ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 - Good For Games ?

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#1 NoctisCaelum52
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Is it any good ?

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#2 JigglyWiggly_
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Well, it's not bad, and it can play all games, but don't be expecting to run everything on high.
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#3 cluclap
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Is it any good ?

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You can run everything on high at 720p with a good processor. It's the same card I have.
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#5 cluclap
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[QUOTE="cluclap"][QUOTE="NoctisCaelum52"]

Is it any good ?

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You can run everything on high at 720p with a good processor. It's the same card I have.

who cares about 720p? That's a horrible resolution; especially if you got MS Office programs.

He's playing on a LAPTOP. I play on a desktop at 1600 x 900 max out every game with no AA. And since that is my monitor's highest resolution I see no jaggies and get great performance. Playing at 720p on a laptop won't look bad at all, and his games will run very, very smooth.

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#7 cluclap
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[QUOTE="cluclap"][QUOTE="smc91352"] who cares about 720p? That's a horrible resolution; especially if you got MS Office programs.smc91352
He's playing on a LAPTOP

all laptops use 720p :roll: and I don't think that changes anything.

ok, well if the highest resolution a laptop can go is 1400x900 or 720p why did you say it will look bad? And newer lappies have higher resolutions but they don't have a 4650 in them so I'm sure he is going 720p or 1400x900. I don't see your point in your arguement though, still.
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#9 cluclap
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[QUOTE="cluclap"][QUOTE="smc91352"] all laptops use 720p :roll: and I don't think that changes anything.smc91352
ok, well if the highest resolution a laptop can go is 1400x900 or 720p why did you say it will look bad? And newer lappies have higher resolutions but they don't have a 4650 in them so I'm sure he is going 720p or 1400x900. I don't see your point in your arguement though, still.

who says I have a point? or an argument?

ok then
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#10 JigglyWiggly_
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What are you guys talking about, he is talking about a 4650, you can play 720p on an eee pc, yes an atom processor with a intel intergrated gpu, provided you use coreavc.
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What are you guys talking about, he is talking about a 4650, you can play 720p on an eee pc, yes an atom processor with a intel intergrated gpu, provided you use coreavc.JigglyWiggly_
yeah im kinda confused too, one of them seems to think that running 720p will make games look better, and im not sure what smc is trying to say.
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#12 smc91352
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]What are you guys talking about, he is talking about a 4650, you can play 720p on an eee pc, yes an atom processor with a intel intergrated gpu, provided you use coreavc.ferret-gamer
yeah im kinda confused too, one of them seems to think that running 720p will make games look better, and im not sure what smc is trying to say.

I think she was trying to say that with the gpu, 720p will look well. I was just saying that I don't like 720p; there was no need to pay so much attention to my post.
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]What are you guys talking about, he is talking about a 4650, you can play 720p on an eee pc, yes an atom processor with a intel intergrated gpu, provided you use coreavc.smc91352
yeah im kinda confused too, one of them seems to think that running 720p will make games look better, and im not sure what smc is trying to say.

I think she was trying to say that with the gpu, 720p will look well. I was just saying that I don't like 720p; there was no need to pay so much attention to my post.

720p will look the same regardless of the graphics card.
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]What are you guys talking about, he is talking about a 4650, you can play 720p on an eee pc, yes an atom processor with a intel intergrated gpu, provided you use coreavc.ferret-gamer
yeah im kinda confused too, one of them seems to think that running 720p will make games look better, and im not sure what smc is trying to say.

lol, I was saying that all games will run WELL at 720p and still look nice lol. A 4650 is a good card for now matching the same graphics cards pretty much in consoles, but have a small advantage over them.
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]What are you guys talking about, he is talking about a 4650, you can play 720p on an eee pc, yes an atom processor with a intel intergrated gpu, provided you use coreavc.cluclap
yeah im kinda confused too, one of them seems to think that running 720p will make games look better, and im not sure what smc is trying to say.

lol, I was saying that all games will run WELL at 720p and still look nice lol. A 4650 is a good card for now matching the same graphics cards pretty much in consoles, but have a small advantage over them.

you say you have the desktop version of the card. He has the laptop version. that means it is about half the power of the desktop version. he will be able to play all games but he wont get alot of new games on high.
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#16 cluclap
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[QUOTE="cluclap"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] yeah im kinda confused too, one of them seems to think that running 720p will make games look better, and im not sure what smc is trying to say.ferret-gamer
lol, I was saying that all games will run WELL at 720p and still look nice lol. A 4650 is a good card for now matching the same graphics cards pretty much in consoles, but have a small advantage over them.

you say you have the desktop version of the card. He has the laptop version. that means it is about half the power of the desktop version. he will be able to play all games but he wont get alot of new games on high.

I thought they both were the same power, but the laptop version had a slightly slower clock and tranfer data rate. That's why i mentioned only gaming in 720p or 14 x 9 instead of anything higher. The only game I have trouble with is Batman AA because of Physx problems with ATI cards, the game runs between 15 - 20 fps no matter what the settings are, low or high.
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="cluclap"] lol, I was saying that all games will run WELL at 720p and still look nice lol. A 4650 is a good card for now matching the same graphics cards pretty much in consoles, but have a small advantage over them.cluclap
you say you have the desktop version of the card. He has the laptop version. that means it is about half the power of the desktop version. he will be able to play all games but he wont get alot of new games on high.

