Assassins Creed or The Witcher?

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#1 A1B2C3CAL
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Which should I spend my hard earned money on? Which is better?
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#2 MasterJawa
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Creed, and wait for The Witcher: Enhanced Edition to come out.
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#3 A1B2C3CAL
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AC does look interesting!
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#4 CavalAnts
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But Witcher is much better game. (imo)
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#5 miladesn2
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Creed, and wait for The Witcher: Enhanced Edition to come out.MasterJawa

What he said.

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#6 Creative
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I'd got for Witcher, it will last you way longer and it's very good game.
AC gets boring after few hours of gameplay, the 1st few hours are
jaw-dropping though. Problem with AC is that you keep doing
same thing over and over and over again.
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#7 whitey_rolls
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AC looks great and as was said great a first but the game is super super shallow, the witcher is outstanding. You can get a demo for the witcher try it out see for yourself.
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#8 Qixote
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AC does look interesting!A1B2C3CAL

and that is really all that is positive that can be said about it.

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#9 Baranga
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Buy The Witcher. Everything in the Enhanced Edition will be available as a free update in a month.

AC looks interesting, and that's it. The gameplay sucks big time, the story is interesting but unfolding it is a chore.

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#10 mo0ksi
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I have both and I definately say The Witcher. The story is filled with a lot of decisions in the game that you have to make that alter most of the story, it carries a pretty mature setting and the combat is pretty fun and tactical.

You can't go wrong. Especially with the enhanced edition coming soon.

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#11 Zillaschool
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The witcher is better game.and it has better value.
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#12 LTZH
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taking on 30 gaurds at once with your knife in AC is nothing short of exilirating.
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#13 TheGTAvaccine
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The Witcher.

Assassin's Creed is just a repetitive bore-fest IMO. Got it for Christmas (on 360) and havent even finished it yet; it sits on my shelf collecting dust.

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#14 TanKLoveR
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I havnt played AC just yet, but from what i hear the game is repetitive and not that great. The witcher on the other hand is a really deep rpg with lots of things to do, a fascinating story and a very good combat system that u wont get bored of, AND the enhanced edition is coming this next month for free.
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#15 A1B2C3CAL
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Wow alot of people for and against AC.
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#16 MetallicaKings
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[QUOTE="TanKLoveR"]and a very good combat system that u wont get bored of...Nibroc420



Accually i found it extremely boring and easy... There's 2 useful weapons, and then some stupid weak ass spells... If you're fighing people, use one sword, if you're fighting others use the other one...
I don't understand how thats a "Very good combat system" And in truth it is very boring

I'd go for AC i've played both and the witcher's just lame repetitive stuff with a weak storyline and easy battles.

I think you are getting AC and the witcher mixed up, friend

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#17 Tresca_
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I would say Assassin's Creed. A lot of people put it down and ignore its good points. I'll admit that it can get somewhat repetitive, but when you eventually master the controls it doesn't take that long to get through all the investigations. Other than that, the combat and the free-running aspects make it play unlike anything else. If you have patience you should enjoy it.

If you got The Witcher now and completed it, you might not be in the mood to play it all over again in a months time, when the updates arrive.

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#18 A1B2C3CAL
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I dont have either of them yet.
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#19 Herrick
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To the Thread Kreator: It's a tough choice methinks. The Witcher probably isn't as repetitive as Assassin's Creed. I haven't finished Assassin's Creed yet but so far, the story is much more interesting than that of The Witcher's. I think people really overrate the impact that choices have in The Witcher's story. I was expecting a whole lot more. Combat in The Witcher is unlike anything else before, though it's not as fluid as Assassin's Creed obviously, but it's still good & somewhat strategic.

If you absolutely must have one now, then I'd say go for Assassin's Creed & wait for that special version of The Witcher. There's also a Witcher demo out there in case you didn't know. Check it out when you get the chance. Good luck 8)

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#20 Crzy1
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Can't comment on the PC version of AC, but from the 360 version I'd say you're better off going with The Witcher if you like RPGs. AC is really fun at first, and the "platforming" is really fun at the start, but once you hit the midway point, you'll probably start to get really bored with it. The Witcher is long and has a lot to do, but you may get bored with the combat if you're not playing on the hardest setting.

