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#1 Kelllvin
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Or is it just me?

I got a new com last month ago.

This is my specs:

POV 8800GTS 320MB

E6600 2.4 oc to 3.2ghz

4GIGS APACER DDR2800

410GIG HDD

I've just installed Vista Home Premium yesterday...so I started to install Company of Heroes( patched to the latest version v1.71) and Lost Planet DX10.....

So I tried to play Company of Heroes in DX10 MAX OUT except shadows to off(cause I hate shadows) and Texture and Terrian set to Ultra. It started to lag like crazy!!!!!!

I updated my nvdia driver and everything else.

Does anyone knows the cause of this problem??

My guess is the 8800GTS 320MB.

Is the video ram too small for games coming out on DX10???

Does Company of Heroes use more than 320MB VRAM whenMAX out on DX10????

So is the 8800GTS 320MB a waste or is it just the optimization problem on Vista?????

Please Reply...

Really upset....................

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#2 Kelllvin
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By the way...I am only running games at my default monitor resolution which is 1280x1024!!!!!!!!!!
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#3 LahiruD
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Which resolution you've played CoH ?

& what about Lost Planet ?

I played Lost Planet in DX10 mode & I'm getting Over 35FPS but sometimes 20FPS, overall Enjoyble. (1280x720, 16 AF, 4AA, HDR Medium, Shadows Medium & other Max)

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#4 stvee101
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Yeah I've got the exact same card as you and I went to play coh in dx10 and it wasnt good.Max settings 16AA 16AF and 50 FPS in dx9 but dx10 gets like slide show with even medium settings.I'm hoping the dx10 mode is just incredibly poorly optimized in this game or else I fear for this card up against the likes of Crysis and Bioshock.

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#5 domke13
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8800 series cards have some kind of bug that your performance drops for half every couple of 10 minutes or so. This bug is mostly found on 8800 GTS whit 320MB of RAM. GTS 640MB and GTX seems to dont have that issue. Nvidia should fix this bug till middle of spetember. Try to press alt+tab when you get very low framerate. If it is that bug that affects your performance, you should get around double framerate after you press alt+tab in-game.
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#6 LahiruD
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8800 series cards have some kind of bug that your performance drops for half every couple of 10 minutes or so. This bug is mostly found on 8800 GTS whit 320MB of RAM. GTS 640MB and GTX seems to dont have that issue. Nvidia should fix this bug till middle of spetember. Try to press alt+tab when you get very low framerate. If it is that bug that affects your performance, you should get around double framerate after you press alt+tab in-game.domke13

Domke13 Didn't you updated the drivers of your GTX ?

The new forceware has some improved performenc (162.22)

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#7 domke13
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[QUOTE="domke13"]8800 series cards have some kind of bug that your performance drops for half every couple of 10 minutes or so. This bug is mostly found on 8800 GTS whit 320MB of RAM. GTS 640MB and GTX seems to dont have that issue. Nvidia should fix this bug till middle of spetember. Try to press alt+tab when you get very low framerate. If it is that bug that affects your performance, you should get around double framerate after you press alt+tab in-game.LahiruD

Domke13 Didn't you updated the drivers of your GTX ?

The new forceware has some improved performenc (162.22)

I am too lazy to do all that reboot and that **** right now. And i know that those drivers improved performance.

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#8 enriquesdrj2_8
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im sure it will get fixed soon maybe in nvidias next release(which we all know takes forever):?
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#9 Anubis_386
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The 320MB GTS cards aren't all that great really unless you overlcock them .. One of the hardware review sites OC a 320MB card and got better performance out of it then a stock 640MB card
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#10 domke13
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The 320MB GTS cards aren't all that great really unless you overlcock them .. One of the hardware review sites OC a 320MB card and got better performance out of it then a stock 640MB cardAnubis_386

Thats very normal if you know the fact that there is NO diference betwen 320MB GTS and 640MB GTS, except RAM.

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#11 enriquesdrj2_8
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[QUOTE="Anubis_386"]The 320MB GTS cards aren't all that great really unless you overlcock them .. One of the hardware review sites OC a 320MB card and got better performance out of it then a stock 640MB carddomke13

Thats very normal if you know the fact that there is NO diference betwen 320MB GTS and 640MB GTS, except RAM.

that is very true...what also is true is the same speed compared to the 8800 gtx but its just missing some shaders, some ram, and a lot of other stuff. Correct me if im wrong:!

