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#1 mikeandsaints
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hi i have this gtx 295 and before months i way saying to change my card for to buy direct11 card but i see somethings things and tell me if i do wrong i see that my gtx 295 beats 5870 5850 and 5770 am i right;; ok my card doesnt have direct 11 is true but when i went to see which games will come with direct`11 in the http://en.wikipedia.org and i saw which games will have direct 111 like battleforec aliens and 2 more so itsnt not worth to buy direct 11 card am i right;; for only 4 or 5 games;; so the money will unusells am right;; so the best thing is to wait in 2011 to buy the second generaion when direct11 pc games become more this is my opinion so my gtx 295 will serve me and in 2010;; what you think;; am i right in these things i am saying;; is it worth to buy direct11 card now;; when in the market will be on;ly 6 games ;; is it worth;;;
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#3 mikeandsaints
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but i see somethings things and tell me if i do wrong i see that my gtx 295 beats 5870 5850 and 5770 am i right;; ok my card doesnt have direct 11 is true but when i went to see which games will come with direct`11 in the http://en.wikipedia.org and i saw which games will have direct 111 like battleforec aliens and 2 more so itsnt not worth to buy direct 11 card am i right;; for only 4 or 5 games;; so it it woth to update my gtx 295 in 2010;; yes or no;
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#4 gigatrainer
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I answered that? Keep your GTX295 for now and after a year see if its wise to upgrade or not.
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#5 Too_tight_shoes
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Dont upgrade for atleast another year, you could probably get away with playing every game at the highest settings for a very long time with that GPU. To be honest for someone with a GTX 295 you sure dont seem to do much researching about what you have there :| thats an expensive card! I dont see a question here what so ever its seems as though its another E P**** thread. Well done your pushing 10" the only problem is it wont go up... Masculine!
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#6 Slig0
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Spending that kind of money on learning English might be a better option. But keep your GTX295 for atleast another year and then see if the upgrade is worth it.gigatrainer


Loooooooooooooool!

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#7 Slig0
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Dont upgrade for atleast another year, you could probably get away with playing every game at the highest settings for a very long time with that GPU. To be honest for someone with a GTX 295 you sure dont seem to do much researching about what you have there :| thats an expensive card! I dont see a question here what so ever its seems as though its another E P**** thread. Well done your pushing 10" the only problem is it wont go up... Masculine!Too_tight_shoes

How did your core die? :(

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#8 mikeandsaints
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what you mean;;; when you say;; you could probably get away with playing every game at the highest settings for a very long time with that GPU. To be honest for someone with a GTX 295 you sure dont seem to do much researching about what you have there thats an expensive card! I dont see a question here what so ever its seems as though its another E P**** thread.
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#9 Too_tight_shoes
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[QUOTE="Too_tight_shoes"]Dont upgrade for atleast another year, you could probably get away with playing every game at the highest settings for a very long time with that GPU. To be honest for someone with a GTX 295 you sure dont seem to do much researching about what you have there :| thats an expensive card! I dont see a question here what so ever its seems as though its another E P**** thread. Well done your pushing 10" the only problem is it wont go up... Masculine!Slig0

How did your core die? :(

OCCT's large CPU test it ran for the first 40mins just fine then it crashed, I reset the CMOS booted it up and checked a number of programs and found that I only had 3 working cores I set it back to 2 cores and left it at that since it kept crashing. I guess AMD know what they are doing seeing as though the CPU didn't pass their Quad tests, from now on I cant recommend the CPU for anyone looking to get it unlocked and stable especialy since Im not the only one that its happened ocuk forums have 26 victims of cores failing after heavy CPU benches.
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#10 Slig0
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[QUOTE="Slig0"]

[QUOTE="Too_tight_shoes"]Dont upgrade for atleast another year, you could probably get away with playing every game at the highest settings for a very long time with that GPU. To be honest for someone with a GTX 295 you sure dont seem to do much researching about what you have there :| thats an expensive card! I dont see a question here what so ever its seems as though its another E P**** thread. Well done your pushing 10" the only problem is it wont go up... Masculine!Too_tight_shoes

How did your core die? :(

OCCT's large CPU test it ran for the first 40mins just fine then it crashed, I reset the CMOS booted it up and checked a number of programs and found that I only had 3 working cores I set it back to 2 cores and left it at that since it kept crashing. I guess AMD know what they are doing seeing as though the CPU didn't pass their Quad tests, from now on I cant recommend the CPU for anyone looking to get it unlocked and stable especialy since Im not the only one that its happened ocuk forums have 26 victims of cores failing after heavy CPU benches.

Dude do you think mine would have survived Prime at this frequency and voltage? It crashes in microseconds for cry's sakes! Don't push your CPU with those programs, they are useless at most because I have a stable CPU which only fails in prime and in nothing else.