Hard to really compare them, but The Witcher was a suprise hit for me last year and AC was one of my biggest disappointments, so I may be a little biased. Even without the content patch for The Witcher was a better game that AC in my opinion, but I'd say you should at least download the demo for The Witcher, supposedly contains the prologue and the first chapter, so it should give you a really good feel of the game.

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#21 Crzy1
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Can't comment on the PC version of AC, but from the 360 version I'd say you're better off going with The Witcher if you like RPGs. AC is really fun at first, and the "platforming" is really fun at the start, but once you hit the midway point, you'll probably start to get really bored with it. The Witcher is long and has a lot to do, but you may get bored with the combat if you're not playing on the hardest setting.

Hard to really compare them, but The Witcher was a suprise hit for me last year and AC was one of my biggest disappointments, so I may be a little biased. Even without the content patch The Witcher was a better game that AC in my opinion, but I'd say you should at least download the demo for The Witcher, supposedly contains the prologue and the first chapter, so it should give you a really good feel of the game.

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#22 Rottenberry
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[QUOTE="TanKLoveR"]and a very good combat system that u wont get bored of...Nibroc420



Accually i found it extremely boring and easy... There's 2 useful weapons, and then some stupid weak ass spells... If you're fighing people, use one sword, if you're fighting others use the other one...
I don't understand how thats a "Very good combat system" And in truth it is very boring

I'd go for AC i've played both and the witcher's just lame repetitive stuff with a weak storyline and easy battles.



I actually have to agree. I found the combat system really repetitive and easy. You'd honestly have to be mentally challeneged to be unable to click your mouse at the right time. You just have to equip the silver sword when you see a monster, and the long sword when you see a human, and then click... wait a second... click... wait a second... click... wait a second... click.... wait a second... etc.

AC on the other hand I found had really refreshing combat, with great looking finishing moves. I'm actually playing through AC right now, and although the tasks you have to do are REALLY, REALLY, repetitive (I cannot stress that enough...), the combat, and actual main enemy assassinations are a blast. Although I am starting to find AC's combat rather easy... as after I assassinate the main enemy I don't even bother running anymore and instead just kill all 20 or so enemies gathering around me.

At first I thought AC had a somewhat stupid story, but as the game progresses you actually become a bit interested in whats going on, and I am actually hoping to play more in the modern setting now :P

I never finished Witcher, but I tried really hard, since being Polish myself I had a sense of pride towards the developers, who managed to make a name for themselves despite being a small Polish game company. However, the english was really awkward for me, making it hard at times to take the story seriously, and as I mentioned above, I found the combat awful. The choices you have to make in this game are pretty awesome I find though, and really innovative. The atmosphere is also really gritty and dark, the darkest I've probably seen in a Mideval fantasy RPG. Once I got the swamp though, and had to go around hunting for a bunch of spheres or something, I just gave up on the game, and uninstalled it. I'm currently considering reinstalling it once the Enhanced version comes out though.

So... I suppose you could go for Assassin's Creed right now, and you should probably have enough money to get The Witcher: Enhanced, when it comes out some time in late May or early June.
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#23 Herrick
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...I am starting to find AC's combat rather easy... as after I assassinate the main enemy I don't even bother running anymore and instead just kill all 20 or so enemies gathering around me.Rottenberry

Agreed. Also, you get a ton of health after only a few assassinations & combat gets easier with the unlockable moves. I would have liked it if they didn't give as many DNA Augmentations/health upgrades after every assassination.

On another note, does anyone know if it's possible to get a stealth kill on a main target instead of having to battle the target & 50 soldiers? I think I came pretty close to getting that Mad Doctor, but this dumbass crazy guy kept pushing me which made the guards suspicious of me even though I wasn't doing anything suspicious.

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#24 mrbojangles25
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[QUOTE="A1B2C3CAL"]AC does look interesting!Qixote

and that is really all that is positive that can be said about it.

AC is good on paper but the combat...just...ruins it.

Plus the plot isnt nearly as good as I was hoping it to be. They pretty much jacked the whole concept of genetic memory from Frank Herbert....next thing you know AC2 will have the dude "awakened".

