying to make Germans out to be completely evil, you have a problem.

What I think is true is that Americans are rarely depicted as evil in modern games, unless of course the protagonist is American himself. I think that has a lot to do with today's political environment, and the fact that the majority of games today are made in the western countries or countries that have adopted a large amount of western culture. But that very well may change soon, seeing as how very unpopular the U.S. is getting with other countries.:?

Half-Life?

That game portrayed the US Marines as a clean up crew of overzealous thugs trying to exterminate everything and everyone at Black Mesa. Maybe not anti-American, but American soldiers were definitely the bad guys. Although in Half-Life it was meant to be in line with zombie/horror movie conventions, where the military always shows up and everything gets much worse.

ok i never said anything like germans were potrayed as evil in company of heroes..but if a german would play company of heroes single player..he would have a problem with i.e if he is one of those pepole who can get offended even by a game.when i say anti something i expect u people to understand what i ment..now iam going to make it very simple is their a game out their which is something like a company of heroes but you play against the american army..and iam talking about the whole single player mission..biswajit90210

The Company of heroes expansion has a full German campaign. And please don't mistake Germans for Nazi's. I doubt there's a "German" that would be offended by CoH or anything that depicts WW2 from either side.

I have yet to play a game that presents anti-nationale propaganda and I'm pretty damn good at seeing propaganda where it's at. Are you sure you aren't just looking for a game that presents the other untold side of the struggle? Those are far and few. Why? Because western culture celebrates its own stories and victories as any culture would. And since most game companies are setup in the western world go figure. They want to tell their stories not the stories of others.Grim_Wolf88

'....I'm pretty damn good at seeing propaganda where it's at.'

No you're not. I think u suck at seeing propaganda.

play Call of Duty 4? in that story the Middle easterners are clearly the bad guys and the us/west are the knights in shining armor.

the taxi ride in the beginning with the menacing looking arab (i'm only typing arab b/c middle easterner is too damn much to type). the 'evil' arab's launching a nuclear explosion. u kill an arab at the end of the game to be the hero.

cod4 is a nationalist game against middle-easterners and arabs if there ever was one.

if u can't see that then ur in clear denial.

Winners write history. And eh... make games. That's why you don't see "anti-American" games. Even if there are American villains in the game, an American hard ass is usually the one that fixes the problem. I'd love to see a game that ridicules Americans the same way Koreans are ridiculed in Crysis. Arabs and Russians are made into blood thirsty terrorists in almost every modern shooter. I'd LOVE to see the other side of the story. Thing is, devs do not dare to make such games, they are too afraid the American market will be offended.
artur79

True. The American market is huge, and devs and publishers dare not risk anything.

interesting point of views,look people this wasnt supposed to go this way i can see that some of you find this topic a little irritating,thats not what i was looking for..all i wanted to know was has any other country ever developed a game in which america is projected as say the bad guys..thats all biswajit90210

al queda (the real life terrorist organization) 'developed' (it was actually a mod) a game where the americans were the bad guys. i forgot what the game was called. but look it up on google. there's videos of the game on youtube. from what i've seen the game really sucks, graphics a worse than counterstrike 1.6.

[QUOTE="Grim_Wolf88"]I have yet to play a game that presents anti-nationale propaganda and I'm pretty damn good at seeing propaganda where it's at. Are you sure you aren't just looking for a game that presents the other untold side of the struggle? Those are far and few. Why? Because western culture celebrates its own stories and victories as any culture would. And since most game companies are setup in the western world go figure. They want to tell their stories not the stories of others.xuimod

'....I'm pretty damn good at seeing propaganda where it's at.'

No you're not. I think u suck at seeing propaganda.

play Call of Duty 4? in that story the Middle easterners are clearly the bad guys and the us/west are the knights in shining armor.

the taxi ride in the beginning with the menacing looking arab (i'm only typing arab b/c middle easterner is too damn much to type). the 'evil' arab's launching a nuclear explosion. u kill an arab at the end of the game to be the hero.

cod4 is a nationalist game against middle-easterners and arabs if there ever was one.

if u can't see that then ur in clear denial.

The reason there arabs is because the game is set in the middle east. They also happen to be terrorist which is why you're against them. You're not against their nation as you are trying to prove. You are against a terrorist uprising. Hell, they went out of there way to make sure that they didn't name the specific country the story takes place in over in the middle east. The propaganda that is present is not anti-nationalist as you are trying to state. Setting things straight, I stated that there was NO ANTI-NATIONALIST PROPAGANDA. I did not however deny that propaganda was used. There's a differance.

[QUOTE="xuimod"]

[QUOTE="Grim_Wolf88"]I have yet to play a game that presents anti-nationale propaganda and I'm pretty damn good at seeing propaganda where it's at. Are you sure you aren't just looking for a game that presents the other untold side of the struggle? Those are far and few. Why? Because western culture celebrates its own stories and victories as any culture would. And since most game companies are setup in the western world go figure. They want to tell their stories not the stories of others.Grim_Wolf88

'....I'm pretty damn good at seeing propaganda where it's at.'

