anyone else find that LCD tvs cause massive headaches, especially in the dark?

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#1 Spincut
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I had an LCD television but i got sick of it pretty fast and it had little to do with PQ issues. On the one hand initially the crisper whites, and more saturated colors do look kind of good, especially for gaming, but boy did i start to get eye and headaches that i never before got on my tube television, especially when watching TV in the dark.

I found that anything close to white would burn my eyes, kind of like the feeling when you first wake up in the morning and try and watch something on TV, it feels really bright at first but your eyes adjust after a few minutes, well it's like that except the "adjusting" never happens.

and yes I did try and lowering the backlight, even to the point where it was noticeably dimmer than most other tv's, and pretty bad looking, but I still found it to be unaturally bright feeling and uncomfortable to watch.

When the lights are on it's not as noticeable, that is until later when it catches up to you and your eyes suddenly sting (again this could happen on tube televisions, but not to this degree it feels like).

All of this i of course rather poor timing because if i could just wait a year, the next generation of Pioneer Plasmas (the only plasma I would really yield on) would likely release that "4210" model equivalent that should have been released this year with all the other '10' models.

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#2 sieg6529
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never had that happen. In fact, my eye doctor recommended LCD screens as more gentle on the eyes.
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#3 deactivated-586cbea17e099
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I would recommend that you turn on a light behind you, or somewhere else in the room, staring at a bright screen for extended periods can cause headaches, esp. in the dark. :)
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#4 Spincut
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I would recommend that you turn on a light behind you, or somewhere else in the room, staring at a bright screen for extended periods can cause headaches, esp. in the dark. :)Sorlok

again though this was not necesary with my previous television, so i'm thinking that isnt the main cause.

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#5 dawgsfan1447
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I've heard of this happening in rare cases, it's almost like an allergy to LCDs, but no I've never had a problem with it. I have a lot less headaches than when I had all CRT screens actually.
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#6 anubis9109
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My eyes and head kill me when I watch TV, play games or even read while lying down. I went to see my GP about it and he recommended that I roll my eyes and sit up more, and it did help. I don't know why the CRTs had no effect and LCDs do, sorry.
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#7 clsnbrdr616
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I've heard of this happening in rare cases, it's almost like an allergy to LCDs, but no I've never had a problem with it. I have a lot less headaches than when I had all CRT screens actually.dawgsfan1447


Yeah, I was the exactly the same way as you dawgsfan1447, once I got an LCD screen I noticed just how much more relaxed my eyes felt. Makes me really happy I switched from CRT to LCD.

As for TC, that kind of sucks. I guess everyones different so maybe your eyes aren't as bothered by CRTs as much as LCDs. I know you mentioned plasmas, which may be better for you but I wonder how your eyes would like DLPs too. I say give em both a try next time your in the market for a TV and see how they do with your eyes.
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#8 Spincut
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Well one thing you have to keep in mind is that LCD's are much brighter than they need to be, their brightness are lauded as a big perk, but are often much more than a user needs, plus they are backlight by a fluorescent type of light. These may all be contributors to making those crisp whites cut a particular swathe in the dark that that washes ones eyes in a moisture sucking sting that one usually only feels for those first couple minutes watching t.v. after you wake up from sleeping.
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#9 RyanGPK
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well a few ppl i know say LCD's give them headaches but look at how far away it is. if your eyes have to strain to read the writing yeah thats why your having problems....

but CRTs have radiation and lead in them so even if you do like them better its better to stay clear

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#10 Spincut
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well a few ppl i know say LCD's give them headaches but look at how far away it is. if your eyes have to strain to read the writing yeah thats why your having problems....

but CRTs have radiation and lead in them so even if you do like them better its better to stay clear

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.....Ok then....i'll make note of that ominous but unecesary health warning.

FYI, I dont know why you presume this but i dont have some unique problem "straining" to see an LCD television over a tube television, as they are equidistant. Different treatment of the monitor based on the technology is not the reason for this.

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Quickfix: Place a full-spectrum light behind the television. This is a quick and easy way to reduce eyestrain and improve the appearance of the television. Do not place the light behind you, as it will wash out the screen.
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#12 jollyriot2k1
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I get headaches on LCDs unless I turn the brightness down to 50%-70% ish. It's extra-bad for me if I'm looking at a glossy screen (macbook.....).
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#13 Spincut
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Quickfix: Place a full-spectrum light behind the television. This is a quick and easy way to reduce eyestrain and improve the appearance of the television. Do not place the light behind you, as it will wash out the screen.
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Again though, this was clearly not necesary on my previous television, leading me to beleive it is a problem with the technology itself that would require such a remedy to fix it (the complete effectniveness of which, i would also wonder about).

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#14 Bozanimal
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I use a full-spectrum light behind my CRT, because it causes me eyestrain. It may just be the particular backlight used in your LCD model; they all use different kinds, after all. In any event, a light behind any television, CRT, plasma, or LCD, should help reduce eyestrain. :)
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#15 Spincut
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I use a full-spectrum light behind my CRT, because it causes me eyestrain. It may just be the particular backlight used in your LCD model; they all use different kinds, after all. In any event, a light behind any television, CRT, plasma, or LCD, should help reduce eyestrain. :)Bozanimal

As far as i'm aware most if not all LCD TV's use the same type of backlight, which leads me to beleive it affects all of them.

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I'm gonna have to agree with Dirk13 here. I've had plenty of hdtvs in my day ranging from Westinghouse lcds to Samsung 1080p lcds, from Maxent 720p plasmas to Pioneer Elites, and so much in between.

I also find my eyes straining in the dark with a typical lcd monitor. Whether it's a 19" lcd for my pc such as a Sony Xbrite, or a 22" wide HP model, or whatever. Also, the bigger lcd hdtvs also seem to offer "fake whites" which I find equally disturbing. The truth is, there is nothing pure and accurate about lcds. They offer a good solution to the masses for today's applications I suppose, but in my eyes they are next to the worst, with DLP being the worst.

CRT is still the way to go as far as getting the most accurate picture. I don't care what anyone says about the radiation mumbo-jumbo. They can kiss my @ss! I brought my Sony 34" XBR960 model into Tweater for a professional calibration not long ago. So for a total of under $1500 which includes the tv plus the calibration, I don't think but KNOW FOR A FACT (as well as the reps in the store who agree) that the picture from my 34" CRT destroys my Pioneer Elite which costs me a helluva lot more.

I enjoy the plasma for the entertainment room, but unless you've seen a proper CRT on display or better yet in someone's home of this nature then do us all a favor and don't ever! Please stay away from high quality crts such as this unless you plan to sell your flashy 1080p lcd/plasma and can seek out such a phenominal set.

Xbox 360 games almost look twice as detailed and sharp on my set than ANY lcd or plasma currently sold in retail stores today. Also, high quality CRTs do not strain your eyes. The high refresh rates make up for this unfortunate problem. It's true, you can go out and purchase a $25 vga monitor and burn your eyes out by next week.. or you can simply get something such as what I have in my sig and after a week's usage of that you would think LCD monitors hurt your eyes! It's that simple people. Technology isn't as great as you think, yet.

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#17 Spincut
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After the first paragraph and a half though you tended to talk about alot of things i generally wouldn't have minded about LCD's if it wasnt for the discomfort, and that's just about the main thing i miss from CRT's, not the holy grail of quality alot ofp eople still see in them per se.

I was pretty sure i said actually that if it wasnt for this issue i wouldn't mind some of other popular sore spots as it realtes to LCD PQ and such.