The Witcher is awesome, plain and simple. Enhanced Version? Dunno if its worth waiting for

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#25 mo0ksi
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I just did all of the investigations in the second memory block in AC and I can easily say that it's very, very repetitive. Especially with saving citizens. There's no different way to approach the investigations in the game and its freeroam which makes it even worse. The combat isn't something to wow about too. That also got repetitive and the lackluster AI doesn't help.

The game does have good parts though. I like the NPC reactions to your actions, I know that you learn new moves for the combat so I can't wait for that (hopefully the combat gets better), the story has interest, the game looks pretty stunning, and the acrobatics in the game are superb. But I was expecting a lot more. I was expecting some decent variety.

Again I just finished all of the investigations/side-quests on the second memory block only so my opinion will probably change once I play some more.

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#26 mo0ksi
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I just did all of the investigations in the second memory block in AC and I can easily say that it's very, very repetitive. Especially with saving citizens. There's no different way to approach the investigations in the game and that's pretty bad for a game that has free-roaming abliity. The combat isn't something to wow about too. That also got repetitive and the lackluster AI doesn't help.

The game does have good parts though. I like the NPC reactions to your actions, I know that you learn new moves for the combat so I can't wait for that (hopefully the combat gets better), the story has interest, the game looks pretty stunning, and the acrobatics in the game are superb. But I was expecting a lot more. I was expecting some decent variety.

Again I just finished all of the investigations/side-quests on the second memory block only so my opinion will probably change once I play some more.

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#27 Herrick
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Plus the plot isnt nearly as good as I was hoping it to be. They pretty much jacked the whole concept of genetic memory from Frank Herbert....next thing you know AC2 will have the dude "awakened".

mrbojangles25

You say that they were influenced by Herbert as it it were a bad thing.

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[QUOTE="Rottenberry"]
...I am starting to find AC's combat rather easy... as after I assassinate the main enemy I don't even bother running anymore and instead just kill all 20 or so enemies gathering around me.Herrick

Agreed. Also, you get a ton of health after only a few assassinations & combat gets easier with the unlockable moves. I would have liked it if they didn't give as many DNA Augmentations/health upgrades after every assassination.

On another note, does anyone know if it's possible to get a stealth kill on a main target instead of having to battle the target & 50 soldiers? I think I came pretty close to getting that Mad Doctor, but this dumbass crazy guy kept pushing me which made the guards suspicious of me even though I wasn't doing anything suspicious.

You can kill every target in the game stealthily, if you take the right steps.

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#29 DarkSidexxx
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The Witcher.
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#30 OgreB
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Anything but Assassins Crude...!!!

It's a tie with Hellgate:London as the most repetitive and boring game ever...

And I don't see what everyones crowing about the graphics for....I maxed everything ( full AA and V-sync on) and thought it was kinda ugly...

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#31 kozzy1234
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THE WITCHER!! Hands down....

Assasins Creed = 7.5/10

The WItcher = 9 or 9.5 /10

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[QUOTE="TanKLoveR"]and a very good combat system that u wont get bored of...Nibroc420



Accually i found it extremely boring and easy... There's 2 useful weapons, and then some stupid weak ass spells... If you're fighing people, use one sword, if you're fighting others use the other one...
I don't understand how thats a "Very good combat system" And in truth it is very boring

I'd go for AC i've played both and the witcher's just lame repetitive stuff with a weak storyline and easy battles.

the Witcher isnt a combat-centric game. Yes, it does have a lot of combat, but the bulk of the game consists of really good RPG stuff like dialogue, story, and characters.

The combat isnt great, but its good, and its certainly better than your typical dice-roll RPG stuff if you tend to favor more real-time combat mechanisms.

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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="TanKLoveR"]and a very good combat system that u wont get bored of...mrbojangles25




Accually i found it extremely boring and easy... There's 2 useful weapons, and then some stupid weak ass spells... If you're fighing people, use one sword, if you're fighting others use the other one...
I don't understand how thats a "Very good combat system" And in truth it is very boring

I'd go for AC i've played both and the witcher's just lame repetitive stuff with a weak storyline and easy battles.

the Witcher isnt a combat-centric game. Yes, it does have a lot of combat, but the bulk of the game consists of really good RPG stuff like dialogue, story, and characters.

