Any News On the GTX 690?

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#1 Snaptrap
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Is there even going to be one? I had to remove one one my 580's today and that was a pain to do with the liquid inside it so I want to trade up asap. Back to air cooling unless there's a better way to remove them. Anyway, I'm hoping someone has news on the release or specs on the 690.

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#2 GS550L
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I've heard that Koolance makes some pretty good quick-disconnect fittings that spill only a couple of drops of water. I haven't tried them personally though (they're pretty pricey at around $20 a set, or around $40 for two loop break points).

Sorry, I don't know anything about the GTX 690 release.

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#3 configme
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I hope they don't make one, I just want the GK110 to come out.

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#4 Snaptrap
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I hope they don't make one, I just want the GK110 to come out.

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Isn't that suppose to be the GTX 685?

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#5 configme
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Or 780, which ever they decide to name it. Supposed to be produced around august.

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sorry bro, not going to happen, not unless AMD releases their 8970 and nvidia is forced to make a move. If for some reason nvidia DOES release the 690 then you can bet that it will cost $699 and their 695 (dual card) will cost $1099. A new record for video cards :D...Right now AMD is in a bad spot, they released a card that costs too much to make yet is out performed by a card that is cheaper to make. Even if AMD wanted to cut their prices, they wouldn't be able to do it by a large amount, similar to how AMD's bulldozer cpus are still over priced for what they offer. And if they can't cut their prices why would nvidia do such a thing? They'd scrap the 690 and make the 680 their new flagship and milk the profits from here to mexico.

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#7 Snaptrap
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I've heard that Koolance makes some pretty good quick-disconnect fittings that spill only a couple of drops of water. I haven't tried them personally though (they're pretty pricey at around $20 a set, or around $40 for two loop break points).

Sorry, I don't know anything about the GTX 690 release.

GS550L

A screw fell onto the top card and rolled under an opening in the back panel of the card. I tried looking for a tutorial but in the end I use a bucket and a lot of plastic wrap. I may have to add an easy to remove liquid cooling unit for just the cards and leave the Bigwater for the CPU.

EDIT: My friend told me that I could've use a magnet. lol.

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sorry bro, not going to happen, not unless AMD releases their 8970 and nvidia is forced to make a move. If for some reason nvidia DOES release the 690 then you can bet that it will cost $699 and their 695 (dual card) will cost $1099. A new record for video cards :D...Right now AMD is in a bad spot, they released a card that costs too much to make yet is out performed by a card that is cheaper to make. Even if AMD wanted to cut their prices, they wouldn't be able to do it by a large amount, similar to how AMD's bulldozer cpus are still over priced for what they offer. And if they can't cut their prices why would nvidia do such a thing? They'd scrap the 690 and make the 680 their new flagship and milk the profits from here to mexico.

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Maybe to take a greater advantage of the situation? I would.

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sorry bro, not going to happen, not unless AMD releases their 8970 and nvidia is forced to make a move. If for some reason nvidia DOES release the 690 then you can bet that it will cost $699 and their 695 (dual card) will cost $1099. A new record for video cards :D...Right now AMD is in a bad spot, they released a card that costs too much to make yet is out performed by a card that is cheaper to make. Even if AMD wanted to cut their prices, they wouldn't be able to do it by a large amount, similar to how AMD's bulldozer cpus are still over priced for what they offer. And if they can't cut their prices why would nvidia do such a thing? They'd scrap the 690 and make the 680 their new flagship and milk the profits from here to mexico.

blaznwiipspman1

I can think of 1 very good reason for Nvidia to release GK110. Right now AMD has slightly better offerings up and down the midrange, with their HD7000's going against Nvidia's "last year's" GTX 500's. If GK110 takes over as the high-end single GPU chip, they can then move the current, cheap to produce GTX 680 down the product line to annihilate the rest of the AMD upper midrange/lower high-end lineup. Just imagine a $350 or $400 GTX 680 matching up with the HD7870 and 7950. AMD would have to drop their prices. It would be a great scenario for consumers.