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#11 Too_tight_shoes
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what you mean;;; when you say;; you could probably get away with playing every game at the highest settings for a very long time with that GPU. To be honest for someone with a GTX 295 you sure dont seem to do much researching about what you have there thats an expensive card! I dont see a question here what so ever its seems as though its another E P**** thread.mikeandsaints
What I meant is pretty obvious. Im tired of people having £400/$500 companants and then having the nerve of asking if they should upgrade, like they dont know what they have and how to use a search engine to find pages after pages of information about how those componants the most powerfull things you could get. Everyone and their mother here knoes its not worth it!

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[QUOTE="mikeandsaints"]what you mean;;; when you say;; you could probably get away with playing every game at the highest settings for a very long time with that GPU. To be honest for someone with a GTX 295 you sure dont seem to do much researching about what you have there thats an expensive card! I dont see a question here what so ever its seems as though its another E P**** thread.Too_tight_shoes

What I meant is pretty obvious. Im tired of people having £400/$500 companants and then having the nerve of asking if they should upgrade, like they dont know what they have and how to use a search engine to find pages after pages of information about how those componants the most powerfull things you could get. Everyone and their mother here knoes its not worth it!

You are forgetting their fathers, brothers, sisters and cousins.
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#13 Too_tight_shoes
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Dude do you think mine would have survived Prime at this frequency and voltage? It crashes in microseconds for cry's sakes! Don't push your CPU with those programs, they are useless at most because I have a stable CPU which only fails in prime and in nothing else.

Slig0

I agree to some degree, seeing as I had the CPU as a quad running for 3 weaks of solid gaming at 3.6Ghz mind you they do help by reasuring you that what you've done is worth it and working.

Also I would like to add that I suffered no frame loss in any game by going from Quad to Dual at 3.8Ghz... kinda obvious :P.

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#14 mikeandsaints
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i want some answers ok i did one questiuon i see that my gtx 295 beats 5870 5850 and 5770 am i right;; ok my card doesnt have direct 11 is true but when i went to see which games will come with direct`11 in the http://en.wikipedia.org and i saw which games will have direct 111 like battleforec aliens and 2 more so itsnt not worth to buy direct 11 card am i right;; for only 4 or 5 games;; so the money will unusells am right;; so the best thing is to wait in 2011 to buy the second generaion when direct11 pc games become more this is my opinion so my gtx 295 will serve me and in 2010;; what you think;; am i right in these things i am saying;; can someone tell me please;
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[QUOTE="mikeandsaints"]i want some answers ok i did one questiuon i see that my gtx 295 beats 5870 5850 and 5770 am i right;; ok my card doesnt have direct 11 is true but when i went to see which games will come with direct`11 in the http://en.wikipedia.org and i saw which games will have direct 111 like battleforec aliens and 2 more so itsnt not worth to buy direct 11 card am i right;; for only 4 or 5 games;; so the money will unusells am right;; so the best thing is to wait in 2011 to buy the second generaion when direct11 pc games become more this is my opinion so my gtx 295 will serve me and in 2010;; what you think;; am i right in these things i am saying;; can someone tell me please;

You have been answered 3 times in this topic. If you are arrogant enough to not see them, then forget about it. If you want to hear it again. Do NOT buy anything till the next year, then see if the upgrade is worthwhile. I still recommend spending the money you have on learning English rather then getting high-end stuff....
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#16 mikeandsaints
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ok
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#17 marcthpro
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that or if you have learn english or Ebay selling lesson you can sell ur 295GTX & GET a 5870x2 lolz but you have so much power that even i my self would just skip on for a year before Get DX11 it not like i think current Dx11 Game Graphic Oblitaring the DX10 Games in Graphic therm before at last Q3

even tough i'm quite impatience to see alien vs predator the new game for DX10 vs D11 it rumoured to use Tessellation & other Gimmick exclusive to Direct 3D 11

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#18 mikeandsaints
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what you mean there you say ******* you have so much power that even i my self would just skip on for a year before Get DX11 it not like i think current Dx11 Game Graphic Oblitaring the DX10 Games in Graphic therm before at last Q3 even tough i'm quite impatience to see alien vs predator the new game for DX10 vs D11 it rumoured to use Tessellation & other *********Gimmick exclusive to Direct 3D 11 for what are you talking about;;
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#19 rock_solid
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[QUOTE="mikeandsaints"]so the best thing is to wait in 2011 to buy the second generaion when direct11 pc games become more this is my opinion so my gtx 295 will serve me and in 2010;; what you think;; am i right in these things i am saying;;

i agree with this. even your gtx 295 is overkill. i say ppl should get a good DX10 card and use it for another year...then get a DX11 card a year from now. by then it should be cheaper to get a good DX11 card and more games will start to use DX11. imo, DX11 cards right now are a total waste of money.
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but i see somethings things and tell me if i do wrong i see that my gtx 295 beats 5870 5850 and 5770 am i right;; ok my card doesnt have direct 11 is true but when i went to see which games will come with direct`11 in the http://en.wikipedia.org and i saw which games will have direct 111 like battleforec aliens and 2 more so itsnt not worth to buy direct 11 card am i right;; for only 4 or 5 games;; so it it woth to update my gtx 295 in 2010;; yes or no;mikeandsaints
Yes the GTX 295 beats anything 5870 and lower, though the 5870x2 will come out soon which for sure will beat the GTX 295 save up.
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This guy is hilarious!
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Me likey Mikey ;;;;;;;;;;) (ok not really, but still gotta love persistance)

