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#1 not_wanted
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This ain't happening man....this can't be happening man, this isn't happening! :cry: This was one of my most anticipated games this year. :( This is the console version but still wtf? And people were worried about the MP demo. :?

I can't find anything on gameinformer.com about this. Does anyone have the magazine?

link: http://www.pcgames.de/aid,704463/Aliens-vs-Predator-Erste-Printwertung-der-Konsolenversion-faellt-ernuechternd-aus/PC/News/

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#2 charmingcharlie
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Why rely on reviews ? there is a demo available so grab a copy and try it out. I would say that most people have mixed feelings about this game some love it and some hate it. I haven't got much to say on it myself since I am not a big fan of the whole Alien/Predator rubbish.

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#3 Baranga
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I saw scans.

It's a one page review.

It complains that the motion tracker makes noise.

It complains that the Predator is focused on stealth.

It complains about the linearity of the campaign.

It complains that the Alien's ability to walk on ceilings and walls is "confusing".

It says you can't see anything because the flashlight is broken. Hello, flares?

It complains about the "shallow" melee system.

It mentions the multiplayer - the main focus of the game - in only one sentence, and only mentions deathmatch out of the 7 wildly different modes.

And worst of all, it says it's only on 360 and PS3.

Stay calm, this is one of the crappiest reviews ever.

Some quotes from the review:

"Some gamers might appreciate how all three races can go head to head in online deathmatch, but nothing else about multiplayer feels fresh."

"Sound: Listening to aliens crawl through vents and jump out at you would be scary if your motion sensor wasn't constantly bleating in your ear the whole time."

"Worst of all, the Xenomorph's ability to walk on walls makes navigating the world a disorientating affair."

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#4 UnknownElement4
Member since 2008 • 2603 Posts

If you liked the demo, then I am sure you will like the game. Don't rely too much on the reviews, at least wait until you hear what people are saying about it.

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#5 Qixote
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I agree we should wait for more reviews. But then again, it would not surprise me if this game does flop. There has been nothing to indicate that AvP has advanced any since we last saw it 7 years ago, short of some multiplayer enhancements.

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#6 not_wanted
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I saw scans.

It's a one page review.

It complains that the motion tracker makes noise.

It complains that the Predator is focused on stealth.

It complains about the linearity of the campaign.

It complains that the Alien's ability to walk on ceilings and walls is "confusing".

It says you can't see anything because the flashlight is broken. Hello, flares?

It complains about the "shallow" melee system.

It mentions the multiplayer - the main focus of the game - in only one sentence, and only mentions deathmatch out of the 7 wildly different modes.

And worst of all, it says it's only on 360 and PS3.

Stay calm, this is one of the crappiest reviews ever.

Some quotes from the review:

"Some gamers might appreciate how all three races can go head to head in online deathmatch, but nothing else about multiplayer feels fresh."

"Sound: Listening to aliens crawl through vents and jump out at you would be scary if your motion sensor wasn't constantly bleating in your ear the whole time."

"Worst of all, the Xenomorph's ability to walk on walls makes navigating the world a disorientating affair."

Baranga

Wow, it looks like they haven't played the first game, or second. Why else would they complain about these things? ****ing noobs.:x

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The demo was terrible. Basically AvP2 was a LOT more complex and rewarding.

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#8 not_wanted
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If you liked the demo, then I am sure you will like the game. Don't rely too much on the reviews, at least wait until you hear what people are saying about it.

UnknownElement4

I haven't played the demo, but from the vids I've seen it looked fun. I am concerned about the singleplayer campaign.

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#9 Koraboros
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I expected as much. The online melee system is derivative. Spam keys and wait for autoaim. And the 1hit kill system just makes it a button smasher. As for the single player campaign... What is there to say, there are 3 campaigns that they have to do so I expected something very linear with no story or anything. Also, what's the point of your poll if all your choices mean the same thing?
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#10 nocturial
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it sounds like game informer was reviewing the demo? besides the guy that wrote that review obviously missed out previous AVP games... IMO that's one crappy review right there i'm waiting for GS review.

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#11 not_wanted
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I expected as much. The online melee system is derivative. Spam keys and wait for autoaim. And the 1hit kill system just makes it a button smasher. As for the single player campaign... What is there to say, there are 3 campaigns that they have to do so I expected something very linear with no story or anything. Also, what's the point of your poll if all your choices mean the same thing?Koraboros
Well blame the consoles for that.

The poll is just for the lulz.