I thought they both were the same power, but the laptop version had a slightly slower clock and tranfer data rate. That's why i mentioned only gaming in 720p or 14 x 9 instead of anything higher. The only game I have trouble with is Batman AA because of Physx problems with ATI cards, the game runs between 15 - 20 fps no matter what the settings are, low or high.

no, there is a large difference in the power of mobile vs desktop versions. example: a gtx280m will get 12fps on crysis warhead very high but under the same settings the desktop version will get around 26fps.
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#18 cluclap
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[QUOTE="cluclap"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] you say you have the desktop version of the card. He has the laptop version. that means it is about half the power of the desktop version. he will be able to play all games but he wont get alot of new games on high.ferret-gamer
I thought they both were the same power, but the laptop version had a slightly slower clock and tranfer data rate. That's why i mentioned only gaming in 720p or 14 x 9 instead of anything higher. The only game I have trouble with is Batman AA because of Physx problems with ATI cards, the game runs between 15 - 20 fps no matter what the settings are, low or high.

no, there is a large difference in the power of mobile vs desktop versions. example: a gtx280m will get 12fps on crysis warhead very high but under the same settings the desktop version will get around 26fps.

interesting...
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#19 JigglyWiggly_
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]What are you guys talking about, he is talking about a 4650, you can play 720p on an eee pc, yes an atom processor with a intel intergrated gpu, provided you use coreavc.cluclap
yeah im kinda confused too, one of them seems to think that running 720p will make games look better, and im not sure what smc is trying to say.

lol, I was saying that all games will run WELL at 720p and still look nice lol. A 4650 is a good card for now matching the same graphics cards pretty much in consoles, but have a small advantage over them.

o i c, I thought you were talkin bout movies.
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#20 cluclap
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[QUOTE="cluclap"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] yeah im kinda confused too, one of them seems to think that running 720p will make games look better, and im not sure what smc is trying to say.JigglyWiggly_
lol, I was saying that all games will run WELL at 720p and still look nice lol. A 4650 is a good card for now matching the same graphics cards pretty much in consoles, but have a small advantage over them.

o i c, I thought you were talkin bout movies.

lol
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My friend has that GPU in his laptop. It's fine for most games, and older games like source engine games will run great.

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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="cluclap"] you say you have the desktop version of the card. He has the laptop version. that means it is about half the power of the desktop version. he will be able to play all games but he wont get alot of new games on high.cluclap
I thought they both were the same power, but the laptop version had a slightly slower clock and tranfer data rate. That's why i mentioned only gaming in 720p or 14 x 9 instead of anything higher. The only game I have trouble with is Batman AA because of Physx problems with ATI cards, the game runs between 15 - 20 fps no matter what the settings are, low or high.

no, there is a large difference in the power of mobile vs desktop versions. example: a gtx280m will get 12fps on crysis warhead very high but under the same settings the desktop version will get around 26fps.



This isn't entirely true at all. It's a case by case basis.

ATi's mobile GPUs are directly based on their desktop counterparts, being repackaged for lower power consumption and heat management needed for proper mobile specification. The equivalent Radeon tends to be about ~20% slower than it's desktop counterpart in realtime due to lower clock speeds. It's Nvidia's practice of repackaging GPUs for "new" products that's ultimately confusing for customers. The GTX280M's basic design and configuration originated with the granddaddy of Nvidia's current crop of unified shader GPUs: the 8800GTX, which went on to be reintroduced as the 9800GTX and GTS 250 desktop graphics cards. The most whored out GPU though is probably the desktop 8600 GPU design. It went on to be the basis for the 8600M GT, 8700M GT, desktop 9500, 9500M GS, 9600M GS, 9600M GT and 9650M GT mobile graphics. Their performance is varies greatly due to different types of VRAM used in various makes of laptops. The type of memory automatically limits the memory clock speeds and the difference in performance between a DDR2 VRAM and a GDDR3 equiped 9600M GT for example can be as much as 30% easily.

Most mobile Radeon 4650s have DDR2 VRAM and the 4670s (same GPU die, just higher clocks) typically have either DDR3 or GDDR3 that is clocked a good deal higher than the DDR2 in the 4650. With the 4650 you can definitely see 3DMark06 scores of over 5000 marks, but with the 4670 (remember it's just higher clock speed) expect to hit close to 7000 on stock GPU and memory speeds. The desktop version can hit upwards of 8000 marks..........I would know, I used to have it equiped in my desktop.