The combat isnt great, but its good, and its certainly better than your typical dice-roll RPG stuff if you tend to favor more real-time combat mechanisms.



Well, thats what i'm complaining about. The fights happen so much, and it's like "oh, another (insert monster here). Better pull out my silver sword and click on it once or twice.." Nothing exciting there, the attack motions are pretty generic too.

As for a good story.. By the time i got to the point where i was is in the sewers on the second chapter, i had completly forgotten why i was even there. All i knew was i was some guy with a sword, running around killing things. The missions are like "run to point A, the back to point B, then back to point A, then return to point B after dark but before the moon comes up." or something dumb like that, I remember doing a quest that took me an hour just to get to the correct in-game time to collect my reward, which was just something completely pointless that helped me in no way...

Once again, Go with AC. Once you pick up on the controls(they're not hard, but some people have trouble) and the story kicks in, You won't want to stop playing.
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Totally different, but the witcher is vastly better in my opinion. If you have a console, rent assassin's creed.
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="TanKLoveR"]and a very good combat system that u wont get bored of...mrbojangles25




Accually i found it extremely boring and easy... There's 2 useful weapons, and then some stupid weak ass spells... If you're fighing people, use one sword, if you're fighting others use the other one...
I don't understand how thats a "Very good combat system" And in truth it is very boring

I'd go for AC i've played both and the witcher's just lame repetitive stuff with a weak storyline and easy battles.

the Witcher isnt a combat-centric game. Yes, it does have a lot of combat, but the bulk of the game consists of really good RPG stuff like dialogue, story, and characters.

The combat isnt great, but its good, and its certainly better than your typical dice-roll RPG stuff if you tend to favor more real-time combat mechanisms.



No, I highly prefer dice-roll RPG combat than Witcher's dull repetitive 1 second clicks. I watch the exact same moves, over, and over, and over again, and really don't feel as if I'm in control of the blade. It shouldn't even be considered a good combat system. I have played nearly every CRPG to date, they are one of my favourite genres, and I know of tons of combat systems, and The Witcher's is simply dull, boring, and repetetive in the full sense of the meaning.

Yes, the game does have a lot of great things that have been missing from RPG's as of late: The dialogue, the story, the choices. But the thing is, there are a lot of poor translation issues, and some rather awkward voice acting which completely pulled me out of the atmosphere. That is why I am considering getting the Enhanced Version when it arrives, to see if it has been improved at all.

Another thing in which the game failed was in it's variety of side quests. Practically every single one of them were remeniscient to those you find in your standard Korean grind-fest MMORPGs. "Kill X of these and return" "Collect X of these from X monster and return" "Find X and return before dawn" etc etc etc.

In my opinion people have overblown The Witcher's quality as a CRPG WAY out of proportion, and perhaps it is because there hasn't been a quality classic CRPG that we all have grown to love, in years, so at this point people begin to grasp out at anything resembling their beloved classics and hold on to them claiming they are "revolutionary".
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#36 DarKre
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It makes no sense to get Creed now. You would waste money. Witcher is alot cheaper, the enhanced addition is FREE to download in a month. By then, Creed would have dropped in price to buy. So save your money.
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[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="TanKLoveR"]and a very good combat system that u wont get bored of...Rottenberry




Accually i found it extremely boring and easy... There's 2 useful weapons, and then some stupid weak ass spells... If you're fighing people, use one sword, if you're fighting others use the other one...
I don't understand how thats a "Very good combat system" And in truth it is very boring

I'd go for AC i've played both and the witcher's just lame repetitive stuff with a weak storyline and easy battles.

the Witcher isnt a combat-centric game. Yes, it does have a lot of combat, but the bulk of the game consists of really good RPG stuff like dialogue, story, and characters.

The combat isnt great, but its good, and its certainly better than your typical dice-roll RPG stuff if you tend to favor more real-time combat mechanisms.



No, I highly prefer dice-roll RPG combat than Witcher's dull repetitive 1 second clicks. I watch the exact same moves, over, and over, and over again, and really don't feel as if I'm in control of the blade. It shouldn't even be considered a good combat system. I have played nearly every CRPG to date, they are one of my favourite genres, and I know of tons of combat systems, and The Witcher's is simply dull, boring, and repetetive in the full sense of the meaning.

