AvP worst demo in the history of the internet?

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#1 rzepak
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Finally finished downloading the demo to a game I have been waiting for for so long and what do I see? Matchmaking. Not only that but matchmaking that does not work at all 30min of searching and nothing...not one game not one player. My question is why even release such a train wreck? The devs have said that there will be dedicated servers in the game so why release a demo with a feature hated by most of the PC community? Since I havent had the privilage to play the demo I am forced to think that its due to the game being another lazy console port. Can anyone who has actually played the game prove me wrong?

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#2 denter21
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Unblock it from windows firewall. The demo was fantastic.
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#3 MyopicCanadian
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I too question the idea of releasing this demo. It seems like a poor representation of the final game. And, let's be honest here... deathmatch? Come on. They took the aspect of the game I am LEAST interested in (and I'm sure I'm not the only one here) and turned it into a demo. And it's probably the weakest link of the game. I just don't get it.
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#4 Too_tight_shoes
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It took me around 5mins to get into a game and when I did I lost interest in the game its slow, sluggish, dull with very a very mediocre setting, seems as though this game will go down the same road as Turok did with the current generation of games on the A-AA list with out a doubt.
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#5 Baranga
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Come on, what's up with this hyperbole? I can prove you wrong: the game is awesome, but players need a lot of practice.

It's far from a lazy console port, it runs and controls very well.

This demo is an updated Comic-con build. Implementing dedis would be expensive, would take too much time and would be useless in the long run. There are many examples of demos that cannibalized their parent games too.

Matchmaking is a bit screwed up now. They've updated the demo this morning though. Exit Steam and try again, make it a firewall exception maybe. Sometimes it find a game in a matter of seconds and fills the lobby immediately. There are many people playing it.

The thing about deathmatch is that if players agree, you can also pretend you're playing Mixed Species Deathmatch or Species Deathmatch. I had a few "SDM" games earlier today. It's the most flexible mode.

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#6 Too_tight_shoes
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Come on, what's up with this hyperbole? I can prove you wrong: the game is awesome, but players need a lot of practice.

It's far from a lazy console port, it runs and controls very well.

This demo is an updated Comic-con build. Implementing dedis would be expensive, would take too much time and would be useless in the long run. There are many examples of demos that cannibalized their parent games too.

Matchmaking is a bit screwed up now. They've updated the demo this morning though. Exit Steam and try again, make it a firewall exception maybe. Sometimes it find a game in a matter of seconds and fills the lobby immediately. There are many people playing it.

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I pretty much dominated for several rounds... I still find it very mediocre, maybe the SP will be better but from this demo I am far from impressed.
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#7 Renevent42
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Downloading now, but honestly my interest in the game is waning. And not from the demo reactions, the movies released so far just look...I dunno...off. Especially the marine footage. The gunplay just looks clumsy and unimpressive. Well see though, I'll hold my judgment until I actually play the game.
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#8 denter21
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Also I found turning off vsync helped the menu feel less floaty, dunno how it affected the ingame, but honestly I have no idea what any of you are talking about... I played 5 rounds last night and it was hella fun.
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#9 iRaptor1337
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I'm dowloading it atm , hope it's good :)
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#10 Suikeropowah
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Still havent got chance to play the game as matchmaking system wont let me. Anyways keep in mind people that this is demo, dont make final conclusions about the game from it. Test the real game when its out and then come back :)

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#11 Renevent42
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Well, it's a month away from release right? If so don't expect much to change.
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#12 Baranga
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The demo code is always older, since they need more time to create the build.

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#13 Renevent42
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Regardless, all that will probably change between now and release is bug fixes, maybe some optimization, and some tweaks. The game plays basically how it will play at release. Just checked...it's not even a month it's less than two weeks. The game is pretty much how it will be at launch.
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I loved the demo, I liked how the aliens could jump and climb everywhere. And I particullary enjoyed the kill animations :D
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Finally finished downloading the demo to a game I have been waiting for for so long and what do I see? Matchmaking. Not only that but matchmaking that does not work at all 30min of searching and nothing...not one game not one player. My question is why even release such a train wreck? The devs have said that there will be dedicated servers in the game so why release a demo with a feature hated by most of the PC community? Since I havent had the privilage to play the demo I am forced to think that its due to the game being another lazy console port. Can anyone who has actually played the game prove me wrong?

rzepak

well i have the same problem with finding games sometimes, however i ran it few times and there you go... it worked. Gotta say i hate matchmaking multiplayer BUT this is not the demo of the final product it's even said at the loading screen, THIS DEMO IS BASED ON THE PRE-RELEASE CODE AND DOES NOT REFLECT THE QUALITY OF THE FINAL PRODUCT". Devs used the demo from comic-con (with a few tweeks). I think that guys from Rebellion didn't had the time to make a super-duper-extra-flashy-SP-MP-DX11-badass demo showing all the features cuz they were working at the RELEASE CODE for the retail verion (i know that i'm being very naive atm but... what the hell:P). That's why they simply ported what they had to pc to at least give us SOMETHING. So far i do like the gameplay and i'm still looking forward to it. Cheers xD

