Assassin's Creed: DX10 confirmed, faster than DX9

Looks like DX10 is finally starting to be useful, what do u guys think...

in an interview with Ubisoft's Charles Beauchemin, Technical Lead, Assassin's Creed PC, PCGH got the confirmation that Assassin's Creed will use Direct X 10 features:

PCGH: When porting for the PC have you thought about integrating support for DirectX 10 into the engine? Will there be a version of Assassin's Creed that will utilize the new Vista API?

Charles Beauchemin: Yes, Assassin's Creed supports DX10 as well as DX9.

PCGH: What are the technical advantages of that API?

Charles Beauchemin: DirectX 10 enables us to make fewer calls to the API to perform the same actions. Therefore, it will be possible for the drivers to make optimizations making the game faster without any change to the game engine. Since most of the DX10 drivers are still young, we can expect a lot of gain to come from the optimization of these drivers.

PCGH: Do you use advanced features of Direct X 10/Shader Model 4 like Geometry Shader, Virtual Texture Management etc.? Can you please give examples how they are utilized? In what way do these features improve or simplify the rendering process?

Charles Beauchemin: No. Most of the porting to DX10 involves optimizations of the existing calls, without any new content.

PCGH: Will the DX 10 visualization differ substantially from the graphics that are rendered with DX 9 hardware? What are the visuals that can only be rendered with shader model 4 hardware? Can you supply us with a visual proof via screenshot too?

Charles Beauchemin: No new content has been added to the DX10 version.

PCGH: How much of a performance hit will the improved optics of DX 10 incur? With all details maxed out is a typical first gen DX 10 card already running at its limits?

Charles Beauchemin: No performance hit occurs, since no improved optics are implemented. However, when running on Vista, DirectX 10 version speed will be much faster than its DirectX 9 counterpart (also running on Vista)

Got this at guru3d.com

Crysis didn't even pull off DX10 running faster than DX9. I don't think UBIsoft (and a PC port at that) would be able to pull this off. Unless they plan on removing 90% of the graphical effects from DX10 (so it looks worse than dx9).

Developers are the new politicians. I assure you this will be nothing but a whole lot of sizzle with no steak to back it up.

I'm no longer believing any claims along thee lines coming from Microsoft or from game developers. When a game is released (or a demo or a beta) and a third party does a benchmark comparison on their systems, then I'll start believing it.

His statement is so heavily qualified it's sad: "...it will be possible for the drivers to make optimizations making the game faster without any change to the game engine..." It's "possible", it's not running faster today. And it's up to the people coding the "drivers" not the game or DirectX to make it happen.

If I had to bet a million dollars on this... i'd bet that DX9 will perform better than DX10. Crytek/Nvidia said the same thing about Crysis and just look how that mess turned out :roll:

I'll believe it when I see the benchies.

What a ****ty ****ing pile of bat vomit.

Knowing how horriblly Assassin's Creed would run under Vista is one of the main reasons I switched to back to XP.

I'm no longer believing any claims along thee lines coming from Microsoft or from game developers. When a game is released (or a demo or a beta) and a third party does a benchmark comparison on their systems, then I'll start believing it.

His statement is so heavily qualified it's sad: "...it will be possible for the drivers to make optimizations making the game faster without any change to the game engine..." It's "possible", it's not running faster today. And it's up to the people coding the "drivers" not the game or DirectX to make it happen.

giantraddish

I was just about to make the same comment about how they skirted around the issue of there being any performance increases NOW. These are all great hopes and dreams, but the sad truth is, the reality of DirectX 10 isn't a pretty one.

Im jsut praying you know 90% XP wll run 10 teimes better than Vista but if the slightest chance givesme the happiness of having a game that turns up the performance on my OS ill be really really happy

Crysis didn't even pull off DX10 running faster than DX9. I don't think UBIsoft (and a PC port at that) would be able to pull this off. Unless they plan on removing 90% of the graphical effects from DX10 (so it looks worse than dx9).

Swiftstrike5

exactly what you said. Ubi is not gona make DX10 run better, especially when its a port.

And here's the second gotcha...

"However, when running on Vista, DirectX 10 version speed will be much faster than its DirectX 9 counterpart (also running on Vista)"

"Also running on Vista" We know games running DX10 on Vista perform worse than games running DX9 on XP. Whether the blame belongs on Vista or DX10 or something else, many gamers will be hesitant to upgrade as long as they percieve significantly better performance on XP/DX9 and little or no visual improvement on Vista/DX10.

Yeah DX10 is wayyyyy overrated. 2 thumbs up to the marketing pulled off by Nvidia/Microsoft.

Don't you fall into the trap.... Microsoft/Nvidia is full of crap!

And here's the second gotcha...

"However, when running on Vista, DirectX 10 version speed will be much faster than its DirectX 9 counterpart (also running on Vista)"

"Also running on Vista" We know games running DX10 on Vista perform worse than games running DX9 on XP. Whether the blame belongs on Vista or DX10 or something else, many gamers will be hesitant to upgrade as long as they percieve significantly better performance on XP/DX9 and little or no visual improvement on Vista/DX10.

giantraddish

What a ****ty ****ing pile of bat vomit.

Knowing how horriblly Assassin's Creed would run under Vista is one of the main reasons I switched to back to XP.

D9-THC

how would you know that? have you played the game? I have, under Vista and it runs super smooth @ 1680x1050 maxed out on a 320mb GTS at ubi.

I'd honestly like to see AC Dx 10 run faster than Dx 9,especially on a $100 HD 2600XT.Indestructible2

[QUOTE="Indestructible2"]I'd honestly like to see AC Dx 10 run faster than Dx 9,especially on a $100 HD 2600XT.Ps2stony

[QUOTE="Ps2stony"][QUOTE="Indestructible2"]I'd honestly like to see AC Dx 10 run faster than Dx 9,especially on a $100 HD 2600XT.Indestructible2

[QUOTE="Indestructible2"][QUOTE="Ps2stony"][QUOTE="Indestructible2"]I'd honestly like to see AC Dx 10 run faster than Dx 9,especially on a $100 HD 2600XT.Ps2stony

[QUOTE="Ps2stony"][QUOTE="Indestructible2"][QUOTE="Ps2stony"][QUOTE="Indestructible2"]I'd honestly like to see AC Dx 10 run faster than Dx 9,especially on a $100 HD 2600XT.Indestructible2

Just kidding!

I didn't delete the file, just made it run like crap.

[QUOTE="Indestructible2"][QUOTE="Ps2stony"][QUOTE="Indestructible2"][QUOTE="Ps2stony"][QUOTE="Indestructible2"]I'd honestly like to see AC Dx 10 run faster than Dx 9,especially on a $100 HD 2600XT.Ps2stony

Just kidding!

I didn't delete the file, just made it run like crap.

Damn! Looks like people don't know how to read, he is clearly stating that DX10 will perform better against DX9 but in VISTA.

I expect to see higher performance in XP.

I knew it. There was major diffrences between DX10 and DX9 which ofcourse I studied when it came out and found my same game was running faster in DX10 then DX9 when everything is at low settings. but at higher settings it became slower. I think DX10 isnt only a increase in visualization but in performance too but hasent been used correctly yet.TrooperManaic

A sound victory for Vista and Dx10 ! :D

Climb onto the wagon!

should be interesting to see how it all pans out, any talk of a demo?stumunro

They already said they can't do a demo