Are you excited about JRPGs like Last Remnant coming to PC?

As PC gamers we normally get lots of Western RPGs, but lack Japanese RPGs, so Last Remnant is a good step in the right direction when looking at PC gaming diversity. Last Remnant is a Japanese RPG that is being publsihed by Square Enix, and is being released on the PS3, 360 and PC. Obviously we PC gamers will get better graphics along with other possible advantages. Imagine having mods in one of these games, it would be cool :D

As for me, I am excited about playing this game on my PC, since I love both JRPGs (on consoles/handhelds) and WRPGs (on PC). Since Final Fantasy 13 is no longer exclusive to PS3 because it is coming to 360, it may also come to PC later on, and why not? If Square will publish Last Remnant on PC, they might also do the same to FF13 :)

Your thoughts? Are you excited about JRPGs coming to PC? Will you be interested in mods for them?

I'm not excited about them but, as Fatshodan said, as long as they don't step on the toes of WRPG's then I'm cool with them on PC.
Grim_Wolf88

I see what you mean, but thankfully JRPGs and WRPGs are very different to eachother so I don't think that they will compete with eachother much. For example, I loved FF7 but that did not distract me from NeverWinter Nights. If JRPGs were on PCs, then I believe that PC gaming will step on the toes of consoles, so its more of an issue between PC vs console instead of JRPG vs WRPG :P

Yes i love some Jrpg but i found them mostly to be cliche and unoriginal lol (ff cough ultima cough)

Not even a little, but new markets and potentially huge games (FF) is probably good for PC gaming as a whole, provided jRPGs don't step on the toes of western RPGs. White haired androgynes are great and all, but I like my elves/aliens mix.fatshodan

And the difference between the two is....?

I'm excited about this, TC. I like some JRPGs. Not the kiddy crap, but titles that at least try to make the characters look like semi-normal people. Cute girls with huge eyes and small mouths make me puke pink sugary fluids, but I'm also pretty tired of your typical run off the mill WRPG, so anything that can give me an alternative and lengthy gaming-experience with a great story is okey in my book.

[QUOTE="fatshodan"]Not even a little, but new markets and potentially huge games (FF) is probably good for PC gaming as a whole, provided jRPGs don't step on the toes of western RPGs. White haired androgynes are great and all, but I like my elves/aliens mix.artur79

And the difference between the two is....?

Elves don't have to suffer turn based combat, random encounters, an absolute absense of choice, consequence and character development, and elves don't have to be reclusive loners who subsequently learn the meaning of friendship and duty while failling in love with generic_female_love_interest_01, who possibly dies in on the third disc.

I was just using elves and aliens as being symbolic of western roleplaying games (since that's usually all we get), and the androgynes as being symbolic of jRPGs. I wasn't actually talking about the actual characters.

jRPGs have many excellent... no-- some excellent qua-- actually, let me restart. JRPGs have one excel.. well, some people think that jRPGs have one excellent quality. Possibly.

As PC gamers we normally get lots of Western RPGs, but lack Japanese RPGs, so Last Remnant is a good step in the right direction when looking at PC gaming diversity. Last Remnant is a Japanese RPG that is being publsihed by Square Enix, and is being released on the PS3, 360 and PC. Obviously we PC gamers will get better graphics along with other possible advantages. Imagine having mods in one of these games, it would be cool :D

As for me, I am excited about playing this game on my PC, since I love both JRPGs (on consoles/handhelds) and WRPGs (on PC). Since Final Fantasy 13 is no longer exclusive to PS3 because it is coming to 360, it may also come to PC later on, and why not? If Square will publish Last Remnant on PC, they might also do the same to FF13 :)

Your thoughts? Are you excited about JRPGs coming to PC? Will you be interested in mods for them?

PandaBear86

I will advocate like never before for more jrpg's to make it to the PC. I think lately the influx of some console only games to pc has been enlightening. Devil may cry 4 was one. This will be another. These arent total crap games either.

