are games in statis?

I allways played any kinds of games that were available,but the newer games are starting to feel crappy.recently i played dragon age origins,but i lost interest after while.i also tried the praised mass effect,but still nothing.not even the 9.2 graded world in conflict havent moved me.if all games just stopped to be fun ,it would be logical,and i would probably think im just too old for them.but when i play classics like FF7,pirates of carribean,half life 2,bf2,ps games[i were out of my mind and glued to screen when i played ape escape],and many others,i still have great fun.

so here is question,ARE GAMES REALLY GETTING MORE DUMBER,or is it just me?

well i dont know,but still assassins creed were great experience[aw where the hell is revelations?]

It's called the decline for a reason. The homogenization of games to appeal to 'wider audiences' is in full force now. Devs and publishers (most importantly) don't want to take chances any more, so they stick with what they know will appeal to the lowest commom denominator. There are a few titles and Devs like Bohemia and Arma2 that are still niche and aren't trying to casualize they're product. Remember when there were a bunch of tactical shooters out there to choose from (Ghost Recon1, early Rainbow Six games, Swat games) Take the horror genre, granted you have Amnesia, but that's an indie. Look at all the bigger budget so called 'horror' games now, they're really more action games than true horror. Take rpgs, they're now action games with rpg elements sprinkled in, again trying to appeal to the shooter/action crowd which undoubtedly dwarfs the other fans. Gaming has gotten too big for it's own good basiclly. My advise, stick with the classics and indies. (for the most part)

Try the Witcher 2

Some of the most fun games I have played in the past few years are indie. I have come to accept that I am just not part of the "wider audience". Thankfully, great games can be cheap to make with talented, driven developers. It really is sad to see the industry shift to an audience that doesn't appreciate the same aspects of gaming that you do. For example, I appreciate challenge, and creativity. The biggest budget games go for easy and similar to other games.

Games are as great as ever. Probably the best they have ever been, really.

If you're finding yourself not into modern games, maybe you're either

A) not really into games that don't work like your old classics

B) maybe you're just not feeling gaming as much anymore

4-5 years ago I had kind of a "dead period", where I didn't game a lot and I wasn't really feeling the new games, but now I'm enjoying games as much as I did when I was a kid.

Sometimes your gaming interesting will just go up or down a bit

More dumber? I don't think the games are the problem. Also, perhaps you should take a break from gaming in general. It would appear you're burning out.

It's called the decline for a reason. The homogenization of games to appeal to 'wider audiences' is in full force now. Devs and publishers (most importantly) don't want to take chances any more, so they stick with what they know will appeal to the lowest commom denominator. There are a few titles and Devs like Bohemia and Arma2 that are still niche and aren't trying to casualize they're product. Remember when there were a bunch of tactical shooters out there to choose from (Ghost Recon1, early Rainbow Six games, Swat games) Take the horror genre, granted you have Amnesia, but that's an indie. Look at all the bigger budget so called 'horror' games now, they're really more action games than true horror. Take rpgs, they're now action games with rpg elements sprinkled in, again trying to appeal to the shooter/action crowd which undoubtedly dwarfs the other fans. Gaming has gotten too big for it's own good basiclly. My advise, stick with the classics and indies. (for the most part)

bussinrounds

I don't agree with that pic.... of course they are all military FPS so they are going to be similar, duh....

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It's called the decline for a reason. The homogenization of games to appeal to 'wider audiences' is in full force now. Devs and publishers (most importantly) don't want to take chances any more, so they stick with what they know will appeal to the lowest commom denominator. There are a few titles and Devs like Bohemia and Arma2 that are still niche and aren't trying to casualize they're product. Remember when there were a bunch of tactical shooters out there to choose from (Ghost Recon1, early Rainbow Six games, Swat games) Take the horror genre, granted you have Amnesia, but that's an indie. Look at all the bigger budget so called 'horror' games now, they're really more action games than true horror. Take rpgs, they're now action games with rpg elements sprinkled in, again trying to appeal to the shooter/action crowd which undoubtedly dwarfs the other fans. Gaming has gotten too big for it's own good basiclly. My advise, stick with the classics and indies. (for the most part)

FelipeInside

I don't agree with that pic.... of course they are all military FPS so they are going to be similar, duh....

you really got me with that pic,laughed like hell.but i agree,game industry has turned into giant copypasta.