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Me likey Mikey ;;;;;;;;;;)

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#25 sentenced83
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omg , you really have lots of money to burn !! this is called consumerism! you'er card is excellent , wait for at least mid 2010

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#26 marcthpro
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poor him with is english he can't even understand what i said i even tough my english isn't perfect and sometime can be a mayhem does of my Zero punctuation :P he should being able to read iv said well he can either sell is 295GTX on ebay.. it a card that may sell after 5-6 month in page of product's and then once he get money back he can buy a 5870x2 if he want that much more power :

If i could sell my 4870x2 at a decent price id get a 5870x2 asap but oh well it still A Excelent Video Card beside i mean it not logic to buy a 295GTX at 500$ then let it Rust in Box like i did with most of my dead pc part product :P

It depend if you sort of rich like 200K income also i know people who really burn money away. there ain't sage. they buy a 3500$ Worth PC and 5 month after they buy 1.200$ Of upgrade and that without sell any of there previous product they just are spare part in case there video card / processor would blowout for few week's until rma

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#27 darx55
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keep you card;;;;;;buy a new when youcant handle games;;;;;;wait untill 2011;;;;;;then buy a direct x 11 card;;;;;;

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#28 sting0109
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Bottom line - DX10 cards have proven test results and benchmarks. The few DX11 cards do not yet have this wealth of data.

Stick with your GTX295 that card is overkill even for many forthcoming games.

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#29 millerlight89
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Marcthepro and this dude in one thread gives me the biggest headache looking at their posts.
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#31 darx55
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You guys are jerks.SinfulPotato

not really,his question was answered about 5 times,and he kept asking the same thing..plus one would expect he'd do his research before buying a $550 card..

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#32 gigatrainer
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You guys are jerks.SinfulPotato
Eh no, He is a jerk.
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#33 mikeandsaints
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ok i undrstand ok i will stick with my gtx 295 ok;; which site is the best for to see with direct pc games comes with direct11;;
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#34 marcthpro
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Wikipedia : direct X11 It should have all offical title on it tough i say there must be a bunch not even announced that is Dx11 for 2010 Because last time i checked in summer it ad only 3 title then 7 and so on
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#35 Slig0
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poor him with is english he can't even understand what i said i even tough my english isn't perfect and sometime can be a mayhem does of my Zero punctuation :P he should being able to read iv said well he can either sell is 295GTX on ebay.. it a card that may sell after 5-6 month in page of product's and then once he get money back he can buy a 5870x2 if he want that much more power :

If i could sell my 4870x2 at a decent price id get a 5870x2 asap but oh well it still A Excelent Video Card beside i mean it not logic to buy a 295GTX at 500$ then let it Rust in Box like i did with most of my dead pc part product :P

It depend if you sort of rich like 200K income also i know people who really burn money away. there ain't sage. they buy a 3500$ Worth PC and 5 month after they buy 1.200$ Of upgrade and that without sell any of there previous product they just are spare part in case there video card / processor would blowout for few week's until rma

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Marc why are your posts ALWAYS long and confusing?! I don't have time to read an essay whenever I get on GS. For example, I recommended a rig or commented on a game, I wait for the response to see what other people will say and I see 1 new reply MARCTHPRO. I know that I am going to have a headache... Aspirin pleeease... JK :)

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#36 marcthpro
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meh I'm working on it but did you understand at very least essential of my post ? i try to use more punctuation to have a easier English to read at last to try to explain my tough. i think & type allot but not always in a pure logic consolidated Therms : so anyway i keep help people as more i can and with lot of detailed info

anyway this guy seem to being lost tough poor him. he sure seem to need more english anyway he keeping is 295GTX i hope he find a way to sell it or that he get a 750-1000W PSU & Buy a Lucid hydra 200's combine it with new ATI / nvidia card Via hydra Lucid 200's if it work as it planned :P they combined a HD4850+260GTX but no FPS result where given only word that say that bioshock was runing good

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#37 Slig0
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meh I'm working on it but did you understand at very least essential of my post ? i try to use more punctuation to have a easier English to read at last to try to explain my tough. i think & type allot but not always in a pure logic consolidated Therms

marcthpro

Yeah, you should use more commas also. But anyway, I clearly posted: JK. I always understand your posts, it's just hard to read them ;).