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[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

sorry bro, not going to happen, not unless AMD releases their 8970 and nvidia is forced to make a move. If for some reason nvidia DOES release the 690 then you can bet that it will cost $699 and their 695 (dual card) will cost $1099. A new record for video cards :D...Right now AMD is in a bad spot, they released a card that costs too much to make yet is out performed by a card that is cheaper to make. Even if AMD wanted to cut their prices, they wouldn't be able to do it by a large amount, similar to how AMD's bulldozer cpus are still over priced for what they offer. And if they can't cut their prices why would nvidia do such a thing? They'd scrap the 690 and make the 680 their new flagship and milk the profits from here to mexico.

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I can think of 1 very good reason for Nvidia to release GK110. Right now AMD has slightly better offerings up and down the midrange, with their HD7000's going against Nvidia's "last year's" GTX 500's. If GK110 takes over as the high-end single GPU chip, they can then move the current, cheap to produce GTX 680 down the product line to annihilate the rest of the AMD upper midrange/lower high-end lineup. Just imagine a $350 or $400 GTX 680 matching up with the HD7870 and 7950. AMD would have to drop their prices. It would be a great scenario for consumers.

that makes sense, they could refresh their mid range lineup on the of the 500 series onto the 22nm, match or slightly beat AMD's offering. Also like I said AMD won't cut prices that it would give them a loss, just like the flopdozer is still priced at $240 even though its craptastic at best compared to the intel core i5 2500k. We're not going to see competitive prices this time around folks...competitive pricing is only available when there are competetive products. Since that is not the case here, don't hold your breath for a price drop.

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[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

sorry bro, not going to happen, not unless AMD releases their 8970 and nvidia is forced to make a move. If for some reason nvidia DOES release the 690 then you can bet that it will cost $699 and their 695 (dual card) will cost $1099. A new record for video cards :D...Right now AMD is in a bad spot, they released a card that costs too much to make yet is out performed by a card that is cheaper to make. Even if AMD wanted to cut their prices, they wouldn't be able to do it by a large amount, similar to how AMD's bulldozer cpus are still over priced for what they offer. And if they can't cut their prices why would nvidia do such a thing? They'd scrap the 690 and make the 680 their new flagship and milk the profits from here to mexico.

Snaptrap

Maybe to take a greater advantage of the situation? I would.

you don't understand how businesses work....if nvidia can milk something to make as much money as possible from it they will. There is no winning or losing in business, just $$ dollar bills.

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[QUOTE="Snaptrap"]

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

sorry bro, not going to happen, not unless AMD releases their 8970 and nvidia is forced to make a move. If for some reason nvidia DOES release the 690 then you can bet that it will cost $699 and their 695 (dual card) will cost $1099. A new record for video cards :D...Right now AMD is in a bad spot, they released a card that costs too much to make yet is out performed by a card that is cheaper to make. Even if AMD wanted to cut their prices, they wouldn't be able to do it by a large amount, similar to how AMD's bulldozer cpus are still over priced for what they offer. And if they can't cut their prices why would nvidia do such a thing? They'd scrap the 690 and make the 680 their new flagship and milk the profits from here to mexico.

blaznwiipspman1

Maybe to take a greater advantage of the situation? I would.

you don't understand how businesses work....if nvidia can milk something to make as much money as possible from it they will. There is no winning or losing in business, just $$ dollar bills.

Normally I would agree with that. However, whether it's car performance or GPU peformance, companies pride themselves on having "the fastest" or "the most powerful" on the market. It's a prestige thing. That's why you see AMD and Nvidia come out with super high-end dual-gpu cards that are really expensive to make, and sometimes don't make them much money. Car companies come out with "halo cars" that they lose money on every time they sell one, but it raises their company prestige to have them on the streets. A side effect of Nvidia releasing GK110 within this generation would be that their entire lineup with gain prestige from it.. not to mention the GTX 680 being pushed down into the midrange to slaughter the HD7800's and 7950. I'm not saying that they will do this for sure, but it would make a lot of sense if they want to put their foot on AMD's neck.