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#12 andalore
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Is it just me or is that link in German? :P

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#13 SemperFi10
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The game doesn't seem that much fun to me. After watching the video of the demo on Giant Bomb, I wasn't impressed. Looked like a melee fest which, unfortunetly, doesn't seem deep enough to provide lasting value. Only time will tell.

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#14 THA-TODD-BEAST
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5.75 is about right for such a mediocre, simpleton shooter.

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#15 Baranga
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The melee has depth. It's based on combos and timing, and it's built around auto-aim. I hope you haters don't think the lawnmower Xenomorphs circling around Marines from AvP 1 and 2 are better than actually requiring some skill.

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#16 denter21
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5.75 is about right for such a mediocre, simpleton shooter.

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LOL @ Gears of War 10/10
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#17 R4gn4r0k
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Can't say I'm surprised. Rebellion isn't a good developer. Sure they made the first AvP but that was over 10 years ago.

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#18 millerlight89
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I can't believe some of you are taking gameinformer serious.
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#19 Masculus
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I saw scans.

It's a one page review.

It complains that the motion tracker makes noise.

It complains that the Predator is focused on stealth.

It complains about the linearity of the campaign.

It complains that the Alien's ability to walk on ceilings and walls is "confusing".

It says you can't see anything because the flashlight is broken. Hello, flares?

It complains about the "shallow" melee system.

It mentions the multiplayer - the main focus of the game - in only one sentence, and only mentions deathmatch out of the 7 wildly different modes.

And worst of all, it says it's only on 360 and PS3.

Stay calm, this is one of the crappiest reviews ever.

Some quotes from the review:

"Some gamers might appreciate how all three races can go head to head in online deathmatch, but nothing else about multiplayer feels fresh."

"Sound: Listening to aliens crawl through vents and jump out at you would be scary if your motion sensor wasn't constantly bleating in your ear the whole time."

"Worst of all, the Xenomorph's ability to walk on walls makes navigating the world a disorientating affair."

Baranga

Yeah, they completely missed the point of the game. Feels like he's describing the 1st one or the 2nd. I don't expect the game to be as good as the first one but it should be at least average. Feels like that in the game industry, way more than hollywood, you are only as good as your last job; they must have thought "Hmm... they made Rogue Warrior.../ Yeah let's just play the demo and give it a 5!"

By the way the scariest part of playing with the marine was the motion tracker. Knowing your enemies is near but not being able to see him is damn scary.

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#20 Tuzolord
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Well I liked the Demo and I still got it preordered.

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#21 JP_Russell
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That does sound like a pretty poorly done review. However... Rebellion did make Rogue Warrior (not to mention Rogue Trooper before that), so it wouldn't surprise me terribly if AvP really does turn out to be not that great. Or was that done by a separate team within Rebellion?

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#22 Rawtheory333
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I can't believe you liked the demo. IMO its a turd through and through, and it gives us no indication of the final play experience. I pre-ordered the game and I hope I didn't waste my money.

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#23 deactivated-5b5d7639964d6
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That does sound like a pretty poorly done review. However... Rebellion did make Rogue Warrior (not to mention Rogue Trooper before that), so it wouldn't surprise me terribly if AvP really does turn out to be not that great. Or was that done by a separate team within Rebellion?

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It was done by another team which I believe has closed doors recently.
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#24 kevy619
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it looked terrible to me so far, im not surprised that someone else wouldn't like it.

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#25 dakan45
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Yeah ok, how does a mediocre score change the fact that i am gonna like the game because it has a simimilar feeling to avp? I could care less if the critics think its mediocre in graphics, technology and gameplay. The point is to make a good avp game and i dont think by ripping off killzoen 2 or something the game will be a good avp game!
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#26 Gammit10
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Yeah, I've heard the demo was crap too.
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#27 zomglolcats
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Gameinformer sucks. I don't know why anybody takes them seriously.
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#28 Baranga
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That does sound like a pretty poorly done review. However... Rebellion did make Rogue Warrior (not to mention Rogue Trooper before that), so it wouldn't surprise me terribly if AvP really does turn out to be not that great. Or was that done by a separate team within Rebellion?

JP_Russell

What's wrong with Rogue Trooper? It's a very flexible and solid shooter.

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#29 sloakz
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I saw scans.

It's a one page review.

It complains that the motion tracker makes noise.

It complains that the Predator is focused on stealth.

It complains about the linearity of the campaign.

It complains that the Alien's ability to walk on ceilings and walls is "confusing".