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#38 marcthpro
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ah good then i made progress at first i was sort of very hard to understand in my first posting era of gamespot 1 year ago lol and i yeah i seen joke but i was wondering if you ad such problems to understand my tough seem not well that good but i do think we went a bit off-topic :P
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#39 mikeandsaints
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so you are telling me to keep my gtx 295 because it will be waste of money to buy ati 5870 or gtx 300 because there will not be a; lof of games with direct11;; am right;; and is better thing is hold my gtx 295 for one year more am i right;; but why the companies ,made these cards with direct 111 earlier that it had to be'''';;;;;;;;; example we ati with direct11 but we will not have a lot of games with direct11 why;; i saw the difference in the new game stalcer when it comes which was in direct 10 and direct 11 and i didnt see a lot of difference in the eye;;; the same thing i was seeing in direct10 and direct11';; the same thing and in the batleforge the same things the companies t think want to spend our money in something which is not very diferent i think
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[QUOTE="mikeandsaints"]so you are telling me to keep my gtx 295 because it will be waste of money to buy ati 5870 or gtx 300 because there will not be a; lof of games with direct11;; am right;; and is better thing is hold my gtx 295 for one year more am i right;; but why the companies ,made these cards with direct 111 earlier that it had to be'''';;;;;;;;; example we ati with direct11 but we will not have a lot of games with direct11 why;; i saw the difference in the new game stalcer when it comes which was in direct 10 and direct 11 and i didnt see a lot of difference in the eye;;; the same thing i was seeing in direct10 and direct11';; the same thing and in the batleforge the same things the companies t think want to spend our money in something which is not very diferent i think

God dammit, atleast you got the part in which you do not have to buy a new GPU. Companies make these new GPU so that they can stay ahead in technologies, it is a cycle. Game devs do not make new games because there is no hardware to run it. Once there is hardware to run it, game devs will start making games for that hardware, you see? It works in a circle.
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but now we dont have a lot of hardware with direct 11 am right;; so for the 2010 will be a lot of games with direct 11;; am i right;; and these ati cards which came now in 1 years will not can handle the newst games with direct 11 am right;l so what is the point;;; od to buy now new card with direct 111;;
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#42 Slig0
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This thread reminds me of another one I saw... One dude trying to get an answer relentlessly for what should he do with his GTX295...

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i am just asking ok;;;
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but now we dont have a lot of hardware with direct 11 am right;; so for the 2010 will be a lot of games with direct 11;; am i right;; and these ati cards which came now in 1 years will not can handle the newst games with direct 11 am right;l so what is the point;;; od to buy now new card with direct 111;;
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No way can this be serious.
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but now we dont have a lot of hardware with direct 11 am right;; so for the 2010 will be a lot of games with direct 11;; am i right;; and these ati cards which came now in 1 years will not can handle the newst games with direct 11 am right;l so what is the point;;; od to buy now new card with direct 111;; this is the last questions ok;;
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#47 gigatrainer
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This thread reminds me of another one I saw... One dude trying to get an answer relentlessly for what should he do with his GTX295...

Slig0
Lol it was the same guy [QUOTE="mikeandsaints"]but now we dont have a lot of hardware with direct 11 am right;; so for the 2010 will be a lot of games with direct 11;; am i right;; and these ati cards which came now in 1 years will not can handle the newst games with direct 11 am right;l so what is the point;;; od to buy now new card with direct 111;; this is the last questions ok;;

There really is no point if you got good hardware for current generation, but they offer good performance for the kind of price(5870 is not much behind GTX295 but is much cheaper).
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#48 mikeandsaints
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so for the 2010 will be a lot of games with direct 11;; am i right;; and these ati cards which came now in 1 years will not can handle the newst games with direct 11 am right;l so what is the point;;; od to buy now new card with direct 111;;
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#49 Slig0
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[QUOTE="Slig0"]

This thread reminds me of another one I saw... One dude trying to get an answer relentlessly for what should he do with his GTX295...

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Lol it was the same guy [QUOTE="mikeandsaints"]but now we dont have a lot of hardware with direct 11 am right;; so for the 2010 will be a lot of games with direct 11;; am i right;; and these ati cards which came now in 1 years will not can handle the newst games with direct 11 am right;l so what is the point;;; od to buy now new card with direct 111;; this is the last questions ok;;

There really is no point if you got good hardware for current generation, but they offer good performance for the kind of price(5870 is not much behind GTX295 but is much cheaper).

Ah, thank you, that sure explains why he has the same behavior and non-stopping questions.
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#50 mikeandsaints
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one question i did is it worth to upgrade in 5870 ;;;; i see it will not a lof games in 2010 so why to upgrade;; is it worth;; can you tell me please;