I love RPG in general. Whether it be of the stuff of DnD, western, or asian. I enjoy them all. I am happy with this turn of events. I also think that if this game does well a FF13 port might become a reality.

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[QUOTE="fatshodan"]Not even a little, but new markets and potentially huge games (FF) is probably good for PC gaming as a whole, provided jRPGs don't step on the toes of western RPGs. White haired androgynes are great and all, but I like my elves/aliens mix.fatshodan

And the difference between the two is....?

Elves don't have to suffer turn based combat, random encounters, an absolute absense of choice, consequence and character development, and elves don't have to be reclusive loners who subsequently learn the meaning of friendship and duty while failling in love with generic_female_love_interest_01, who possibly dies in on the third disc.

I was just using elves and aliens as being symbolic of western roleplaying games (since that's usually all we get), and the androgynes as being symbolic of jRPGs. I wasn't actually talking about the actual characters.

jRPGs have many excellent... no-- some excellent qua-- actually, let me restart. JRPGs have one excel.. well, some people think that jRPGs have one excellent quality. Possibly.

Well, the turn based combat is kinda passe, I think. FF12 doesn't have the typical combat system that you just described. Not that I've played it, but I've seen clips. Absense of choice and char development, are you talking about Oblivion or JRPGs now? But I see where you're going with this. Still, there's lots of cliches in WRPGS as well. A hero you know little about, he gets a sword, hacks and slashes through various generic monsters we've all seen before, slaying ****ing dragons in the endgame (I hate them, I'd rather see a she-boy wield a giant sword), using the same D&D rules I grew tired of a long time ago.

I dunno, man. Both genres have cons and pros. I'll give Last Remnant a chance to impress me. I'm not sure I will do the same with TES5.

Well, the turn based combat is kinda passe, I think. FF12 doesn't have the typical combat system that you just described. Not that I've played it, but I've seen clips.artur79

I know that (some) jRPGs are doing away with random encounters and perhaps even turn basex combat, but it's still a very well established and longrunning element of jRPGs, and until most aren't doing it, I will acknowledge it! I am not talking about one particular game here, but the whole genre.

Absense of choice and char development, are you talking about Oblivion or JRPGs now?artur79

Oblivion is not a roleplaying game. It is an abomination.

But I see where you're going with this. Still, there's lots of cliches in WRPGS as well. A hero you know little about, he gets a sword, hacks and slashes through various generic monsters we've all seen before, slaying ****ing dragons in the endgame (I hate them, I'd rather see a she-boy wield a giant sword), using the same D&D rules I grew tired of a long time ago.artur79

Yeah, there are many clichés in western RPGs too, but while they are tired and overused, they aren't necessarily bad. But none of my favourite and most played roleplaying games use D&D rules, or are even vaguely similar. One is post-apocalyptic setting with turn based combat, one is a contemporary vampire setting with real time combat, and another is a dark medieval setting with real time/turn based hybrid combat.

I dunno, man. Both genres have cons and pros. I'll give Last Remnant a chance to impress me. I'm not sure I will do the same with TES5.artur79

Stop mentioning Elder Scrolls games! They are terrible and not representative of good western roleplaying games at all!!

I know that (some) jRPGs are doing away with random encounters and perhaps even turn basex combat, but it's still a very well established and longrunning element of jRPGs, and until most aren't doing it, I will acknowledge it! I am not talking about one particular game here, but the whole genre.

Fair enough, I just wanted to point out that THE jrpg-series of all time aka FF is abandoning (hopefully) this type of combat. My bet is that others will do the same in the future. *crosses fingers* Not that there is anything wrong with it though. I actually thought FF10 had more enjoyable combat mechanics than Fallout. BRING IT OOOON! (You really have to watch a lot of Simpsons and Family Guy to get my jokes sometimes... Although FF10 > Fallout wasn't a joke. Halo rules.)

Oblivion is not a roleplaying game. It is an abomination.