Mythpro1 look at the games now they are either fps,or fps with rpg elements.

Technomancer82:that would be,if this is the case,i hope it will blow over soon.

yonyz:yeah i would try that,still game companies should not act so much as monebags.

consolization and dumbing down of the games to attract bigger audiences (read this as kids) screw up the gaming industry. there are still one or two games that comes every year which are cool but overall you are right.

Mythpro1 look at the games now they are either fps,or fps with rpg elements.

Nightmare799

Nearly 2/3rds of all games released every year aren't even FPS...the above quote is such a hyperbole and I see people say this all the time. The facts speak differently, though. Honestly, if you really can't find something to play you maybe are just getting a bit burned out. It happens!

Something is wrong with a small demographic of grumpy gamers these days...they want you believe everything is a FPS. They want you to believe there's no deep and complex games anymore. Basically, misery loves company. Don't let these types get you down...gaming is amazing. There is literally something for every kind of gamer out there. Stop paying attention to CoD and those kinds of games if you don't like them. Look elsewhere! There's literally tons of awesome and indepth games out there for you to enjoy.

2010 PC Releases (missing a lot of indies...but most major games covered)

Non-fps in bold:

Battlefield: Bad Company 2 Vietnam
World of Warcraft: Cataclysm
The Sims 3: Late Night Expansion Pack
Super Meat Boy
Bejeweled 3
Majesty 2: Battles of Ardania
Create
Dead Rising 2
Mafia II: Joe's Adventures
The Ball
Football Manager 2011
Call of Duty: Black Ops
James Bond 007: Blood Stone
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed II
The Kings' Crusade
Fallout: New Vegas
Lost Planet 2
Medal of Honor
Final Fantasy XIV Online
Patrician IV
Blade Kitten
Amnesia: The Dark Descent
Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light
Darksiders
Sid Meier's Civilization V
King's Bounty: Crossworlds
Mafia II: Jimmy's Vendetta
R.U.S.E.
Mass Effect 2: Lair of the Shadow Broker
Dragon Age: Origins - Witch Hunt
Elemental: War of Magic
Razor 2: Hidden Skies
Worms Reloaded
Mafia II
Puzzle Quest 2
Victoria II
Kane & Lynch 2: Dog Days
Commander: Conquest of the Americas
Alter Ego
Disciples III: Renaissance
Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty
Turba
Blacklight: Tango Down
Rhythm Zone
Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands
ArmA II: Operation Arrowhead
Dragon Age: Origins - Leliana's Song
APB
Monkey Island 2 Special Edition: LeChuck's Revenge
Sniper: Ghost Warrior
Age of Conan: Rise of the Godslayer
Transformers: War for Cybertron
Puzzle Agent
Making History II: The War of the World
LEGO Harry Potter: Years 1-4
Singularity
Mass Effect 2: Overlord
Plain Sight
The Sims 3: Ambitions
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Conviction - Deniable Ops Insurgency Pack
Runaway: A Twist of Fate
Tropico 3: Absolute Power
Alpha Protocol
Blur
Guns of Icarus
Split/Second
The Whispered World
Serious Sam HD: The Second Encounter
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Conviction
Out of the Park Baseball 11
Beat Hazard
Mount & Blade: Warband
The Misadventures of P.B. Winterbottom
Grand Theft Auto IV: Episodes From Liberty City
Majesty 2: Kingmaker
Lead and Gold: Gangs of the Wild West
Prison Break: The Conspiracy
Mass Effect 2: Kasumi - Stolen Memory
The Settlers 7: Paths to a Kingdom
Shatter
Global Agenda
Major League Baseball 2K10
Just Cause 2
Silent Hunter 5: Battle of the Atlantic
Metro 2033
Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II - Chaos Rising
Command & Conquer 4: Tiberian Twilight
Dawn of Discovery: Venice
Assassin's Creed II
Battlefield: Bad Company 2
Napoleon: Total War
Supreme Commander 2
Aliens vs. Predator
Star Trek Online
Hotel Giant 2
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Pripyat
Mass Effect 2
Dark Void
Twin Sector
Divinity II: Ego Draconis
King's Bounty: Armored Princess

you can tell what you want,but mass effect is exacly what i stated above,well it isnt first person but thats nearly the same.plus the rpg elements,and you didnt even listed all of fps.

