are hd tvs supposed to cause this much pain? please help

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#1 Dave-90
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Just bought a new tv, one of the samsung 530 series and its gotten great reviews everywhere, but whenever I play a game e.g. uncharted 2 everything in the background is extremely blurry and juttery during movement... its almost impossible to move the camera around because everything that isnt the character descends into a blurry slideshow.

it hurts to look at.

are all tvs like this?

its my first one and I still dont know what to be expecting from hd, I chose one with pretty high specs so its not like its the tv (hopefully)

on your games, is background movement smooth and fluid?

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Guessing this is an lcd? What are the specs? Response time and refresh rate? I haven't gamed on my big screen LCD, but I do notice artifacting/motion blur in tv shows or movies even with TruMotion at 120 or 240hz. Probably the main reason I moved the plasma into the bedroom, can't stand that crap.

Also what is the resolution? Were you playing on a 1280x1024 or something screen and now using a 1080p TV? What are you fps in games?

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#3 Bgrngod
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Uhm.. that might be the game itself doing a motion blur effect. Not the TV. Try watching ESPN for awhile and see if the fast moving sports clips do the same thing. Or try another game and see if it's a problem.

I guess that depends on what you mean by "blurry slideshow".

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#4 Dave-90
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Guessing this is an lcd? What are the specs? Response time and refresh rate? I haven't gamed on my big screen LCD, but I do notice artifacting/motion blur in tv shows or movies even with TruMotion at 120 or 240hz. Probably the main reason I moved the plasma into the bedroom, can't stand that crap.

Also what is the resolution? Were you playing on a 1280x1024 or something screen and now using a 1080p TV? What are you fps in games?

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le32b530 lcd full 1080p 5 or 6ms response 60hz normal tv is fine, just games, there is a fair bit of ghosting and judder. are there any tips/tricks to minimize it without buying another tv?
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#5 Ripcurl530
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Unfortunately, ghosting is a big problem in LCDs. It may be partially the game, but if this happens in all your games, it's ghosting. The lower the response time, the less ghosting, but I have yet to see an LCD that has absolutely no ghosting. This is why I want to get a plasma...
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#6 donalbane
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Try other games, and if you still see it, you may have a problem, though as others have suggested, the Uncharted games have a tendency to artificially simulate the focal point of the human eye by intentionally using lots of motion blur and image diffusion in an attempt to make thing appear photoreaslistic. I honestly think your TV is fine, but test it on another game. I mean, if Drake gets blurry, then thats a problem. But if it's just everything else, it's one of the game's visual effects, which I promise was intentional.
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#7 BeavermanA
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Well what are your computer specs? Games may run like slideshows on 1080p if you were playing at a lower resolution monitor, 1080p requires a pretty good pc to get good fps in modern games. And a 60hz lcd isn't going to look that great with fast moving objects.

Oh my bad guess you are using a console, I don't own any so have no idea how they run on any tv.

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Well what are your computer specs? Games may run like slideshows on 1080p if you were playing at a lower resolution monitor, 1080p requires a pretty good pc to get good fps in modern games. And a 60hz lcd isn't going to look that great with fast moving objects. BeavermanA

computer specs? uncharted 2=PS3 exclusive ;)

turn on energy save r mode to max, find a "GAME MODE" setting, and sit back and enjoy. the 5 seiries shouldnt have any motion enhancer if memory serves correctly, but on my la32r71 (3 year old version of the urs), bit the menu button on the remote when ur on the channel that is the PS3 (please tell me ur using HDMI!!!) and change the settings i mentioned. sure it'll get darker, but that u'll get used to it and it saves power! the idea is that on my older model, energy save and GAME mode drastically darkens the black levels and drops away the backlight a lot to hide the flaws of LCD pictures (the older models suffered the "screen door" effect)

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#9 BeavermanA
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Yea I just noticed that, guess I've only ever hooked a modern tv up to my pc, so I forget.
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#10 PetJel
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I read this from other 530 / 550 owners aswell, they said what can help is turn off a certain option, I think it was some 'noise' option that you have to turn off. I'm not 100% sure as I don't own this tv (yet)
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#11 kungfool69
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http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1131952

one recommendation for calibration settings, otherwise u can do some more googling to get slightly different views

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#12 bigM10231
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get an HDMI or component cables it will decrease the blur and jitters. and also put your ps3 in either 1080p or 720p display because that will give the best result

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#13 hakanakumono
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I had the same problem with FFXIII. Try turning on game-mode. It should fix the problem.

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#14 Dave-90
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Try other games, and if you still see it, you may have a problem, though as others have suggested, the Uncharted games have a tendency to artificially simulate the focal point of the human eye by intentionally using lots of motion blur and image diffusion in an attempt to make thing appear photoreaslistic. I honestly think your TV is fine, but test it on another game. I mean, if Drake gets blurry, then thats a problem. But if it's just everything else, it's one of the game's visual effects, which I promise was intentional.donalbane
yeah I read about this somewhere, Il try some other games and see what happens cheers
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#15 Senor_Kami
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That sucks. I've got a kinda old Samsung LCD that doesn't give me those issues and I've played the Uncharted 2 demo. Check to see if there is a game mode. If so, turn that on and see if that helps.