Yes, the game does have a lot of great things that have been missing from RPG's as of late: The dialogue, the story, the choices. But the thing is, there are a lot of poor translation issues, and some rather awkward voice acting which completely pulled me out of the atmosphere. That is why I am considering getting the Enhanced Version when it arrives, to see if it has been improved at all.

Another thing in which the game failed was in it's variety of side quests. Practically every single one of them were remeniscient to those you find in your standard Korean grind-fest MMORPGs. "Kill X of these and return" "Collect X of these from X monster and return" "Find X and return before dawn" etc etc etc.

In my opinion people have overblown The Witcher's quality as a CRPG WAY out of proportion, and perhaps it is because there hasn't been a quality ****c CRPG that we all have grown to love, in years, so at this point people begin to grasp out at anything resembling their beloved ****cs and hold on to them claiming they are "revolutionary".

I felt that Mask of the Betrayer had much better dialogue and story than The Witcher and while the choices might not have been as strong the actual quest design was much better. I feel that the game in general is way underrated while The Witcher is slightly overrated. The main flaws of MotB are engine specific, I would enjoy it much more if it ran on the Infinity Engine or the ToEE engine. It also has something called the spirit meter, which isn't a huge problem unless your IQ is in the double digits and you are used to rest spam or the annoying Aurora habit of it having to play the game for you.

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#38 Rottenberry
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I seriously think Mask of the Betrayer was the best Role Playing experience I've had in a long while.
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#39 fireandcloud
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it seems they're very different games. one's a true rpg. the other's more of a sandbox game, like gta3. if you enjoy rpgs, then go with the witcher. if you enjoy gta3-type games, then go with assassin's creed.

or better yet, just get both. your hard-earned money will be well spent either way, i'd imagine.

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I seriously think Mask of the Betrayer was the best Role Playing experience I've had in a long while.Rottenberry

Aye, too bad for me as I tried replaying it and it crashes on my new computer when I try to leave the burrow.

BTW Have you played Mass Effect?

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#41 Rottenberry
Member since 2004 • 4908 Posts
No, as I don't have an Xbox 360. I am looking forward for its release on the PC however :D :D Why, have you played it? If so, how would you rate it?
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#42 Jd1680a
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The Witcher have a very lengthy storyline and have replay value. It is also only $33 on amazon.com. Assassins Creed isnt a bad game, currently playing it now and have a enjoyable experience. Overall I would get The Witcher first, then if you could want to get Assassins Creed later.
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#43 Mayhem48
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The Witcher, even if you have to wait its not worth buying AC.....it sucks.
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#44 Zaeryn
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I gave up near the end of chapter II while hunting spheres or something, and got really boring... plus I had to kill that bandit dude based on my choices and that was nearly impossible. Maybe I'll start a new file on it later on, just that part I was at sucked so bad. I'd say get The Witcher because the time I was playing was absolutely amazing. You'll love it, just be prepared for the load times... ugh.
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#45 Zaeryn
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The Witcher, even if you have to wait its not worth buying AC.....it sucks.Mayhem48
It is worth buying, it just doesn't last very long.
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#46 X360PS3AMD05
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Witcher, AC is boring i played it on my Ps3.
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#47 Rottenberry
Member since 2004 • 4908 Posts
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/2831-Zero-Punctuation-The-Witcher

There ya' go.
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#48 _Pedro_
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http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/2831-Zero-Punctuation-The-Witcher

There ya' go.Rottenberry

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/4742-Zero-Punctuation-Condemned-2-Bloodshot

hehe, he didn't pass the first level of The Witcher here and makes a funny comment about it too.

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#49 EndersAres
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[QUOTE="Mayhem48"]The Witcher, even if you have to wait its not worth buying AC.....it sucks.Zaeryn
It is worth buying, it just doesn't last very long.

Not really. It's only worth renting. The game would only be worth buying if you wait for the bargain bin.

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#50 Herrick
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You can kill every target in the game stealthily, if you take the right steps.

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Ok. Do the soldiers notice it, like when you stealthly kill a guard harassing a citizen?