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Downloading right now. Looks nice.
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#17 rzepak
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[QUOTE="rzepak"]

Finally finished downloading the demo to a game I have been waiting for for so long and what do I see? Matchmaking. Not only that but matchmaking that does not work at all 30min of searching and nothing...not one game not one player. My question is why even release such a train wreck? The devs have said that there will be dedicated servers in the game so why release a demo with a feature hated by most of the PC community? Since I havent had the privilage to play the demo I am forced to think that its due to the game being another lazy console port. Can anyone who has actually played the game prove me wrong?

nocturial

well i have the same problem with finding games sometimes, however i ran it few times and there you go... it worked. Gotta say i hate matchmaking multiplayer BUT this is not the demo of the final product it's even said at the loading screen, THIS DEMO IS BASED ON THE PRE-RELEASE CODE AND DOES NOT REFLECT THE QUALITY OF THE FINAL PRODUCT". Devs used the demo from comic-con (with a few tweeks). I think that guys from Rebellion didn't had the time to make a super-duper-extra-flashy-SP-MP-DX11-badass demo showing all the features cuz they were working at the RELEASE CODE for the retail verion (i know that i'm being very naive atm but... what the hell:P). That's why they simply ported what they had to pc to at least give us SOMETHING. So far i do like the gameplay and i'm still looking forward to it. Cheers xD

The thing is that a demo is supposed get people to buy the game. A demo should be aimed at the potential customer not the series fan who has already pre-orderd and is just happy he gets to play it a bit early. No demo is better than a bad demo, becouse a bad demo leads to bad word of mouth and thus potentially less players new to the series and less sales.

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#18 denter21
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The thing is that a demo is supposed get people to buy the game. A demo should be aimed at the potential customer not the series fan who has already pre-orderd and is just happy he gets to play it a bit early. No demo is better than a bad demo, becouse a bad demo leads to bad word of mouth and thus potentially less players new to the series and less sales.

rzepak
Have you even played it yet?
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#19 Sgt_Doyle
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I do not understand why everyone is hating on AvP just because of the demo. Now, I am huge Alien and Predator fan seeing the movies like a hundred times and can recite lines. The game is awful at matchmaking, ill give you that but thats an easy fix and might have already been fixed, not sure. But id like to go through some things:

Alien Gameplay:

-It was exactly what i wanted. Its something unique and will be difficult for new players because you can climb everyone. Having played it a couple rounds I am under the impression that its is key to go un-noticed and go the behind kill. Anyway else is just suicide at this point. The mechanic that you have to play like an alien, move on the ceiling like the movies. Blend in with your surrounding and take a player out. The melee attacks when your in front of people are a little underpowered imo. Overall: B+

Marine Gameplay:

-I thought it was great. The sound effect form the pulse rifle was right on the money from the movies. I felt like one of the marines in "Aliens". Always looking around, paranoid as hell, dont know what is going on. Can't find something I dont like about them in this demo. Overall: A

Predator Gameplay:

-Havent played yet but ill get on that

Map: I liked it, I believe it is a taken over ship that the marines were on and I like it. Given its one map I am assuming there will be ones more diverse and maybe some straight from the movies.

One last remark I want to make about he Marine gameplay, the motion sensor beeping when something is in range is genius. This alone freaks me the hell out because I hear a beep and I auto look at that sensor but I dont know if its above me or below me or whatever.

I think the demo is a good start and the game will be even better.

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#20 zomglolcats
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I really do hate match making. I'm having the same problems. I installed the demo this morning and can't get a game to join. Guess I'll try later around peak hours.
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#21 zomglolcats
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[QUOTE="denter21"]Unblock it from windows firewall. The demo was fantastic.

It's not blocked. Just checked in the control panel options. Still can't get a game to connect
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#22 Baranga
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[QUOTE="denter21"]Unblock it from windows firewall. The demo was fantastic.zomglolcats
It's not blocked. Just checked in the control panel options. Still can't get a game to connect

They're working on a fix.

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#23 zomglolcats
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[QUOTE="zomglolcats"][QUOTE="denter21"]Unblock it from windows firewall. The demo was fantastic.Baranga

It's not blocked. Just checked in the control panel options. Still can't get a game to connect

They're working on a fix.

Oh ok. Well that's good to hear.
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#24 denter21
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Odd, I guess my Vista is just block happy when it comes to online stuff.. happened to BFBC2 as well.