It says you can't see anything because the flashlight is broken. Hello, flares?

It complains about the "shallow" melee system.

It mentions the multiplayer - the main focus of the game - in only one sentence, and only mentions deathmatch out of the 7 wildly different modes.

And worst of all, it says it's only on 360 and PS3.

Stay calm, this is one of the crappiest reviews ever.

Some quotes from the review:

"Some gamers might appreciate how all three races can go head to head in online deathmatch, but nothing else about multiplayer feels fresh."

"Sound: Listening to aliens crawl through vents and jump out at you would be scary if your motion sensor wasn't constantly bleating in your ear the whole time."

"Worst of all, the Xenomorph's ability to walk on walls makes navigating the world a disorientating affair."

Baranga

This! I dont think that the Game informer reviewer really gets the whole Alien or Avp thing.

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#30 JP_Russell
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[QUOTE="JP_Russell"]

That does sound like a pretty poorly done review. However... Rebellion did make Rogue Warrior (not to mention Rogue Trooper before that), so it wouldn't surprise me terribly if AvP really does turn out to be not that great. Or was that done by a separate team within Rebellion?

Baranga

What's wrong with Rogue Trooper? It's a very flexible and solid shooter.

I played a few hours of it on Gametap back when the service was still a client and Rogue Trooper was free on there. Some neat ideas, but the game was mundane to me aside from them, and everything about how the game was designed and how it handled felt very clunky to me. Eventually the combat just got too frustrating in spots due to a variety of things for me to care to stick with it, so I stopped playing and uninstalled it. I also disliked everything about the game in other respects - the way it looked, the way it sounded, the writing, etc. - I was merely tolerating everything that wasn't gameplay, so when that stopped being at all interesting there was nothing left for me to like about the game.

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#31 Doom_HellKnight
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I saw scans.

It's a one page review.

It complains that the motion tracker makes noise.

It complains that the Predator is focused on stealth.

It complains about the linearity of the campaign.

It complains that the Alien's ability to walk on ceilings and walls is "confusing".

It says you can't see anything because the flashlight is broken. Hello, flares?

It complains about the "shallow" melee system.

It mentions the multiplayer - the main focus of the game - in only one sentence, and only mentions deathmatch out of the 7 wildly different modes.

And worst of all, it says it's only on 360 and PS3.

Stay calm, this is one of the crappiest reviews ever.

Some quotes from the review:

"Some gamers might appreciate how all three races can go head to head in online deathmatch, but nothing else about multiplayer feels fresh."

"Sound: Listening to aliens crawl through vents and jump out at you would be scary if your motion sensor wasn't constantly bleating in your ear the whole time."

"Worst of all, the Xenomorph's ability to walk on walls makes navigating the world a disorientating affair."

Baranga
This. The reviewer *completely* missed the point...
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#32 zomglolcats
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Gameinformer really is a terrible publication. You know it's a bad magazine when subscriptions are being pawned off at Gamestop. Are they owned by the same company? Whatever the case, complete rubbish.
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#33 DDX2
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Baranga brought up some good points that it was a bad review, but really this game isnt very good. I hate to admit cause I love the Alien and Predator movies, but this isnt as good as AvP 1 and 2

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#34 millerlight89
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Baranga brought up some good points that it was a bad review, but really this game isnt very good. I hate to admit cause I love the Alien and Predator movies, but this isnt as good as AvP 1 and 2

DDX2
Have you played it?
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#35 zomglolcats
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I'm not judging the entire game based on 8 player plain vanilla Death Match using peer to peer match making. I'm waiting for the complete package with dedicated servers.
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#36 THA-TODD-BEAST
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[QUOTE="THA-TODD-BEAST"]

5.75 is about right for such a mediocre, simpleton shooter.

denter21

LOL @ Gears of War 10/10

Gears of War had so much hype behind it, anyone would have given a 10/10. Ditto for Modern Warfare 2.

And both games are a joke.

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#37 Phoenix534
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Don't worry. It's just Ben whining again.

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#38 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="denter21"][QUOTE="THA-TODD-BEAST"]

5.75 is about right for such a mediocre, simpleton shooter.

THA-TODD-BEAST

LOL @ Gears of War 10/10

Gears of War had so much hype behind it, anyone would have given a 10/10. Ditto for Modern Warfare 2.

And both games are a joke.

So, you give a game you call a joke a 10 because it's hyped? That makes sense.