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#12 Anubis_386
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Yeh i know but i mean theres a big difference in performance between the stock 320 and stock 640 cards just because of there being less ram ...

Most things can be overclocked to the same or better performance as their superior

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#13 WhOOmpa260
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Yeh i know but i mean theres a big difference in performance between the stock 320 and stock 640 cards just because of there being less ram ...

Most things can be overclocked to the same or better performance as their superior

Anubis_386

The "big difference in performance" depends on the resolution. Anything less then 1600x 1*** will be pretty similar between stock 320 and stock 640. Except when the 320 is overclocked, it will usually outperform the 640 at resolutions equal to or less then 1600x1***

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#14 Th3James
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what card will i need to play games maxed on a 27" 1080p tv?
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#15 domke13
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[QUOTE="domke13"]

[QUOTE="Anubis_386"]The 320MB GTS cards aren't all that great really unless you overlcock them .. One of the hardware review sites OC a 320MB card and got better performance out of it then a stock 640MB cardenriquesdrj2_8

Thats very normal if you know the fact that there is NO diference betwen 320MB GTS and 640MB GTS, except RAM.

that is very true...what also is true is the same speed compared to the 8800 gtx but its just missing some shaders, some ram, and a lot of other stuff. Correct me if im wrong:!

No. Its not same speeds. GTX is faster.

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what card will i need to play games maxed on a 27" 1080p tv? Th3James

8800GTX or SLI GTX but I think 1 GTX can maxout

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#17 firefly026
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My suggestion would be to wait for games like BioShock and Crysis to run in DX10 games. Most of the games now that have DX10 features were simply patched, which explains the bad performance.
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#18 TheDukeEmperor
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It seems that they have to work the bugs out of DX10, like they have to with Vista still.
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#19 Fyper
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I think it's the combination of Vista, which still isn't perfect, DX10, which probably still isn't perfect, and your 8800GTS card. You should have gone for the 640MB one.
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#20 DarkRecruit
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Yeh i know but i mean theres a big difference in performance between the stock 320 and stock 640 cards just because of there being less ram ...

Most things can be overclocked to the same or better performance as their superior

Anubis_386

...you can't overclock the amount of ram.

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#21 Anubis_386
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Yeh i know .. you overclock the speed the RAM and the core is running at ...
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#22 DarkRecruit
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Yeh i know .. you overclock the speed the RAM and the core is running at ...Anubis_386
But you can do that to both of them so they'll still be similar.
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#23 Anubis_386
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The point is that for £50 less (dun o what the prices are like over in the US) you can get a 320mb version and easily overclock the RAM and Core speeds to the point where the card performs aswell as the 640mb version
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#24 DarkRecruit
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The point is that for £50 less (dun o what the prices are like over in the US) you can get a 320mb version and easily overclock the RAM and Core speeds to the point where the card performs aswell as the 640mb version Anubis_386

Yea thats true. I'm getting a 8800gts 320mb soon to.

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#25 Kelllvin
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So does that means that all of us that have the 8800GTS 320MB would be regretting soon????????

Does Company of Heroes consume more than 320MB of VRAM????Everytime I choose the Ultra settings and click apply, it would pop out a warning message that sat these settings is not recommended in my system.

Is this normal? Does anyone with a VRAM more than 512MB getting these message???

Please Reply

THanks for the posts by the way

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#26 domke13
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So does that means that all of us that have the 8800GTS 320MB would be regretting soon????????

Does Company of Heroes consume more than 320MB of VRAM????Everytime I choose the Ultra settings and click apply, it would pop out a warning message that sat these settings is not recommended in my system.

Is this normal? Does anyone with a VRAM more than 512MB getting these message???

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THanks for the posts by the way

Kelllvin

Nop. Not any messages like that at all. I can easily turn on Ultra settings.

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#27 MondoCool
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[QUOTE="Th3James"]what card will i need to play games maxed on a 27" 1080p tv? LahiruD

8800GTX or SLI GTX but I think 1 GTX can maxout

Thats just 1920x1080 a 8800gts 640 or gtx will do fine.