So out of that gigantic list I posted...do you really think pointing out one you disagree with (even though it's not FPS lol) and claiming I missed some FPS out there really disproves the point? I probably missed a lot of games to be honest...indies (which I already mentioned) and other games that are not FPS too. The point is, the statement that games these days are either FPS or FPS with RPG stuff in it is categorically incorrect. In fact, MOST games are not FPS or FPS with RPG aspects to begin with.

There's plenty of stuff to play, just take a look around and stop concentrating on the things you don't like. I tend to notice a lot gamers (PC gamers specifically) really have a lot of negative opinions about games. They complain about everything is a FPS, or games these days lack depth, or this or that. The reality is there's tons of great stuff out there...I play them all the time. I've been gaming since the 80's and honestly the past few years have been as good as any other time in history (thanks to Steam and digital distrobution in general).

2/3rds of them NOT being FPS is bigger. Renevent42

Yes, but the only reason this would possibly be alright is if there was only three genres, right? Xilari

Revenant42, you are being excessively defensive here. Maybe if you compare FPS to the total number of games, you don't see too much of a pattern. If you look at the biggest budget games, you probably do see a pattern. The big money is flowing into FPS and FPS with RPG elements. I saw the G4 special on the last E3, and these two genres were, by far, the biggest part of the expo. I think market research is directing the development of gaming heavily these days. Developers/publishers are trying to find the largest audiences and targetting them. They saw the huge success of games like Bioshock, Borderlands, Modern Warfare 2, and even Oblivion, and they want all that success to continue.

My favorite genre, turn-based strategy, seems to be getting very small budgets in recent years, and it's almost relegated to indie titles only. If you look at real-time strategy, you don't see a whole lot coming down the pipe in the way of big budget titles. We are looking forward to the Starcraft 2 expansions, and the possibility of a propery Command and Conquer, and maybe another Dawn of War, but where are the new IPs? Supreme Commander was a great game back in 2007 and enjoyed success. Hell, I would take another Universe at War. That wasn't such a bad game. There is just not a lot of money flowing into RTS in the coming years.

Let's move onto hack 'n slash RPGs with overhead view. Haven't seen much on the consoles lately other than Dungeon Siege 3. PC is getting Diablo 3 and Torchlight 2, and that's not bad, I admit. Not much else though. Certainly nothing with a big budget and big advertising.

How about adventure titles? Mostly PC, small budget, a few downloadable games on console maybe.

How about simulators? Not many these days. Mostly European developers for PC.

Space combat sims? Also not many, X series is the only thing keeping the genre alive, in my opinion.

Racing? Yeah, racing is still big, especially on consoles. Not as big as FPS, but big.

Sports? Big on consoles mostly. Still very big actually.

Fighting games (street fighter stuff)? Kinda big, but not like it used to be.

Seems to me like there is an industry shift to genres that are big on console, with FPS and FPS with RPG elements leading the way as far as budgets. PC games seem to be getting a big infusion of indie titles, and I'm cool with that. Small budget, but many are creative and fun.

I'm not being defensive...the claim that games are either FPS or FPS with RPG aspects is categorically incorrect. I've provided the factual evidence to prove the point. There's nothing else to be said.

Regarding budget, the biggest budget games aren't even FPS...they are MMO's and games like Read Dead Redemption. Genres goes in out of popularity...what of it? How many text adventure are released these days? How about this, instead of you guys just saying whatever comes to your mind, how about you list out all the games and make a point with actual facts and evidence. In the case of RTS games, looking at gamespot's list of them there's tons of them...including some very excellent new IP's like King Author.