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#39 zomglolcats
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[QUOTE="THA-TODD-BEAST"]

[QUOTE="denter21"] LOL @ Gears of War 10/10Phoenix534

Gears of War had so much hype behind it, anyone would have given a 10/10. Ditto for Modern Warfare 2.

And both games are a joke.

So, you give a game you call a joke a 10 because it's hyped? That makes sense.

No, not anyone would. Just someone who works for a gaming mag and gets paid for a perfect 10.
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#40 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="THA-TODD-BEAST"]

Gears of War had so much hype behind it, anyone would have given a 10/10. Ditto for Modern Warfare 2.

And both games are a joke.

zomglolcats

So, you give a game you call a joke a 10 because it's hyped? That makes sense.

No, not anyone would. Just someone who works for a gaming mag and gets paid for a perfect 10.

I doubt Todd works for a gaming magazine.

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#41 zomglolcats
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[QUOTE="zomglolcats"][QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

So, you give a game you call a joke a 10 because it's hyped? That makes sense.

Phoenix534

No, not anyone would. Just someone who works for a gaming mag and gets paid for a perfect 10.

I doubt Todd works for a gaming magazine.

Oh okay my bad. I thought we were talking about how Game Informer gave it a 10 (I dont remember if they actually did or not).
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#42 RealKilla_789
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i wasn't expecting much. and after playing the demo i had no doubts.

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#43 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="zomglolcats"] No, not anyone would. Just someone who works for a gaming mag and gets paid for a perfect 10.zomglolcats

I doubt Todd works for a gaming magazine.

Oh okay my bad. I thought we were talking about how Game Informer gave it a 10 (I dont remember if they actually did or not).

Oh. No. I guess I could've cleared that up a bit more.

Also, I can't find what score GI gave Gears 1, but they gave Gears 2 a 9.00

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#44 mrbojangles25
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dude...are you really suprised?

this is a cash grab, pure and simple. Theyre capitalizing on the name. Minimal effort was put into this game.

im guessing the metacritic score will be from 65-75

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#45 Rawtheory333
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Well apparently the devs had a lot more time and budget for this title so if it fails it isn't because of a cash in, its because of dev incompetence or mis-management of funds and/or personnel.

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#46 o0squishy0o
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Everything seems so clumsy when you play. The combat system is dodgey. Seriously if they just update the gameplay mechanics from AvP2 it would have been awesome. NOONE can crouch, the jumping is broken. the alien movement is broken as well. No pounce?.

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#47 mrbojangles25
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Well apparently the devs had a lot more time and budget for this title so if it fails it isn't because of a cash in, its because of dev incompetence or mis-management of funds and/or personnel.

Rawtheory333

hmm good point.

idunno, I just dont see how developers can fail with such a well-established franchise.

THe gameplay is already made
THe backstory is already made
The characters, races, etc are already made

All you have to do is flesh out a plot (there are tons of good authors out there) strong enough for a shooter, which doesnt need to be that strong, and develop maps and some new NPCs.

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#48 deactivated-5b5d7639964d6
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Everything seems so clumsy when you play. The combat system is dodgey. Seriously if they just update the gameplay mechanics from AvP2 it would have been awesome. NOONE can crouch, the jumping is broken. the alien movement is broken as well. No pounce?.

o0squishy0o
Did you play it for more then 15 seconds? Crouching is not necessary (the alien is always crouching anyway), jumping is not broken and neither is the alien movement, you can pounce.
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#49 V4LENT1NE
Member since 2006 • 12901 Posts
[QUOTE="THA-TODD-BEAST"]

5.75 is about right for such a mediocre, simpleton shooter.

denter21
LOL @ Gears of War 10/10

It got 10/10 for a reason, it was an awesome, polished, rollercoaster beast of a game.
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#50 mrbojangles25
Member since 2005 • 60782 Posts

[QUOTE="o0squishy0o"]

Everything seems so clumsy when you play. The combat system is dodgey. Seriously if they just update the gameplay mechanics from AvP2 it would have been awesome. NOONE can crouch, the jumping is broken. the alien movement is broken as well. No pounce?.

ZuluEcho14

Did you play it for more then 15 seconds? Crouching is not necessary (the alien is always crouching anyway), jumping is not broken and neither is the alien movement, you can pounce.

the problem is that they bound jump and pounce to the same key, and it is kind of annoying. Things were much better when pounce was a separate key.

I imagine this is simply just alienation (no pun intended :P ) of old players, and after one or two hours with the game people will change their mind