No you're not. I think u suck at seeing propaganda.

play Call of Duty 4? in that story the Middle easterners are clearly the bad guys and the us/west are the knights in shining armor.

the taxi ride in the beginning with the menacing looking arab (i'm only typing arab b/c middle easterner is too damn much to type). the 'evil' arab's launching a nuclear explosion. u kill an arab at the end of the game to be the hero.

cod4 is a nationalist game against middle-easterners and arabs if there ever was one.

if u can't see that then ur in clear denial.

The reason there arabs is because the game is set in the middle east. They also happen to be terrorist which is why you're against them. You're not against their nation as you are trying to prove. You are against a terrorist uprising. Hell, they went out of there way to make sure that they didn't name the specific country the story takes place in over in the middle east. The propaganda that is present is not anti-nationalist as you are trying to state. Setting things straight, I stated that there was NO ANTI-NATIONALIST PROPAGANDA. I did not however deny that propaganda was used. There's a differance.

no nation was mentioned? that's just semantics. cod4 pretty much painted all middle easterners as bad guys. there wasn't one middle easterner in cod4 that was 'good', not one that was on the us side (well aside from the president who got killed in the beginning but u couldn't even see his face; the only arab faces in cod4 were doing bad things).

its like saying there's a game came out about invading a country called 'Amernica' who has a president called 'President Shrub' (who sounds and looks exactly like president Bush) but saying this is a fictional country so its all good.

those panzy ass mother F**** can only make games cant hurt US in real life so they satisfy themselves virtually!!!!biswajit90210

have u forgetten about 9/11? that hurt the US pretty bad. the US hasn't been the same country since, its been a noticably weaker country since IMO.

[QUOTE="Grim_Wolf88"][QUOTE="xuimod"]

[QUOTE="Grim_Wolf88"]I have yet to play a game that presents anti-nationale propaganda and I'm pretty damn good at seeing propaganda where it's at. Are you sure you aren't just looking for a game that presents the other untold side of the struggle? Those are far and few. Why? Because western culture celebrates its own stories and victories as any culture would. And since most game companies are setup in the western world go figure. They want to tell their stories not the stories of others.xuimod

'....I'm pretty damn good at seeing propaganda where it's at.'

No you're not. I think u suck at seeing propaganda.

play Call of Duty 4? in that story the Middle easterners are clearly the bad guys and the us/west are the knights in shining armor.

the taxi ride in the beginning with the menacing looking arab (i'm only typing arab b/c middle easterner is too damn much to type). the 'evil' arab's launching a nuclear explosion. u kill an arab at the end of the game to be the hero.

cod4 is a nationalist game against middle-easterners and arabs if there ever was one.

if u can't see that then ur in clear denial.

The reason there arabs is because the game is set in the middle east. They also happen to be terrorist which is why you're against them. You're not against their nation as you are trying to prove. You are against a terrorist uprising. Hell, they went out of there way to make sure that they didn't name the specific country the story takes place in over in the middle east. The propaganda that is present is not anti-nationalist as you are trying to state. Setting things straight, I stated that there was NO ANTI-NATIONALIST PROPAGANDA. I did not however deny that propaganda was used. There's a differance.

no nation was mentioned? that's just semantics. cod4 pretty much painted all middle easterners as bad guys. there wasn't one middle easterner in cod4 that was 'good', not one that was on the us side (well aside from the president who got killed in the beginning but u couldn't even see his face; the only arab faces in cod4 were doing bad things).

its like saying there's a game came out about invading a country called 'Amernica' who has a president called 'President Shrub' (who sounds and looks exactly like president Bush) but saying this is a fictional country so its all good.

There never was a fictional country. It just went unnamed. Semantics? That word does not pertain to no country being named. But I'll ask you this since I still understand what you meant. What symbol or sign was used to form a representation that middle easteners were bad or evil? There were other good middle easterners by the way. You know what happened to them? They were getting run down in the streets and killed if you payed any attention to the game.

Your example is bad too as you stated that the country is called America. If I'm correct their is only one country with America in its name. That makes the game directly anti-american. CoD4 does not do this. Only the president is fictional in your example. And to relate this to the leader of the in-game terrorist looking and sounding like any terrorist leader is reaching. Or just being stereotypical as all foreigners sound alike...

[QUOTE="biswajit90210"]those panzy ass mother F**** can only make games cant hurt US in real life so they satisfy themselves virtually!!!!xuimod

have u forgetten about 9/11? that hurt the US pretty bad. the US hasn't been the same country since, its been a noticably weaker country since IMO.

i think US just got stornger after 9/11 ok we are so going off topic....biswajit90210

It was close to being off topic to begin with, IMO. This thread is just begging to turn into a pointless political flamewar.