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yeah most games medium-high resolution so long as you have adequate ram and fast processor... i have the 9600m gt and can run borderlands 720 at medium and l4d 2 at high tf2 high hl2 high bf2 high crysis at low-medium COH medium

specs: 2.4 ghz 6 gigs ram 9600m gt

the 4650 is better than the 9600 so you should be good just dont expect the best as you would get from 260m gts

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#24 cluclap
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[QUOTE="tutt3r"]

yeah most games medium-high resolution so long as you have adequate ram and fast processor... i have the 9600m gt and can run borderlands 720 at medium and l4d 2 at high tf2 high hl2 high bf2 high crysis at low-medium COH medium

specs: 2.4 ghz 6 gigs ram 9600m gt

the 4650 is better than the 9600 so you should be good just dont expect the best as you would get from 260m gts

Yeah i play at 720p medium settings in crysis and still get great frames. L4d and Resident Evil 5 I just totally max out, 1600 x 900 everything up
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yeah thats a great card.i have that in my laptop and i have it overclocked too.great for playing games as long as you have a decent processor

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#26 cluclap
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yeah thats a great card.i have that in my laptop and i have it overclocked too.great for playing games as long as you have a decent processor

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I haven't had a chance to test but what games can you run in full hd? Or have you tried it?
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#27 onfire23
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i run call of juarez,bound in blood maxed out at 1600.900.for full hd i need to turn down a few settings.anyway the 1600.900 res also looks pretty good.resident evil 5 can run at full hd at medim without lag.borderland at full hd with medium settings.street fighter 4 at full hd at high.i got a big boost from the overclocking though. crysis warhead only runs at 1280.720 and medium-high settings smoothly,which is from 25-30fps.by the way my display has an excellent adaptation for lower resolutions so the difference is not so significant between full hd and 1600.900 res.

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[QUOTE="cluclap"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] you say you have the desktop version of the card. He has the laptop version. that means it is about half the power of the desktop version. he will be able to play all games but he wont get alot of new games on high.ferret-gamer
I thought they both were the same power, but the laptop version had a slightly slower clock and tranfer data rate. That's why i mentioned only gaming in 720p or 14 x 9 instead of anything higher. The only game I have trouble with is Batman AA because of Physx problems with ATI cards, the game runs between 15 - 20 fps no matter what the settings are, low or high.

no, there is a large difference in the power of mobile vs desktop versions. example: a gtx280m will get 12fps on crysis warhead very high but under the same settings the desktop version will get around 26fps.

That's because Nvidia, in their infinite wisdom, decided to just bring out the old G92's and sell them as "GT 200M" chips

The 4650 is essentially similar to the desktop version, albeit with a lower clock rate and a lower power consumption.

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i see alot of fiasco in this topic.
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#30 cluclap
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i run call of juarez,bound in blood maxed out at 1600.900.for full hd i need to turn down a few settings.anyway the 1600.900 res also looks pretty good.resident evil 5 can run at full hd at medim without lag.borderland at full hd with medium settings.street fighter 4 at full hd at high.i got a big boost from the overclocking though. crysis warhead only runs at 1280.720 and medium-high settings smoothly,which is from 25-30fps.by the way my display has an excellent adaptation for lower resolutions so the difference is not so significant between full hd and 1600.900 res.

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Yeah, the highest my display goes is 1600 x 900 and I get great performance at this res for all games, but I wanted to get a full HD set but was just wondering with this card if it's really worth the $200 bucks. Thanks.
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okay my curiousity might be too late to add in, but i was just wondering, will my new laptop run games to a ps3 standard? and is my graphics card compatible with the new DirectX 11? so the question i should be asking is will this computer play games at a ps3 standard and will it be capable of DirectX 11? also, what are some games you would recommend that will be able to run amazingly on this laptop with good graphics like CoD4? no silly answers please
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[QUOTE="cluclap"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] you say you have the desktop version of the card. He has the laptop version. that means it is about half the power of the desktop version. he will be able to play all games but he wont get alot of new games on high.ferret-gamer
I thought they both were the same power, but the laptop version had a slightly slower clock and tranfer data rate. That's why i mentioned only gaming in 720p or 14 x 9 instead of anything higher. The only game I have trouble with is Batman AA because of Physx problems with ATI cards, the game runs between 15 - 20 fps no matter what the settings are, low or high.

no, there is a large difference in the power of mobile vs desktop versions. example: a gtx280m will get 12fps on crysis warhead very high but under the same settings the desktop version will get around 26fps.

I wouldn't say mobile graphics cards are "half the power" more like the processor on mobile devices are often clocked quite a bit slower and generally not as powerful as PCs thus bottlenecking is probably more rampant.

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#33 cluclap
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okay my curiousity might be too late to add in, but i was just wondering, will my new laptop run games to a ps3 standard? and is my graphics card compatible with the new DirectX 11? so the question i should be asking is will this computer play games at a ps3 standard and will it be capable of DirectX 11? also, what are some games you would recommend that will be able to run amazingly on this laptop with good graphics like CoD4? no silly answers pleasehp-dv6-1214ax

Yes it will. No DX 11 though because the card only supports DX10 and the PS3 only supports DX9 anyways. I reccomend getting COD4,5, MW2, and Resident evil 5 to start out with because I can tell you like shooters. Plus you can max these games out easily because they don't require much power.