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#13 Snaptrap
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[QUOTE="Snaptrap"]

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

sorry bro, not going to happen, not unless AMD releases their 8970 and nvidia is forced to make a move. If for some reason nvidia DOES release the 690 then you can bet that it will cost $699 and their 695 (dual card) will cost $1099. A new record for video cards :D...Right now AMD is in a bad spot, they released a card that costs too much to make yet is out performed by a card that is cheaper to make. Even if AMD wanted to cut their prices, they wouldn't be able to do it by a large amount, similar to how AMD's bulldozer cpus are still over priced for what they offer. And if they can't cut their prices why would nvidia do such a thing? They'd scrap the 690 and make the 680 their new flagship and milk the profits from here to mexico.

blaznwiipspman1

Maybe to take a greater advantage of the situation? I would.

you don't understand how businesses work....if nvidia can milk something to make as much money as possible from it they will. There is no winning or losing in business, just $$ dollar bills.

Not all businesses think like Activision or Microsoft and not all of them function under the same philosphy. Yeah, there is winning and losing when your compeition looks to put you out and gain a monopoly. Then they can price whatever they want.

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[QUOTE="Snaptrap"]

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

sorry bro, not going to happen, not unless AMD releases their 8970 and nvidia is forced to make a move. If for some reason nvidia DOES release the 690 then you can bet that it will cost $699 and their 695 (dual card) will cost $1099. A new record for video cards :D...Right now AMD is in a bad spot, they released a card that costs too much to make yet is out performed by a card that is cheaper to make. Even if AMD wanted to cut their prices, they wouldn't be able to do it by a large amount, similar to how AMD's bulldozer cpus are still over priced for what they offer. And if they can't cut their prices why would nvidia do such a thing? They'd scrap the 690 and make the 680 their new flagship and milk the profits from here to mexico.

blaznwiipspman1

Maybe to take a greater advantage of the situation? I would.

you don't understand how businesses work....if nvidia can milk something to make as much money as possible from it they will. There is no winning or losing in business, just $$ dollar bills.

Technically, there are winners and losers in business:

Netflix: winner

Blockbuster/Hollywood Video: losers

Winners take over marketshare and generate income, losers go bankrupt.

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[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

[QUOTE="Snaptrap"]

Maybe to take a greater advantage of the situation? I would.

hartsickdiscipl

you don't understand how businesses work....if nvidia can milk something to make as much money as possible from it they will. There is no winning or losing in business, just $$ dollar bills.

Normally I would agree with that. However, whether it's car performance or GPU peformance, companies pride themselves on having "the fastest" or "the most powerful" on the market. It's a prestige thing. That's why you see AMD and Nvidia come out with super high-end dual-gpu cards that are really expensive to make, and sometimes don't make them much money. Car companies come out with "halo cars" that they lose money on every time they sell one, but it raises their company prestige to have them on the streets. A side effect of Nvidia releasing GK110 within this generation would be that their entire lineup with gain prestige from it.. not to mention the GTX 680 being pushed down into the midrange to slaughter the HD7800's and 7950. I'm not saying that they will do this for sure, but it would make a lot of sense if they want to put their foot on AMD's neck.

nvidia wouldnt be able to drop the price of the 680gtx that much, id say it would be possible to drop to $400, but below that would be difficult. Im guessing the radeon 7870 could drop to $300 if necessary. Also nvidia is getting demolished with its craptastic results with tegra....the fish are just alot bigger in the ARM market than AMD is, and they won't be able to do nearly as well., so i doubt nvidia will want "prestige", as much $$ profit $$ to act as a buffer in case they need it. Not to mention intel is also coming up with its ivy bridge processors and hd4000 series of graphics cards...which believe it or not are at the level of the 5670 gaming wise. Id say samsung and apple already have their foots on nvidias neck, and if you count intel coming up as well, things don't look great for either nvidia or AMD.

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[QUOTE="GS550L"]

I've heard that Koolance makes some pretty good quick-disconnect fittings that spill only a couple of drops of water. I haven't tried them personally though (they're pretty pricey at around $20 a set, or around $40 for two loop break points).

Sorry, I don't know anything about the GTX 690 release.

Snaptrap

A screw fell onto the top card and rolled under an opening in the back panel of the card. I tried looking for a tutorial but in the end I use a bucket and a lot of plastic wrap. I may have to add an easy to remove liquid cooling unit for just the cards and leave the Bigwater for the CPU.

