ati has discovered it too can pull a fast one

heya people ati recently started trotting around a new line of mobile radeon laptop chipsets. labeled the 500v series. well truth be told this line is actually rebranded mobility radeon hd 4000 series chipsets. still dx10, still opengl. 3.1, still the same preformance as the lower end hd 4000 series chipsets.

thought me and the good people at semi-accurate should get that across.

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/05/10/ati-picks-nvidias-bad-habits/

heya people ati recently started trotting around a new line of mobile radeon laptop chipsets. labeled the 500v series. well truth be told this line is actually rebranded mobility radeon hd 4000 series chipsets. still dx10, still opengl. 3.1, still the same preformance as the lower end hd 4000 series chipsets.

thought me and the good people at semi-accurate should get that across.

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/05/10/ati-picks-nvidias-bad-habits/

ionusX

I understand the business reasons for Nvidia and ATI doing this type of thing, but it's inherently evil IMO because it's an attempt at deceiving potential customers. What you end up with are the people like us that research specs and catch on to the rebranding gimmicks, and people that don't know a darn thing so they get fooled. Obviously this type of approach only makes the product line look "fresh" to those people who are being deceived. I don't think it's acceptable in business to actively create a false appearance to gain a monetary advantage. If you have a good product, call it what you're going to call it, and leave the name so that customers know what they're getting. Anything else is dishonest business. Of course there are much worse, less honest things going on in business everyday.. but this is the one that I want to rant about right now:) This type of business is, in the long run, doomed to failure.

When Nvidia do it, everybody is laughing, when ATI do it, its good business strategy. Oh well.GazaAli

thank you,

i was hopeing some one would say it

When Nvidia do it, everybody is laughing, when ATI do it, its good business strategy. Oh well.GazaAli

[QUOTE="GazaAli"]When Nvidia do it, everybody is laughing, when ATI do it, its good business strategy. Oh well.Iantheone

lol so this is the latest excuse, i know its just business they do what they have to and i dont have ill feelings towards them. i will say that a company that deserves my respect should not do this not even once.

but thats just my innocent mind, its a tough world out there

[QUOTE="Iantheone"][QUOTE="GazaAli"]When Nvidia do it, everybody is laughing, when ATI do it, its good business strategy. Oh well.nofriekinlemons

lol so this is the latest excuse, i know its just business they do what they have to and i dont have ill feelings towards them. i will say that a company that deserves my respect should not do this not even once.

but thats just my innocent mind, its a tough world out there

This really bites the average person will have no clue and will think they are buying a new model gpu.

This really bites the average person will have no clue and will think they are buying a new model gpu.

ChiChiMonKilla

You can't really upgrade a laptop GPU without upgrading the entire laptop so I doubt anyone is going to friviously upgrade just because their laptop gets a little outdated (at least I would hope not). The only people this will affect are those who are in the market for a new laptop anyway, and who will opt for a laptop with a 5xxx mobility card instead of a 4xxx one. Unless a companny charges more for the 5xxx laptop instead of simply retiring the older model as usual I really don't see how this is going to be a really big deal.

heya people ati recently started trotting around a new line of mobile radeon laptop chipsets. labeled the 500v series. well truth be told this line is actually rebranded mobility radeon hd 4000 series chipsets. still dx10, still opengl. 3.1, still the same preformance as the lower end hd 4000 series chipsets.

thought me and the good people at semi-accurate should get that across.

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/05/10/ati-picks-nvidias-bad-habits/

[QUOTE="ChiChiMonKilla"]

This really bites the average person will have no clue and will think they are buying a new model gpu.

gameguy6700

You can't really upgrade a laptop GPU without upgrading the entire laptop so I doubt anyone is going to friviously upgrade just because their laptop gets a little outdated (at least I would hope not). The only people this will affect are those who are in the market for a new laptop anyway, and who will opt for a laptop with a 5xxx mobility card instead of a 4xxx one. Unless a companny charges more for the 5xxx laptop instead of simply retiring the older model as usual I really don't see how this is going to be a really big deal.

lol I'd rather stick to Nvidia for notebooks DX10 for notebooks and DX11 for Desktops. Hekynn

Via ExpressCard-to-PCI-Express adapter, I have connected an external ATI Radeon HD 5770 to my Sony Vaio FW-45GJronvalencia

When Nvidia do it, everybody is laughing, when ATI do it, its good business strategy. Oh well.GazaAli

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]Via ExpressCard-to-PCI-Express adapter, I have connected an external ATI Radeon HD 5770 to my Sony Vaio FW-45GJsmc91352

[QUOTE="GazaAli"]When Nvidia do it, everybody is laughing, when ATI do it, its good business strategy. Oh well.ronvalencia

sorry to change topic,hey i too have the vgn fw 45gj.the hd 4650 is ok for now i have overclocked it to 633/815mhz.but that addition of 5770 to the laptop is a interesting one especially seeing that you have done it the model i have.how much does it cost.more details please?

sorry to change topic,hey i too have the vgn fw 45gj.the hd 4650 is ok for now i have overclocked it to 633/815mhz.but that addition of 5770 to the laptop is a interesting one especially seeing that you have done it the model i have.how much does it cost.more details please?

onfire23

I obtained my info from http://forum.notebookreview.com/gaming-software-graphics-cards/418851-diy-vidock-experiences.html

I purchased US$85 PE4H-EC2C adapter solution i.e. it has an extra USB port.

I can use adapter with other desktop PCI-Express cards.

Using GPUTool, I have overclocked my Mobility Radeon HD 4650 to 600Mhz/750Mhz and 550Mhz/800Mhz i.e. the temps are around 61 C to 63 C. I haven't pushed it to 633Mhz/815Mhz. I rarely overclock since I max details Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age at 1280x720p and still playable at 1600x900p.