I thought you enjoyed the exploration? But yes, can't argue against the ultimate truth that you just typed. :roll:

Yeah, there are many clichés in western RPGs too, but while they are tired and overused, they aren't necessarily bad. But none of my favourite and most played roleplaying games use D&D rules, or are even vaguely similar. One is post-apocalyptic setting with turn based combat, one is a contemporary vampire setting with real time combat, and another is a dark medieval setting with real time/turn based hybrid combat.

First sentence: You're entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to think that tired and overused sucks. Hard. Seriously, if I see one more talking dragon or a goddamn elf, I'll flip out. Not really, but I will be very upset and irritated. That's why I want to marry every sci-fi RPG Bioware creates. It's nothing new or revolutionary when it comes to settings, but at least Tolkien does not roll over in his grave when they release those.

Stop mentioning Elder Scrolls games! They are terrible and not representative of good western roleplaying games at all!!

Morrowind rules, man, RULES! Oblivion on the other hand does not.

Why does everyone hate Oblivion? (don't be criticizing answering this I want real reasons w/o flamez)

No I'm not excited about JRPG from what I've read they all have really weird and/or copy cat stories.

back to the Oblivion thing..I enjoyed the game, I like KotOR more much more but I never found anything I really disliked about Oblivion.

@ Fatshodan...what other RPGs would you recommend?

Why does everyone hate Oblivion? (don't be criticizing answering this I want real reasons w/o flamez)

No I'm not excited about JRPG from what I've read they all have really weird and/or copy cat stories.

back to the Oblivion thing..I enjoyed the game, I like KotOR more much more but I never found anything I really disliked about Oblivion.

@ Fatshodan...what other RPGs would you recommend?

mechwarrior_bob

Basically its because its not a real RPG.

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Why does everyone hate Oblivion? (don't be criticizing answering this I want real reasons w/o flamez)

No I'm not excited about JRPG from what I've read they all have really weird and/or copy cat stories.

back to the Oblivion thing..I enjoyed the game, I like KotOR more much more but I never found anything I really disliked about Oblivion.

@ Fatshodan...what other RPGs would you recommend?

Lonelynight

Basically its because its not a real RPG.

So it's not a bad game in and of itself it's just not a good RPG (better Action game)? Kinda like Fallout 3?

Am I correct?

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Why does everyone hate Oblivion? (don't be criticizing answering this I want real reasons w/o flamez)

No I'm not excited about JRPG from what I've read they all have really weird and/or copy cat stories.

back to the Oblivion thing..I enjoyed the game, I like KotOR more much more but I never found anything I really disliked about Oblivion.

@ Fatshodan...what other RPGs would you recommend?

mechwarrior_bob

Basically its because its not a real RPG.

So it's not a bad game in and of itself it's just not a good RPG (better Action game)? Kinda like Fallout 3?

Am I correct?

Yes you are. But to me the action wasn't really good either.

So it was a sub par RPG and sub par Action game, to me anyway.

I honestly love all kinds og rpgs, western and japanese styled ones.

And more rpgs in general is always great imo no matter what country they are from, just my two cents.

I honestly love all kinds og rpgs, western and japanese styled ones.

And more rpgs in general is always great imo no matter what country they are from, just my two cents.

kozzy1234

QFT.

the only thing i dnt like about oblivion is that the enemies level up with you.. what's the use of levelling up here? i still had a good time with it though.

the only thing i dnt like about oblivion is that the enemies level up with you.. what's the use of levelling up here? i still had a good time with it though.

aoshi_shinumori

There is a mod that fixes that.

With a few exceptions down the line like some of the final fantasy games or eternal sonata which i genuinely did enjoy, I really don't care for turn based rpgs.

I can't even work up any excitement for Final Fantasy XIII. PC announcement for Last Remnant, to me, has the same effect as silence.

On the other hand, I'm literally drooling as I wait for Alpha Protocol, Fallout 3 and Mass Effect 2. :D