EDIT: My friend told me that I could've use a magnet. lol.

I normally put a cheap valve at the lowest point of my loop to make draining easier. I think you can purchase an in-line drain valve for pretty cheap that'll do the job; give me a couple of minutes and I'll try to link one.

--EDIT-- Here's one. I hope you don't mind, it's another Koolance product. You can do the same thing with a regular T-line and a fillport if you happen to have those parts laying around, though the finish wont look quite as nice :P

If you don't mind drilling holes into your case, you could mount a drain port at the bottom of your case as a more rigid, permanent solution.

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I normally put a cheap valve at the lowest point of my loop to make draining easier. I think you can purchase an in-line drain valve for pretty cheap that'll do the job; give me a couple of minutes and I'll try to link one.

--EDIT-- Here's one. I hope you don't mind, it's another Koolance product. You can do the same thing with a regular T-line and a fillport if you happen to have those parts laying around, though the finish wont look quite as nice :P

If you don't mind drilling holes into your case, you could mount put a drain port at the bottom of your case as a more rigid, permanent solution.

GS550L

That's a perfect 3/8" fit. I'll figure out a way to set that so I don't have to drill. This is my first cooling system so I'm unaware of special parts. I guess it's only logical that they would exist unless everyone resorts to using a bucket and plastic wrap. Perhaps I'll just hang on to these cards. Thanks!

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Is there even going to be one? I had to remove one one my 580's today and that was a pain to do with the liquid inside it so I want to trade up asap. Back to air cooling unless there's a better way to remove them. Anyway, I'm hoping someone has news on the release or specs on the 690.

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The main question is when will the 660 series be out.. Still waiting. :(
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i think amd is going to catch them in a vice. nvidia will likely set the gtx 690 out and beat the 7990.. but due to amd's launch price of $900 it would force places that price based on preformance to sell it at 1000 bucks.. menaing next to nobody will be buying a 690 @ retail and alot less than they normally would online.

memoryexpress and cbit both price based on preformance.. not the companies wishes. as a result expect a 1000 dollar gtx 690 somewhere XD

its going to be the case of a cire i7 neahelm ee all over again XD

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i think amd is going to catch them in a vice. nvidia will likely set the gtx 690 out and beat the 7990.. but due to amd's launch price of $900 it would force places that price based on preformance to sell it at 1000 bucks.. menaing next to nobody will be buying a 690 @ retail and alot less than they normally would online.

memoryexpress and cbit both price based on preformance.. not the companies wishes. as a result expect a 1000 dollar gtx 690 somewhere XD

its going to be the case of a cire i7 neahelm ee all over again XD

ionusX

My guess is that by the time the 690 arrives, they be able to price it the same as what the 590 was upon release and drop the prices of current cards. $1000 is a bit rich for a single card.

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i think amd is going to catch them in a vice. nvidia will likely set the gtx 690 out and beat the 7990.. but due to amd's launch price of $900 it would force places that price based on preformance to sell it at 1000 bucks.. menaing next to nobody will be buying a 690 @ retail and alot less than they normally would online.

memoryexpress and cbit both price based on preformance.. not the companies wishes. as a result expect a 1000 dollar gtx 690 somewhere XD

its going to be the case of a cire i7 neahelm ee all over again XD

Snaptrap

My guess is that by the time the 690 arrives, they be able to price it the same as what the 590 was upon release and drop the prices of current cards. $1000 is a bit rich for a single card.

doubtful since it launches sometimes this month XD

1000 for a dual gpu is pretty realistic considering this is nvidia were talking about..XD

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#22 Snaptrap
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doubtful since it launches sometimes this month XD

1000 for a dual gpu is pretty realistic considering this is nvidia were talking about..XD

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This month? Wow. Do you have a link to that info?

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#23 ionusX
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[QUOTE="ionusX"]doubtful since it launches sometimes this month XD

1000 for a dual gpu is pretty realistic considering this is nvidia were talking about..XD

Snaptrap

This month? Wow. Do you have a link to that info?

amd wants to launch the 7990 the same month or within the same 30 days as nvidia's dual gpu. currently its slated for end of april start of may.. hd 7990 is set for april 12.. techpowerup and fudzilla both have stories on this