The reality is in large this argument (it's all FPS!) is nothing more than angst against something popular. It doesn't even represent 1/4th (estimate based on the facts...didn't actually count though) of all the games released. They don't have the largest budgets in gaming Even within the FPS genre that is a pretty large genre itself. Within FPS it's not just FPS and FPS with RPG...there's military sims, multiplayer arena games (like TF2), puzzle games (Portal), unique ones like Mirrors Edge, and tons of other stuff.

I am sorry, this complaint from you guys doesn't have a lot of actual merit behind it other than FPS genre is popular. Beyond that...it's more just emotion and perception that's not even based on what's actually out there. I swear, just a year or so ago so many people where whining that it's nothing but MMO's coming out now lol. Round and round we go!

I allways played any kinds of games that were available,but the newer games are starting to feel crappy.but when i play classics like half life 2,bf2

Nightmare799

K what?

You say Half life 2 and BF2 are "Classics",.. they aren't even that old!

I allways played any kinds of games that were available,but the newer games are starting to feel crappy.recently i played dragon age origins,but i lost interest after while.i also tried the praised mass effect,but still nothing.not even the 9.2 graded world in conflict havent moved me.if all games just stopped to be fun ,it would be logical,and i would probably think im just too old for them.but when i play classics like FF7,pirates of carribean,half life 2,bf2,ps games[i were out of my mind and glued to screen when i played ape escape],and many others,i still have great fun.

so here is question,ARE GAMES REALLY GETTING MORE DUMBER,or is it just me?

Nightmare799

so here is question,ARE GAMES REALLY GETTING MORE DUMBER,or is it just me?

Nightmare799

LMFAO!!! sounds like it just MORE YOU!

"Dragon age origins=6

Xena warrior princess=8.5"

-nightmare799

yup, definitely you!

you can tell what you want,but mass effect is exacly what i stated above,well it isnt first person but thats nearly the same.plus the rpg elements,and you didnt even listed all of fps.

Nightmare799

Nowadays most mainstream big budget games are unninspired, boring, repetitive, cinematic and too "automatic". But there're still a lot of good games to play, both mainstream and indie titles, especially the latter. Look harder and don't look based on hype and scores.

What really declined gaming was the runaway development cost and publishers and American store chains turning away from niche games.

I allways played any kinds of games that were available,but the newer games are starting to feel crappy.recently i played dragon age origins,but i lost interest after while.i also tried the praised mass effect,but still nothing.not even the 9.2 graded world in conflict havent moved me.if all games just stopped to be fun ,it would be logical,and i would probably think im just too old for them.but when i play classics like FF7,pirates of carribean,half life 2,bf2,ps games[i were out of my mind and glued to screen when i played ape escape],and many others,i still have great fun.

so here is question,ARE GAMES REALLY GETTING MORE DUMBER,or is it just me?

lol so what,you really sound like graphics whore to me.dragon age was wow clone with ripoff story,you cant defend it here.weapons and armor had few variations and most of it were just different tilts or skins with other stats.it had nothing except graphics.as for gta 4 go for it if you think its better that sa.imo it was biggest steaming pile of **** evar relased.if iwanted a life simulator,id go for for sims.LOL it was in fact so reallistic,that nico slept in shoes.

BTW:xena was ptetty cool game.you cant accuse from being bad when you didnt played[and you certainly didnt]it.

allright you seem not to get it.first off you must understand how much the ambitions of gaming industry have grown.take the said HL2.it was original,fun,had good graphics and phisics.then look a few years later.nearly nothing have changed and today fps are nearly all the same.take the cd,load some models textures music add guns story about a hero saving the world[but HL1 and 2 had it sooner]and voila,there you have modern fps.the problem is it is dumb cause it had been here over nine 9000 times.the conclusion is that games IMO are getting dumber cause they are nothing new,and they are copying the same things over and over.

there are some bright spots of course but still nothing new.

quit saying stupid thing im from Czech republic and i think my english skills are quite cool considering where i come from.now say what i said in CZ,and if you cant,then stf and read a book.